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To: bustinchops
Black culture doesn’t embrace marriage which is why black culture is in the state that it’s in.

While true, it doesn't get at the reason. Although you hint at it. After WW-II, and especially during the 1960s, the welfare state disproportionately "went after" black women. One thing they did was to deny payments to a family with an able bodied man in the house. So they left, kinda sorta, so that their wife or SO could get that welfare check. The woman found out they didn't need the men, beyond getting the babies started. That led to what we have today. Once again, government creates it's own problems to solve.

149 posted on 06/07/2009 7:23:49 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

You’re 100% correct. That’s exactly what happened. Oddly, it was a rat who warned of what it would lead to. Pat Moynihan said this would lead to the demise of the family, crime, worse poverty than ever, and all the attendant ills. He was 100% prescient. “Government” became the husbands and baby daddies, even though the feminazi movement was constantly downgrading and trivializing men and the need for fathers. Obviously there was a need or there would have been no need for a government role in their support.

But I was simply pointing out that black Americans have never had a black president as a role model before, so his image will carry much more weight than other positive black role models (the few that have emerged over the years) and that, therefore, we are better off that zero’s image among black Americans not fit the stereotypical but accurate elements of the largely unsuccessful black culture. I was not addressing the entire sociological/economic background and causation of black culture’s problems. They are what they are NOW, regardless of how it all came about. Going forward, anything that can improve that failed culture and perhaps curtail the bad behaviors (even if it doesn’t - and it won’t - impact/improve all aspects across the board) is a good thing, as I see it. Fewer criminals, fewer bastards, the demise of most filthy rap and fewer asses hanging out with pants slid down to the knees would be an improvement. :)


159 posted on 06/08/2009 1:33:07 AM PDT by bustinchops
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