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Plane seats, wing floating in Atlantic
Agence France-Presse via News.com.au ^
| June 07, 2009
Posted on 06/06/2009 5:29:56 PM PDT by george76
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posted on
06/06/2009 5:29:56 PM PDT
by
george76
To: george76
Have they ruled out terrorism, yet? I really haven’t been keeping tabs on this...but am remembering how LONG it took for the doomed flight over Scotland to be tied to terrorism.
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posted on
06/06/2009 5:35:43 PM PDT
by
Diana in Wisconsin
(Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
To: george76
Im surprised that some of Obamas brethren havent claimed credit for this, true or not. ;-)
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posted on
06/06/2009 5:37:03 PM PDT
by
doc1019
(The invitation for salvation always requires an RSVP.)
To: doc1019
If it was terrorism, it could have been proof-of-concept for a bigger plot, in which case the organization wouldn’t claim credit.
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posted on
06/06/2009 5:40:25 PM PDT
by
The_Reader_David
(And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
To: george76
I’m posing this question for the third time: Why don’t they encased the “black boxes” in some type of floatation device?
To: afraidfortherepublic
To: afraidfortherepublic
Because the black boxes (which are actually bright orange), are attached to the plane with a bundle of wires.
Flotation 'case' or not, it goes down with the plane, and stays attached, until someone disconnects it.
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posted on
06/06/2009 5:43:58 PM PDT
by
UCANSEE2
(The Last Boy Scout)
To: Diana in Wisconsin
“Have they ruled out terrorism, yet? I really havent been keeping tabs on this...but am remembering how LONG it took for the doomed flight over Scotland to be tied to terrorism.”
I doubt they’ll admit to it being terrorism, but that is where my bets are.
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posted on
06/06/2009 5:45:49 PM PDT
by
driftdiver
(I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
To: Diana in Wisconsin
Nothing ruled out as far as I know.
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posted on
06/06/2009 5:45:52 PM PDT
by
george76
(Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
To: afraidfortherepublic
The flight data recorders are crash survivable. Therefore, the weigh a lot. Also, they must be secured to a rack or mount in the aircraft. Additionally, they have to be connected to sensors and computers through wire harnesses. How they are currently secured into the aircraft, if the area of said aircraft sinks, the recorders sink with them.
To: afraidfortherepublic
That is new technology, coming on board. We use it on our military aircraft. The industry has resisted due to the high cost and lack of product availablility.
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posted on
06/06/2009 5:50:57 PM PDT
by
gandalftb
(An appeaser feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last......)
To: UCANSEE2; Jet Jaguar
Thanks. I knew someone would know. Perhaps a redesign is in order? Hopefully they will find these. May the passengers and crew R.I.P.
To: afraidfortherepublic
Perhaps a redesign is in order?Post 10 gives more detail.
Post 11 answers your question.
Thanks to both of those posters.
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posted on
06/06/2009 6:02:32 PM PDT
by
UCANSEE2
(The Last Boy Scout)
To: afraidfortherepublic
Why don’t they make the plane out of black box material?
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posted on
06/06/2009 6:08:29 PM PDT
by
Extremely Extreme Extremist
("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
To: george76
Our subs will have no trouble finding the black box if it is pinging and put a GPS tag on it. Recovery will take longer with a deep-diving sub but almost certainly we will recover the important parts of the plane.
My theory is that the speed measuring pitot tubes iced over and auto pilot increased the engine power. Turbulence from the storm cell caused buffeting that overloaded the trim stabilizers and the aircraft lost control. Autopilot switched off by by then the aircraft was in a steep dive, exceeded airframe limits and broke apart.
A new type of control system on board does not allow pilots to over-steer. However when that system is not getting accurate data it can also keep pilots from obtaining control in a spiraling dive.
One of the hazards of fly-by-wire, computers are not good at emergencies. When unusual events layer on one another....the computers may not have a competent software response. How do you program human intuition and doubt? Those are essential for emergency decisions.
Experienced pilots have hunches and a feel for flying that cannot be replaced by computers. But then computers are cheaper, don't unionize, and allow lesser trained and cheaper pilots to be hired.
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posted on
06/06/2009 6:08:39 PM PDT
by
gandalftb
(An appeaser feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last......)
To: Diana in Wisconsin
Have they ruled out terrorism, yet? I really havent been keeping tabs on this...but am remembering how LONG it took for the doomed flight over Scotland to be tied to terrorism. someone would have taken credit for it if it was a terrorist attack, wouldn't they?
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posted on
06/06/2009 6:10:34 PM PDT
by
JohnBrowdie
(http://www.stink-eye.net)
To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Why dont they make the plane out of black box material? Because if they did, it wouldn't get off the ground! (Yes, I know you're just making a joke.)
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posted on
06/06/2009 6:19:02 PM PDT
by
Mr Ramsbotham
("Baldrick, to you the Renaissance was just something that happened to other people, wasn't it?")
To: gandalftb
Our subs will have no trouble finding the black box if it is pinging and put a GPS tag on it. Recovery will take longer with a deep-diving sub but almost certainly we will recover the important parts of the plane. What about the French subs? Why do we have to do it?
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posted on
06/06/2009 6:20:03 PM PDT
by
Mr Ramsbotham
("Baldrick, to you the Renaissance was just something that happened to other people, wasn't it?")
To: Mr Ramsbotham
What about the French subs? Why do we have to do it?Because if you want it done right, you have to do it yourself.
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posted on
06/06/2009 6:23:35 PM PDT
by
Plexi
To: Plexi
Because if you want it done right, you have to do it yourself. It's like the Canadian National Anthem ... O Canada, we stand on guard for thee!
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posted on
06/06/2009 6:27:57 PM PDT
by
Mr Ramsbotham
("Baldrick, to you the Renaissance was just something that happened to other people, wasn't it?")
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