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To: Pharmboy
They are equating Adaptation with Evolution.

From the standpoint of "the controversy" the biggest issue is: does one kind of animal give rise to another kind of animal? The adaptation seen in this population of guppies does not contribute to that debate.

6 posted on 06/11/2009 11:23:38 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (We are a ruled people, serfs to the Federal Oligarchy -- and the Tree of Liberty thirsts)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Evolution is defined as genetic change over time, sometimes leading to new species, sometimes sub-species, sometimes breeds or races.


11 posted on 06/11/2009 11:26:57 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Who ever thought we would long for the days of the Clinton administration...)
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To: ClearCase_guy

correct. i’ve heard it described also as “microevoltion” or “macroevolution”. The former of course is observable...the latter is not. The former is change within a species or kind, and the latter—complete change of species or kind has not been demonstrated.

but they keep graspin’, don’t they? ;-)


12 posted on 06/11/2009 11:27:58 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm SO glad I no longer belong to the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

‘They are equating Adaptation with Evolution.’

Exactly. Adaptation is not evolution. If the guppies turned into Great Danes, then we’d see an example of evolution. Back to the drawing board...


13 posted on 06/11/2009 11:28:00 AM PDT by joejm65
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To: ClearCase_guy
Evolution: a: the historical development of a biological group (as a race or species) : phylogeny b: a theory that the various types of animals and plants have their origin in other preexisting types and that the distinguishable differences are due to modifications in successive generations ; also : the process described by this theory
14 posted on 06/11/2009 11:28:31 AM PDT by org.whodat ("Way past time for new commodities regulation")
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To: ClearCase_guy

Amen! The fact that one body of water now has more ‘high-predation’ females **MIGHT** be a reflection of changes in the prominence of certain members of the gene pool AND their more successful reproduction, BUT that is NOT evolution.

If this article is about “evolution” then we should conclude that Swedes (dare I say Aryans) — blonde, fair, blue eyes — represent more highly evolved members of the human race than those in geographies and [older] gene populations in equatorial zones.

That of course is preposterous. We are all Homo sapiens sapiens — just like these are all the same species of ‘guppy’.


20 posted on 06/11/2009 11:34:12 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: ClearCase_guy
They are equating Adaptation with Evolution.

This is evolution at work. It is not about creating a new creature, but a more environment oriented species. The fact the female lays less eggs, and has larger babies is an evolution of the DNA that controls the production of eggs. Its a clear change to respond to the environment surrounding it.

Adaptation, on the other hand, doesn't involve changing the basic DNA of a creature, but also works in the circumstances surrounding it. For example: During seasons of heavy snows and lots of moisture, deer have a tendency to have 2-3 foals, during high periods of drought, they tend to have 1 or none.

22 posted on 06/11/2009 11:34:59 AM PDT by Pistolshot (The Soap-box, The Ballot-box, The Jury-box, And The Cartridge-Box ...we are past 2 of them.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I’m seeing that more and more often ... trying to pass adaptation off as macro-evolution. Can’t tell if it’s just an under-educated few or another example of the liberal attempt at word redefinition to suit political purpose.


46 posted on 06/11/2009 12:04:56 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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