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To: PreciousLiberty
The reports we are getting 7, 10 degrees F below normal are huge numbers. & and 10 degree temperature drops are way more then I would expect due to decreased sunspot activity. I suspect something else is going on. What I've no idea, perhaps we are seeing (for the first time) some new wrinkle from our Sun? Scary thought!
34 posted on 06/15/2009 5:48:38 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: jpsb

“The reports we are getting 7, 10 degrees F below normal are huge numbers. & and 10 degree temperature drops are way more then I would expect due to decreased sunspot activity.”

Well, remember the global mean is different than regional activity. I think the key things are that the temperature anomalies are to the low side, rather than to the up side. If global warming were happening, you’d expect the reverse.

It’s forecast to be 90 deg. here today, with a “feel” of 99 deg. About right for this time of year. A little cooling would be welcome!

The other thing to remember about all the late snowfall and precipitation is that both snow and clouds reflect a lot of energy back into space...which is a quite chaotic and non-linear effect. Cloud modeling in particular is a weak spot in the climate models:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/06/12/suggestions-of-strong-negative-cloud-feedbacks-in-a-warmer-climate/

That article is pretty technical, but there’s some good meat there. The short version is that in reality rising temperatures trigger more clouds, and negative temperature feedbacks, whereas the alarmist models use a positive feedback model (higher temperatures mean fewer clouds).

If that were the case, of course, it’s hard to see how the Earth returned from higher temperature regimes in the past.


42 posted on 06/15/2009 6:24:15 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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