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Three more bodies recovered from plane crash site
CTV News (Canada) with files from AP ^ | 2009-06-07

Posted on 06/07/2009 7:48:38 AM PDT by Clive

Three more bodies have been recovered from the ocean near where an Air France jet disappeared and is believed to have crashed, the Brazilian military said Sunday.

The news brings the total number of bodies recovered so far to five.

According to Navy Capt. Giucemar Tabosa Cardoso, search crews can see more bodies from the air and are moving ships into position to remove them from the water.

Authorities have been searching for wreckage and survivors of Air France Flight 447 for one week, since the jet went missing late in the evening on May 31.

It was en route from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, to Paris. All 228 people on board are presumed dead.

Brazilian authorities also announced Sunday that they could see two airplane seats and debris with the Air France logo from the air.

The French agency investigating the crash, BEA, said Saturday that airspeed instruments had not been replaced on the plane, despite recommendations to do so by manufacturer Airbus.

However, investigators said it was still too early to confirm if the faulty instruments caused the crash.

Authorities have revealed the plane sent more than 20 messages indicating it was hampered by a number of electrical failures and a loss of cabin pressure.

With files from The Associated Press

(Excerpt) Read more at ctv.ca ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: airfrance; flight447; rescue
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1 posted on 06/07/2009 7:48:38 AM PDT by Clive
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To: Clive

Expected: French authorities cautioning that anything found in the sea is not necessarily from the ill-fated flight.


2 posted on 06/07/2009 7:51:45 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Death to Databases.)
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Praying for a miracle that maybe SOME people did survive, although I know it isn’t likely! :*(

Prayers going up for the families and friends in limbo until all of this settles down. May God comfort them in their grief. :*(


3 posted on 06/07/2009 7:52:25 AM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Yes, I’m curious—what else is happening down there that they find so much debris and assume it is from the plane, but it isn’t?? What other transportation was destroyed, and where there victims as well?

Don’t have my tin foil hat on YET, but nearby and ready to go once more evidence is found by the searchers!


4 posted on 06/07/2009 7:54:28 AM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: pillut48

I think I’m just beginning to expect obfuscation and nonsense from any and all earthly authorities anymore. Straight talk is so out-of-vogue that most people a) don’t know it when they hear it and b) don’t believe if they do.


5 posted on 06/07/2009 7:56:07 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Death to Databases.)
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To: pillut48

The oceans are garbage dumps. It is not unusual to find tons of floating garbage from freighters that dump.


6 posted on 06/07/2009 8:10:09 AM PDT by devane617 (Republicans first strategy should be taking over the MSM. Without it we are doomed.)
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To: pillut48
Yes, I’m curious—what else is happening down there that they find so much debris and assume it is from the plane, but it isn’t?? What other transportation was destroyed, and where there victims as well?

Flotsom and jetsom.

7 posted on 06/07/2009 8:17:41 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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It is not unusual to find tons of floating garbage from freighters that dump.

True.

Yet, the public (greenies) are somehow conveniently unaware this problem exists.

8 posted on 06/07/2009 8:21:09 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Something is up with this crash. The talking heads are trying to affix blame to a malfunctioning airspeed indicator. I find this curious and absolutely BOGUS, They knew how fast they were going via GPS, I have had my Airspeed indicator fail before and we use power settings to estimate Airspeed. I have also been in a 4000 fpm downdraft and updraft, your Altimiter will give you a good idea that something is wrong. Either they broke up in flight because of stress, which is very possible in a Thunderstorm, in which they would have been at manuevering speed before entry. or something more sinister is afoot. needless to say I also have my Tin Foil hat standing by.

Rule #1 We don’t fly through Thunderstorms. Did They???


9 posted on 06/07/2009 8:21:48 AM PDT by eyeamok
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To: Clive

If the bodies are reasonably intact, doesn’t that mean that the plane did not explode it mid air, nor crash full speed into the ocean? I don’t follow many air crashes but it would seem to me that the impact of any crash into the ocean would preclude finding even reasonably intact bodies.


10 posted on 06/07/2009 8:24:18 AM PDT by codercpc
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To: eyeamok

“maneuvering speed” — the speed beyond which trying to control the plane can cause structural damage?


11 posted on 06/07/2009 8:27:18 AM PDT by Tax Government
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You would think that the bodies would be found (if at all) still strapped in the seats.


12 posted on 06/07/2009 8:27:46 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Flotsom and jetsom Would be a great name for a band


13 posted on 06/07/2009 8:32:59 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flotsam_and_Jetsam_(band)


14 posted on 06/07/2009 8:37:07 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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To: eyeamok
Good post. Perhaps someone's political rival was on the plane.

Personally I'm a little leery of anything that goes from Rio to Paris.

Especially in an Airbus.

15 posted on 06/07/2009 8:49:52 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Death to Databases.)
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To: codercpc

And this is gross, but after a week, wouldn’t the fishes and ocean animals have taken care of ANY remains floating around?!


16 posted on 06/07/2009 8:54:52 AM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX --"God help us all, and God help America!!" --my new mantra for the next 4 years)
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To: eyeamok
Rule #1 We don’t fly through Thunderstorms. Did They???

These were high time pilots so it seems unlikely they knowingly flew directly trough a thunderstorm. More likely the Airbus had a design or manufacturing flaw that couldn't handle high levels of turbulence. It likely did not matter what the pilots did or did not do. They are probably not at fault or are to blame.

17 posted on 06/07/2009 9:02:00 AM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: Tax Government
“maneuvering speed” — the speed beyond which trying to control the plane can cause structural damage?

Pretty close. At or below maneuvering speed the aircraft wings will stall before generating so much lift they snap off. The faster an airplane goes, the more lift the wings can generate. At some point they can generate so much sudden and unwanted lift they can't handle it. The violent shaking that comes from turbulence is mostly unwanted lift caused by the wings.

18 posted on 06/07/2009 9:15:32 AM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: eyeamok; the invisib1e hand; Clive
They knew how fast they were going via GPS

That's ground speed. If they had a tail wind, their air speed would be lower.

19 posted on 06/07/2009 9:16:37 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: eyeamok

GPS can provide GROUND SPEED, but not air speed, which is the rate of airflow over the surface of the plane and depends on air currents as well as plane movement. Since air speed creates lift, it is more critical to flight.

And the bodies are surfacing now because of fermentation in the gut generating (gaseous) methane and CO2, causing the bodies to float. If not collected quickly they will sink again very soon.


20 posted on 06/07/2009 9:21:21 AM PDT by MainFrame65 (The US Senate: World's greatest PREVARICATIVE body!.)
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