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Schwarzenegger backs state services to immigrants(illegal)
LA Examiner online ^ | Jun 6, 2009 10:20 AM | The Sacramento Bee

Posted on 06/06/2009 7:27:32 PM PDT by Amerigomag

SACRAMENTO, Calif.
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger says he's "happy" illegal immigrants get state services and says they're not to blame for California's $24.3 billion budget gap.

Schwarzenegger, an immigrant himself, says the estimated $4 billion to $5 billion the state spends on illegal immigrants annually is a "small percentage" of the deficit.

The Republican governor told The Sacramento Bee's editorial board on Friday that it's easy to "scapegoat" illegal immigrants. But he says the state's budget has a much deeper spending imbalance.

He noted the federal government requires California to provide emergency health care and education to illegal immigrants. And he says illegal immigrants often help pick the state's crops and construct its buildings.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; austrain; calbudget; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigrationcost; ohgodmakeitstop; schwarzenegger
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Illegal immigrants are a minor part of the our budget problems.
Don't scapegoat illegal aliens.
The feds made me do it.
We need the cheap foreign labor.

If only things were that simple.

The reality is that the consequences of illegal immigration into California since 1960 consume almost 50% of the General Fund expenditures. From public health, to our criminal justice system, to K-12 education and social services, the consequences of illegal Mexican immigration consumes just short of a majority of General Fund expenditures.

1 posted on 06/06/2009 7:27:33 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: Amerigomag

Ok, we’ve got to call them on this. In the first line, they say that we’re talking about services to illegal immigrants. In the next paragraph, they say that Arnold is an immigrant himself.

STOP THE EQUIVALENCE. There is no equivalence between illegals and Arnold legally coming to America years ago. There is no reason for this to be mentioned in the story, as if Arnold is grappling with providing services to people like himself. The illegals are not immigrants like he was.


2 posted on 06/06/2009 7:30:39 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Amerigomag
["Schwarzenegger, an immigrant himself, says the estimated $4 billion to $5 billion the state spends on illegal immigrants annually is a "small percentage" of the deficit."]

I beg to disagree, Governor, but TWENTY PERCENT is HARDLY a "small percentage". That said, the actual cost is probably 3-4 times that which was stated, which would mean that illegal immigrants are likely responsible for ALMOST ALL of the projected deficit. JM2Cents.

3 posted on 06/06/2009 7:34:07 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("I don't call 911" -- Chuck Norris.)
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To: Amerigomag

The first two sentences show how the media conflates this entire issue.

“Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger says he’s “happy” illegal immigrants get state services and says they’re not to blame for California’s $24.3 billion budget gap.”

“Schwarzenegger, an immigrant himself,...”

It is the constant blurring of the lines between legal and illegal by the media.


4 posted on 06/06/2009 7:34:22 PM PDT by cpanter
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To: Amerigomag
Swartzenkennedy is planning on running for Emperor of Azatlan.

He thinks the illegals will vote for him.

The Azatlan illegals will be the white liberals, so they probably will, but he'll still lose.

5 posted on 06/06/2009 7:34:30 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Prowd gaduate of a Calefornica publik skewl.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
And he says illegal immigrants often help pick the state's crops and construct its buildings. This why there is no work for the construction workers who are either citizens or legal residences, it is not a matter of helping constructs its buildings.. it is taking right ful jobs away from tax paying people..
6 posted on 06/06/2009 7:36:45 PM PDT by JoanneSD
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To: Amerigomag

Arnold’s comments are the railroad spikes into CA’s coffin. I don’t think another Republican will be elected Governor for another generation. Other than drafting retired Congressman Duncan Hunter for Governor, I don’t see how CA can survive.


7 posted on 06/06/2009 7:37:43 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: Amerigomag

Dumba&&. Your state is FAILING for God sake.


8 posted on 06/06/2009 7:39:34 PM PDT by autumnraine (Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose- Kris Kristoferrson)
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To: calcowgirl

You were not kidding.

This is what I mean, these people will never support cuts as long as it’s free. Sales tax taxes their illegal parents.


9 posted on 06/06/2009 7:39:52 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Socialist Conservatives: "'Big government is free because tax cuts pay for it'")
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To: cpanter
“Schwarzenegger, an immigrant himself,...” It is the constant blurring of the lines between legal and illegal by the media.

The new defense for property squatters...

You go on vacation for a week or so and find IMMIGRANTS have taken up residence in your home... Sounds logical in the "Brave New World" we live in?

10 posted on 06/06/2009 7:41:51 PM PDT by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: Amerigomag

He is a damm Liar 4-5 Billion !!!!!!!! maybe 10 times that amount.


11 posted on 06/06/2009 7:43:06 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: Amerigomag

Good God can this ass clown just get thrown out of office already. He is a disgrace


12 posted on 06/06/2009 7:43:22 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Amerigomag
The Guvernator is a joke. He recently proposed cutting 5,000 state workers in a futile attempt to balance the CA budget. What most CA citizens don't realize is that his administration has added 55,000 state workers in the last 5 years.
13 posted on 06/06/2009 7:43:27 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
which would mean that illegal immigrants are likely responsible for ALMOST ALL of the projected deficit.

Yep. Plus you have to factor in the illegals in prison, the children of illegals who are using state services, and the illegals working under the table and not giving the state tax revenues.

Here's the thing that's frustrating with Arnold: He had a mandate in 2003 to put a stop to this, he was already a legendary movie star. That's why he was elected. He could have made the case for ending services to illegals in a common-sense way and still kept his moderate credentials. I mean, why give tax dollars to people who are not citizens? Even the idiotic liberals in CA would have understood this and supported him. Maybe the other problems of bureaucracy, envirowackoism, and regular citizens mooching off the system would have existed, but at least the budget deficit would have been much more manageable.

14 posted on 06/06/2009 7:45:54 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: Dilbert San Diego; freekitty; sheik yerbouty; null and void; doug from upland; ALOHA RONNIE; ...

Arnold talks big with other peoples money. It’s not his to give out to illegals. Case closed. Same goes for the schmucks in the CA Assembly. Bleeding heart Liberals have destroyed the State and the country. Makes me ill.


15 posted on 06/06/2009 7:48:22 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Amerigomag

“We need the cheap foreign labor.”
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BS. The latest REAL estimates are $10-$15 BILLION PER YEAR that illegals cost the Taxifornia taxpayers!!!!!

Now, HOW DOES THIS MAKE THEM CHEAP LABOR???? ANSWER THAT ONE ARNIE, YOU LIBERAL IDIOT!!!


16 posted on 06/06/2009 7:51:29 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: Amerigomag
It doesn't really matter.

The next Kalifornia governor, Villaraigosa or Gavin, will give ILLEGALS the farm anyway.

17 posted on 06/06/2009 7:51:33 PM PDT by South40 (Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance. ~Hussein Obama)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
There is no equivalence between illegals and Arnold legally coming to America years ago.

So true.

America wasn't a welfare teat back then.

18 posted on 06/06/2009 7:55:38 PM PDT by Lizavetta (Politicians: When they're not lying, they're stealing.)
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To: Amerigomag
And he says illegal immigrants often help pick the state's crops and construct its buildings.

If I just arrived from Mars I would deduce that the "illegal immigrants" are paid public money for their services in the private sector.

19 posted on 06/06/2009 8:03:21 PM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Arnold “immigrating” is NOT and NEVER HAS BEEN the same thing as people coming here illegally, deliberately bypassing and breaking OUR laws.

It’s just nuts. Mexico beats the living tar out of illegals THEY catch coming into their country, take whatever money they have with them, pack them in buses, and drive them deep back into their home countries. They don’t get to have parades about being vital to Mexico, try to guilt Mexico for being mean, say they have rights to do that, and try to say they ought to be allowed to stay because they have a right to be there.

I say in this one aspect, we ought to treat Mexican illegals (and all the other illegals) like Mexico treats illegals in their country.


20 posted on 06/06/2009 8:22:44 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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