Despite Recent Violence, Gun Laws Are Softening(freep the poll)

parade ^ | 6 June, 2009 | Rebecca Webber

[marktwain]

Thirteen killed at an immigration center in New York. Eight at a nursing home in North Carolina. Five in a house in California. These were among the 57 people killed in mass shootings in a 30-day period this spring in the U.S. Meanwhile, new laws are easing restrictions on guns.

Congress recently approved a bill to allow guns in national parks. Tennessee has passed similar measures for its state parks. In South Carolina, a bill under debate would allow weapons on school grounds. Texas may welcome guns into bars. In Montana, a new law requires landlords and hotel owners to allow firearms on their premises.

The bills' supporters say these measures may actually help head off greater violence. "Crime can happen anywhere," says Andrew Arulanandam of the National Rifle Association. "The only thing that can stop a bad person with a gun is a good person with a gun. Law enforcement can't be everywhere, so law-abiding people should have as many options as possible if and when they are attacked."

Should states loosen restrictions on guns? Yes No

View Results Gun-control advocates argue that weakening laws is disastrous. While it wouldn't necessarily lead to more mass shootings, they say, it would almost certainly increase the number of gun-related murders in the U.S. There are currently more than 11,500 each year, and America has one of the world's highest firearm homicide rates. Per capita, our rate is 39 times greater than that of England, 13 times Australia's, and 6 times Canada's.

"We have the equivalent of a Virginia Tech massacre every day in this country. It's just not all in one place," says Daniel Webster of the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research. "It's what happens when a person gets mad and has easy access to a gun. Someone is shot over a game of dice. Had the gun not been in their hands, no one would have died."

— Rebecca Webber

[marktwain]

“Most of my associates were too busy working 60 or 70 hour weeks, taking care of their families, to hang out and shoot craps. If you associate with trash the smell rubs off on you. I really resent being lumped in with people I have nothing in common with.”

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Majority Americans are going back to their roots on “gun control”. They remember the stories of Colonists and Cowboys who had to defend against savages. They are still Christian. For a time, this country was so successful that an elite few were able to convince us that everyone was as inherently peaceful and forgiving as we are among ourselves.

Now we have seen reality outside the wire, and people understand the need for arms.

[JimRed]

Thirteen killed at an immigration center in New York. Eight at a nursing home in North Carolina. Five in a house in California. These were among the 57 people killed in mass shootings in a 30-day period this spring in the U.S.

Of said killings, how many were by individuals duly licensed for concealed carry? ( crickets )

[Pontiac]

I never have liked Parade.

[Pontiac]

Of said killings, how many were by individuals duly licensed for concealed carry? ( crickets )

I think the guy in the immigration center was.

[2111USMC]

89% Yes

11% No

[bornred]

Sub-Saharan Africa has extremely high rates of homicide, as does Mexico. Take the groups from those cultures out of the mix for United States homicide rates, and our rates are right in there with most of Europe.

Is that nature or nurture?

Boys with ‘warrior gene’ likely to join gangs

IQ 80-89 - Below average - This is also the I.Q. range most associated with violence. Most violent crime is committed by males from this range.

Sooner or later, gun control proponents are going to have to acknowledge the fact that "gun violence" is caused by intrinsically violent people. This will undoubtedly cost them many friends on the Left.

[metmom]

Switzerland blows the left’s arguments about guns out of the water.

Criminals will ALWAYS get the guns. All gun laws do is keep them out of the hands of responsible people.

http://www.stephenhalbrook.com/articles/guns-crime-swiss.html

[marktwain]

The left does not acknowledge the concept of intrinsically violent people. They refuse to believe in that reality. When confronted with it, they make excuses or put their hands over their ears and run in circles shouting “I can't hear you! LA LA LA LA LA”.

[TXnMA]

“Yes”: 89%...

[Red in Blue PA]

Thirteen killed at an immigration center in New York. Eight at a nursing home in North Carolina. Five in a house in California

Hmmmm, no mention of any of these events.

http://ccwsaveslives.blogspot.com/

[Red in Blue PA]

Should states loosen restrictions on guns?
Yes 90%

No 10%

[marktwain]

Thanks for all of your support. This is the sort of result that drives the anti-freedom types crazy and gains respect among the politicians.

An internet poll is not scientific, but it does measure political intensity, that quality of numbers times importance, or drive.

Here you have a poll rigged from the start with anti-freedom premises, bias, and assumptions, yet the intensity measure comes out as nine to one against the proposal, and for freedom.

Thank you all. The poll is now at 90% yes!

[Larry Lucido]

Despite torrential rain, umbrella sales are soaring.

[marktwain]

Despite torrential rain, umbrella sales are soaring.

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Nailed it.

[Redcloak]

Been there.
FReeped that.
Got the T-shirt.

[ExSoldier]

As of 7:21pm EDT:

92% Yes

8% No

[joesjane]

As of 2100 CST

93% Yes

7% No

[Tuketu]

Thank you, we have already counted your vote.
Yes 93%
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No 7%
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[SWAMPSNIPER]

I’ve never been that naieve.

[marktwain]

‘Of said killings, how many were by individuals duly licensed for concealed carry? ( crickets )’

I think the guy in the immigration center was.

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No. Wong had a permit from the State of New York to buy and possess pistols, but not to carry them concealed.

Most States do not require a permit to buy a pistol. New York is one of the very few that abuse the Second Amendment this way.