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From Darwinism’s earliest days to today, many of the top Darwinist scientists have been Christian. Also, most Christians are Darwinists, and most Darwinists are Christian. And especially within the realm of scientists, the number of Christian Darwinists vastly outnumber the Creationists.


78 posted on 06/13/2009 10:56:51 AM PDT by goodusername
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Also, most Christians are Darwinists, and most Darwinists are Christian.

I'm not so sure about that, that most Christians are Darwinists. Considering the numbers that keep showing up in polls, belief in creation is still ahead of belief in evolution.

And especially within the realm of scientists, the number of Christian Darwinists vastly outnumber the Creationists.

As a movement, Darwinism is atheistic. Darwins own works lend credence to that, as referred to in other posts GGG has posted.

Not all who ascribe to the ToE are atheists, but all atheists are, of necessity, evolutionists.

82 posted on 06/13/2009 11:04:19 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: goodusername

“From Darwinism’s earliest days to today, many of the top Darwinist scientists have been Christian. Also, most Christians are Darwinists, and most Darwinists are Christian. And especially within the realm of scientists, the number of Christian Darwinists vastly outnumber the Creationists.”

I don’t know what the source of this information is, however is not very accurate in the following way. Was the designation of Christian defined, were these scientists Christian through a born again faith in Jesus Christ or were they Christian by heritage. There is quite a bit of difference. If the data you draw this claim from was not properly parsed it would be misleading.


86 posted on 06/13/2009 11:16:05 AM PDT by gscc
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==Also, most Christians are Darwinists, and most Darwinists are Christian.

Maybe in socialist, post-Christian Europe, but certainly not in the United States. And note, these Gallop polls pertain to all Americans. The numbers who believe in biblical creation goes way up if you just count regular church attenders.

Belief system> Creationist view Theistic evolution Naturalistic Evolution

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God created man pretty much in his present form at one time within the last 10,000 years. Man has developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life, but God guided this process, including man's creation. Man has developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life. God had no part in this process.
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88 posted on 06/13/2009 11:19:34 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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Refresh my memory Goodusername. Didn’t you claim to be an atheist on a different thread?

==And especially within the realm of scientists, the number of Christian Darwinists vastly outnumber the Creationists.

That’s because most of them have never even seriously considered the Creation/ID alternative, as the vast majority of scientists who started out Darwinists and then changed their minds will attest to. It should also be noted, that the vast majority of scientists have been brainwashed with Temple of Darwin propaganda from the time they enter grade school all the way until they earn their PhDs. As such, it really shouldn’t be all that much of a surprise that Christians who become scientists take Darwinism for granted. However, when they take it upon themselves to compare Darwinism to Biblical Creation, many scientists conclude that Darwinism is both unbiblical and unscientific. And while their is a wide variety of opinions in ID with respect to God and the Bible, ID scientists also hold that Darwinism is unscientific.

And given the implications of Darwin’s atheist creation myth, it really shouldn’t be surprising that the higher a scientist climbs the ranks of science, the more likely they are to be an atheist:

http://kspark.kaist.ac.kr/jesus/intelligence%20&%20religion.htm

Conversely, those scientists who openly doubt Darwinian evolution, and point to the massive amount of evidence that points to a higher intelligence are generally punished and/or driven from the profession by intolerant Temple of Darwin fanatics:

http://www.slaughterofthedissidents.com/index.php?p=20case_studies


93 posted on 06/13/2009 11:37:19 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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