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Netanyahu's Speech: Trapped at the Top of the Palestinian State Tree
Mahigut Yehudit--The Jewish Leadership Movement ^ | 6/18/'09 | Unattributed (Moshe Feiglin?)

Posted on 06/18/2009 6:30:46 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator

Netanyahu's speech this week achieved a very important purpose. Egypt's reaction to his demand that the "Palestinians" recognize the fact that Israel is a Jewish state made it clear that it, too, do not recognize Israel as such. All the prime ministers who preceded Netanyahu had totally ignored this essential fact. If he would have wanted to, Netanyahu could have ignored it as well. In this respect, Netanyahu has performed a tremendous service for the state of Israel and is deserving of praise. Suddenly, Israelis learned that it is not just the stubborn "Palestinians" who do not recognize the right of the Jewish people to a state in the Land of Israel. It is also the Egyptians - with whom we have "peace." Obama's entire ascent to power and his pressure on Israel, all the hostile speeches and political deterioration are not a price too dear to pay to crack the lie of the "peace process" and its stranglehold on Israeli society.

The rhetoric with which Netanyahu opened his speech was music to most Israeli ears. It is also important. It has been a long time since an Israeli leader has talked about our right to the Land of Israel. The problem is, though, that Netanyahu's rhetoric contradicts the political conclusion at the end of his speech. Actually, Netanyahu used the age-old tactic copyrighted by the Biblical spies. They began their speech by extolling the praises of the Land of Israel. But it was just a ploy to cajole the Children of Israel into accepting a conclusion counter to the praise. Journalist Ari Shavit most precisely summed up Netanyahu's speech in his article in Ha'aretz.: "The rhetoric of the speech was right of center, but the political conclusion was left of center."

On the surface, it seems that Netanyahu has managed to alleviate the pressure on Israel and to duck Obama's arrows. But let us not deceive ourselves. The sighs of relief released by Pinchas Wallerstein and the Yesha Council and the support of Effie Eitam from within the Likud stem from – in the best case scenario – deplorable short-sightedness.

Nothing will remain of Netanyahu's conditions for a Palestinian state, just like nothing remained of the 14 reservations he attached to his vote in favor of the expulsion from Gush Katif. But the basic principle that Netanyahu outlined in his Bar Ilan speech – that there is a Palestinian nation and that the State of Israel recognizes the right of that "nation" to sovereignty in the Land of Israel – will cost us dearly.

Netanyahu scurried up the Palestinian state tree in order to escape from Obama. Right now, it may seem that we can rest a bit at the top of the tree. The columns of black-uniformed settlement destroyers have returned to their bases for a short break. But Obama and the entire world are waiting at the foot of the tree. We have nowhere left to run and the branches of the tree do not provide much cover against the arrows that they will yet shoot our way.

As soon as we accepted the principle of "Palestinian" self-definition, we accepted their basic claim that we are nothing more than foreign conquerors in our own land. True, as Obama and Achmadinijad mentioned in their speeches, we came here from Europe under tragic circumstances. But our suffering does not give us the right to rob another nation of its land. The world will always stand at the side of the just. As soon as we recognized their right to a state, we lost the justice of our claim to Haifa and Jaffa.

Netanyahu's speech will intensify US pressure on Israel. Combined with persistent opposition from Israel's Left, it will likely bring about the end of his government and his political career.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: feiglin; jewishstate; netanyahu; twostatesolution

1 posted on 06/18/2009 6:30:46 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator
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To: Alouette; SJackson; rmlew; Yehuda; Nachum; Ancesthntr; dervish; TorahTrueJew; NativeNewYorker; ...

Ping.


2 posted on 06/18/2009 6:32:51 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ( . . . Vayiqra' Mosheh leHoshe`a Bin-Nun Yehoshu`a.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I think Bibi did what he had to do, and that he did it well.

There are those to the right of Bibi, and that is no surprise.


3 posted on 06/18/2009 6:35:31 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58
I think Bibi did what he had to do, and that he did it well.

There are those to the right of Bibi, and that is no surprise.

Bibi is a secular nationalist. Secular nationalism has no place among the Jewish People.

4 posted on 06/18/2009 6:37:10 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ( . . . Vayiqra' Mosheh leHoshe`a Bin-Nun Yehoshu`a.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Netanyahu's speech will intensify US pressure on Israel. Combined with persistent opposition from Israel's Left, it will likely bring about the end of his government and his political career.

Netanyahu has had the misfortune of being PM, first concurrent with Clinton, and secondly with Obama, two US presidents who did not have Israel's best interest in mind. But his speech did contain the two poison pills: recognizition of Israel as the Jewish state, and the creation of a 'disarmed' Palestinian state.

Don't know the ins and outs of Israeli politics, but he probably did as well as he could have with Obama in the White House. I think the Israelis would be very foolish to be the ones who undercut his efforts.

5 posted on 06/18/2009 7:12:10 AM PDT by Will88
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6 posted on 06/18/2009 7:36:21 AM PDT by SJackson (G-d da*n America, Jeremiah Wright---Don't tell me words don't matter!, Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

The speech may have played well in Israel but it only further highlights that the the “Jewish state” of Israel is not legit and that it’s days of occupation, oppression, and apartheid are numbered.

The One will be hardpressed to respond to the snug given him and America. Settlements and land seizure must stop, the settlements must be razed, and occupied lands returned to an indpendent Arab and Palestinian people—not a neutered fake state under the oppressive thumb of Israel that Netanyahu proposed. Israel is in no position to demand a demilitarized Palestine unless it is willing to part with its own weapons, beginning first with nuclear weapons, then with its cluster bombs and white phosphorus weapons that it so readily uses in war crimes against civilians.

The US and Europe, the two reasons Israel exists in the first place, will backup their demands to end settlements, to end occupation, and to respect the rights of Arabs and Palestinians within and outside Israel’s recognized borders. American interests are for democratic peace in the region. Israel as it is currently constituted and acting offers nothing but trouble for the US. It is not a democracy, not an ally, and not a partner. It is simply a wayward and bloodsoaked state deserving no respect and no more US military or monetary support. No amount of propaganda can change this increasingly clear fact.

We are not Americans first, respective of laws, rights, and religions, not Zionists. The two are not compatible.


7 posted on 06/18/2009 7:51:16 AM PDT by Matthew Weaver (America First.)
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To: Matthew Weaver
Typos are a pain in the ass... This should read: The speech may have played well in Israel but it only further highlights that the the “Jewish state” of Israel is not legit and that it’s days of occupation, oppression, and apartheid are numbered. The One will be hardpressed to not respond to the snug snub given him and America. Settlements and land seizure must stop, the settlements must be razed, and occupied lands returned to an indpendent Arab and Palestinian people—not a neutered fake state under the oppressive thumb of Israel that Netanyahu proposed. Israel is in no position to demand a demilitarized Palestine unless it is willing to part with its own weapons, beginning first with nuclear weapons, then with its cluster bombs and white phosphorus weapons that it so readily uses in war crimes against civilians. The US and Europe, the two reasons Israel exists in the first place, will backup their demands to end settlements, to end occupation, and to respect the rights of Arabs and Palestinians within and outside Israel’s recognized borders. American interests are for democratic peace in the region. Israel as it is currently constituted and acting offers nothing but trouble for the US. It is not a democracy, not an ally, and not a partner. It is simply a wayward and bloodsoaked state deserving no respect and no more US military or monetary support. No amount of propaganda can change this increasingly clear fact. We are not Americans first, respective of laws, rights, and religions, not Zionists. The two are not compatible.
8 posted on 06/18/2009 7:55:05 AM PDT by Matthew Weaver (America First.)
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To: Matthew Weaver
The speech may have played well in Israel but it only further highlights that the the “Jewish state” of Israel is not legit and that it’s days of occupation, oppression, and apartheid are numbered.

It's always nice to find a "palaeo" who is against apartheid!

Israel as it is currently constituted and acting offers nothing but trouble for the US. It is not a democracy, not an ally, and not a partner. It is simply a wayward and bloodsoaked state

You mean bloodsoaked as when the original Commie Zionists invaded "someone else's land" and killed all the "rooted people" (men, women, and children) under that notorious internationalist race-mixing water fluoridating Zionist neocon Joshua son of Nun? He was a nasty fellow, wasn't he?

Some people have no sense of Biblical sentimentalism!

9 posted on 06/18/2009 8:01:32 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ( . . . Vayiqra' Mosheh leHoshe`a Bin-Nun Yehoshu`a.)
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To: Matthew Weaver
Israel is in no position to demand a demilitarized Palestine unless it is willing to part with its own weapons, beginning first with nuclear weapons, then with its cluster bombs and white phosphorus weapons that it so readily uses in war crimes against civilians.

In other words, you are saying that the United States (us) have to do the same when making demands of N. Korea and Iran, huh???

10 posted on 06/18/2009 8:13:47 AM PDT by danamco
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Bibi is a secular nationalist. Secular nationalism has no place among the Jewish People.

Can you explain the logic behind why the majority of American Jews always are voting democRAT against their own interests!!!

Do they remember when FDR sent boatload of fleeing Jews back to Hitler's gas chambers???

11 posted on 06/18/2009 8:18:41 AM PDT by danamco
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To: danamco; Matthew Weaver
Israel is in no position to demand a demilitarized Palestine unless it is willing to part with its own weapons, beginning first with nuclear weapons, then with its cluster bombs and white phosphorus weapons that it so readily uses in war crimes against civilians.

In other words, you are saying that the United States (us) have to do the same when making demands of N. Korea and Iran, huh???

Don't be ridiculous! We and South Korea (and especially the Arabs) represent White Western Chr*stian Civlization and are entitled to kill Commies. The Israelis, however, are the ultimate enemies of Western Man because their One G-d and One Adam concepts uproots autochthonous peoples from their Magical Homelands and makes the entire human race one Rootless Cosmopolitan Whole, which is the goal of Communism (except for Arab Communism, which is good).

Israel and its race-mixing Red G-d must go or else all the nations of man and their various and sundry idols and myths will be discredited!

PS: Remember, the only good Communist is an Arab Communist!

12 posted on 06/18/2009 8:20:53 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ( . . . Vayiqra' Mosheh leHoshe`a Bin-Nun Yehoshu`a.)
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To: danamco

Matthew Weaver has been popping up with his anti-Israel remarks on many of these Israeli threads of late. He sings the same old tune whenever he hops on these threads. My advice, ignore anything he says, as he is an enemy of Israel, not a friend.


13 posted on 06/18/2009 8:23:55 AM PDT by flaglady47 (Obama, a Fascist more than a Socialist, although he's both.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

good one


14 posted on 06/18/2009 8:45:29 AM PDT by dennisw ("stealth tribal warfare" is what the Sotomayor nomination is about)
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To: dennisw
good one

Thanks. Although I should have mentioned what wonderful, democratic, non-oppressive, non-apartheid, and anti-theocratic regimes those wonderful moslems have as well. Not at all like those "blood soaked" Jews and their "money power."

15 posted on 06/18/2009 8:48:59 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ( . . . Vayiqra' Mosheh leHoshe`a Bin-Nun Yehoshu`a.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Moshe Fegelin made a great speech right after 911

http://rnc3.org/misc/lost_war.htm


16 posted on 06/18/2009 8:59:10 AM PDT by dennisw ("stealth tribal warfare" is what the Sotomayor nomination is about)
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To: dennisw
Moshe Fegelin made a great speech right after 911

Thanks. Moshe Feiglin should be PM. Bibi is just another secular politician.

17 posted on 06/18/2009 9:12:27 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ( . . . Vayiqra' Mosheh leHoshe`a Bin-Nun Yehoshu`a.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

To be honest, I don’t care about the Bible. While I am Catholic, I do not care about one religion or another in the realm of politics, America’s foreign policy, and our relations other countries. That the country has had a guilt trip laid on it for over half a century has distorted our foreign policies and damaged our national interests. Enough. The occupation, oppression, and apartheid must end. That it is occuring under the Jewish banner is unfortunate. Calling for it to stop is legit and not, as others write, anti-Semetic.


18 posted on 06/18/2009 10:06:53 AM PDT by Matthew Weaver (America First.)
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To: flaglady47
My advice, ignore anything he says, as he is an enemy of Israel, not a friend.

Plus, NOT a friend of the United States!!!

19 posted on 06/18/2009 10:13:23 AM PDT by danamco
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To: flaglady47

I do not really care if you ignore me or not. I am not an “enemy” of Israel. No, I am an American and I believe that as Americans (you are one, right?) we must hold our allegience to America first and foremost. I’m sick of hearing people push agendas for other countries as being more important that America. Especially when those agendas are detrimental to America.

America is a great country that is a proudly successful democracy. We’ve gotten past Jim Crow, the KKK, and so forth. We helped overturn apartheid in South Africa. Now it is time to end the occupation, oppression, and apartheid in Israel. Especially as it has occured with our blessing and money for so many decades.

Further, as a American, it galls me that Americans support Israel, a nation that has willingly killed as many Americans as any other in the region. It is not our ally, but an abusive relationship we’ve put up with for far too long.

I do not support Obama but I am American first. Before you trash the US for a foreign country, I urge you to consider your allegiences.


20 posted on 06/18/2009 10:14:33 AM PDT by Matthew Weaver (America First.)
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To: Matthew Weaver

“...Israel, a nation that has willingly killed as many Americans as any other in the region.”

I like to see your evidence to support that contention.

“It is not our ally”

Well, you can create your own reality as you wish. However, Israel is an ally.


21 posted on 06/18/2009 10:29:32 AM PDT by rbmillerjr ("We Are All Socialists Now"........not me, not now, not ever)
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To: rbmillerjr

Have you convenient forgotten the USS Liberty that Israel intentially attacked at the loss of, I think, around 130 US sailors?

Ally it is not. If it weren’t for our many billions of dollars and our support at the UN, for example, I really doubt that Israel would give us time of day. They were proxies in the Middle East during the Cold War but that is long past. Today, they offer nothing but headaches.


22 posted on 06/18/2009 10:52:55 AM PDT by Matthew Weaver (America First.)
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To: Matthew Weaver

“USS Liberty that Israel intentially attacked at the loss of, I think, around 130 US sailors?”

I have problems with that incident. Whether it was intentional or not is absolutely up for debate (and let’s not go down that road on this road). Iran has been fomenting terrorism against Israel and the US since the Islamic Rev in 1979. These are purposeful attacks on Americans that are consistent since the Revolution and have killed many Americans including the Beirut bombing for one.

“I really doubt that Israel would give us time of day. They were proxies in the Middle East during the Cold War but that is long past. Today, they offer nothing but headaches.”

That is an opinion. But the facts are that the US and Israel are defacto allies, with like Western cultures being shared....democracy, constitutional government, free markets, Judeo-Christian, enemies and victims of terrorism etc. If you read any Diplomatic History book you’ll find the history of the nations is a positive one with some shared foreign policy goals.

They are clearly our only true ally in an area that is important for economic and political reasons.


23 posted on 06/18/2009 11:04:59 AM PDT by rbmillerjr ("We Are All Socialists Now"........not me, not now, not ever)
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To: rbmillerjr

I was a undergrad and grad student of US history, with focus on US foreign policy. While that was many years ago, I haven’t forgotten what I read, nor have I not been reading since.

I agree, the two nations have been defacto allies. I think this is ending. The Cold War is over, a distant memory. Israel has nothing to offer the US. And, contrary to your suggestion, it is not a democracy and regarding terrorism, its hands are just as bloody as other nations in the region. Finally, shared culture?! Not today. Not recently. We are past segregation. We are definitely not purveyors of apartheid, nor do we occupy, seize, and settle lands, wage ethnic cleansing, and so forth under the banner of a religion. No, we do not share culture or values. At least, for me, these are not values I associate with the US.


24 posted on 06/18/2009 11:23:54 AM PDT by Matthew Weaver (America First.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Isreal is for the west, the first line of defense. As Isreal goes, so does America and the west. It is the carnary sent into the mine shaft.

Geert Wilders sums it up best.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2274463/posts


25 posted on 06/18/2009 12:23:53 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Live Long And Prosper!"-Mr. Spock:)=^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^=)
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To: flaglady47

I have seen that anti-semite’s troll’s writings and it is not worth my time. Just plan drival.


26 posted on 06/18/2009 12:27:06 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Live Long And Prosper!"-Mr. Spock:)=^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^=)
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To: Matthew Weaver

“I was a undergrad and grad student of US history, with focus on US foreign policy.”

Request a refund.

Supporting my statement is your entire second paragraph in your previous post.


27 posted on 06/18/2009 12:30:52 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("We Are All Socialists Now"........not me, not now, not ever)
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To: Matthew Weaver
I do not really care if you ignore me or not. I am not an “enemy” of Israel. No, I am an American and I believe that as Americans (you are one, right?) we must hold our allegience to America first and foremost. I’m sick of hearing people push agendas for other countries as being more important that America. Especially when those agendas are detrimental to America.
Sounds good so far.

America is a great country that is a proudly successful democracy.
No, we are a Constitutional Republic with wide scale sufferage.

e’ve gotten past Jim Crow, the KKK, and so forth. We helped overturn apartheid in South Africa. Now it is time to end the occupation, oppression, and apartheid in Israel. Especially as it has occured with our blessing and money for so many decades.
Big talk from a colonist living on Amerindian land, where the indigenous neolithic peoples live in squalid camps. Your argument just deligitimized America. It seems your liberal agenda is detrimental to America.

Further, as a American, it galls me that Americans support Israel, a nation that has willingly killed as many Americans as any other in the region. It is not our ally, but an abusive relationship we’ve put up with for far too long.
Killed Americans? I don't recall taht happening on purpose. Of course the US has armed and trained those killing Israelis. Who is being abusive here?

28 posted on 06/18/2009 4:59:45 PM PDT by rmlew ( The SAVE and GIVE acts are institutioning Corvee. Where's the outtrage!)
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To: Matthew Weaver
Have you convenient forgotten the USS Liberty that Israel intentially attacked at the loss of, I think, around 130 US sailors?

And you seem to think taht
1. In this middle of a war with 9 Arab countries backed buy the USSR Israel decided to fight America.
2. Israel felt the need to do so, even though it knew it controlled America enough that their would be no retaliation.
The alternative is taht this was a misidentification, you know the type of thing that occurs in war. Except in the minds of the conspiracy set that fantasize about perfect knowledge and see all results as intentional.

. If it weren’t for our many billions of dollars and our support at the UN, for example, I really doubt that Israel would give us time of day
The fact that there are about as many Jews in America as Israel and millions of Christians visit Israel suggests that you are speaking out of your behind.

Today, they offer nothing but headaches.
Today Israel, tomorrow Eruope, in 50 years New Jersey. I suppose you think that Mohammed's call for world conquest ins a Zionist fantasy.

29 posted on 06/18/2009 5:04:32 PM PDT by rmlew ( The SAVE and GIVE acts are institutioning Corvee. Where's the outtrage!)
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To: Matthew Weaver
To be honest, I don’t care about the Bible.

That's very obvious.

While I am Catholic, I do not care about one religion or another in the realm of politics, America’s foreign policy, and our relations other countries. That the country has had a guilt trip laid on it for over half a century has distorted our foreign policies and damaged our national interests. Enough. The occupation, oppression, and apartheid must end. That it is occuring under the Jewish banner is unfortunate. Calling for it to stop is legit and not, as others write, anti-Semetic.

Please forgive me if I find your story hard to believe. You have attacked "Jewish theocracy" (which Israel isn't unfortunately) and Serbs and said you wouldn't want Baptists to run America. Yet you have not said one word about moslem theocracy, moslem oppression, moslem conquest, and moslem apartheid. That appears to be the only monocultural state that doesn't offend you.

You know what I think? I think you're a moslem "theocrat" on this forum practicing "taqqiya" (or whatever it's called). There's no other reason for you to have such a disproportionate focus on Israel in a sea of Arab/moslem oppression.

30 posted on 06/18/2009 5:14:09 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ( . . . Vayiqra' Mosheh leHoshe`a Bin-Nun Yehoshu`a.)
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To: danamco
Can you explain the logic behind why the majority of American Jews always are voting democRAT against their own interests!!!

I have my own theory, but I don't have the time to type it right now. Besides, I've typed it numerous times before.

Do they remember when FDR sent boatload of fleeing Jews back to Hitler's gas chambers???

Obviously not.

31 posted on 06/18/2009 5:15:59 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ( . . . Vayiqra' Mosheh leHoshe`a Bin-Nun Yehoshu`a.)
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To: Matthew Weaver; flaglady47
I do not really care if you ignore me or not. I am not an “enemy” of Israel. No, I am an American and I believe that as Americans (you are one, right?) we must hold our allegience to America first and foremost.

Nope. The first duty of every being in existence is to the Jewish G-d Who created the universe and everything in it. To say that each person's country comes first is a form of henotheism, the idea that there is a different "gxd" and a different "truth" for every country.

Woah. No wonder you don't like Israel. It's "uprooting" your "organic connection" to the "motherland!"

Further, as a American, it galls me that Americans support Israel, a nation that has willingly killed as many Americans as any other in the region.

You're referring to the USS Liberty, right?

I do not support Obama but I am American first.

In other words, you prefer your Jew-haters to be "aryans" but you'll take what you can get, right?

So good to know you're out of the hospital, Mr. Von Brunn!

32 posted on 06/18/2009 5:25:31 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ( . . . Vayiqra' Mosheh leHoshe`a Bin-Nun Yehoshu`a.)
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To: Matthew Weaver
We are definitely not purveyors of apartheid, nor do we occupy, seize, and settle lands, wage ethnic cleansing, and so forth under the banner of a religion.

Are you prepared to return occupied Turtle Island to its indigenous inhabitants?

33 posted on 06/18/2009 5:27:36 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ( . . . Vayiqra' Mosheh leHoshe`a Bin-Nun Yehoshu`a.)
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To: Matthew Weaver

“Further, as a American, it galls me that Americans support Israel, a nation that has willingly killed as many Americans as any other in the region. It is not our ally, but an abusive relationship we’ve put up with for far too long.

I do not support Obama but I am American first. Before you trash the US for a foreign country, I urge you to consider your allegiences.”

My allegiance is to supporting democracies over dictatorships. You obviously choose that dictatorships flourish over democracies. You should love Obama. I believe your viewpoints are detrimental to America. You are too like the man you proclaim to dislike, Obama, when it comes to Israel. I think you have a problem with logic and rational thinking here. And again, I highly recommend that anyone with a rational mind ignore your posts as the rants of a person who can’t differentiate between a democracy and a dictatorship. The words “buzz off” comes to mind.


34 posted on 06/19/2009 1:24:43 AM PDT by flaglady47 (Obama, a Fascist more than a Socialist, although he's both.)
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To: flaglady47

Just another O’Bammy Troll...


35 posted on 06/19/2009 1:49:17 AM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Matthew Weaver
It is not a democracy, not an ally, and not a partner. It is simply a wayward and bloodsoaked state deserving no respect and no more US military or monetary support. No amount of propaganda can change this increasingly clear fact. We are not Americans first, respective of laws, rights, and religions, not Zionists. The two are not compatible.

I beg to differ Sir with you om accounts of your statements. The Israeli state has done much to improve many things we consider American, way too many to list. But first and foremost. They deserve all our respect and support no matter what you think!

I lived in Israel for six weeks each summer from 1992 until 1999. No greater friends have we in the Middle East than Israel. You should be ashamed of the things you say. " G-D blesses those who bless Israel and HE shall curse those who curse them" it is something you should look into in past History, as to what happened to those nations that cursed HIS beloved Israel.

36 posted on 06/19/2009 6:38:15 AM PDT by oswegodeee ((Obama 08'-Pres. of the US--Obama 2012 President of the World) (This is what he wants).)
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To: oswegodeee

“G-D blesses those who bless Israel and HE shall curse those who curse them” it is something you should look into in past History, as to what happened to those nations that cursed HIS beloved Israel.”

Well said. This guy needs cursing at every opportunity we get. He’s a schmuck.


37 posted on 06/19/2009 11:47:41 PM PDT by flaglady47 (Obama, a Fascist more than a Socialist, although he's both.)
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