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Jury rules against Minn. woman in download case
Associated Press ^
| June 18, 2009
| STEVE KARNOWSKI
Posted on 06/18/2009 8:36:30 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: KoRn; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; ...
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posted on
06/18/2009 9:52:42 PM PDT
by
bamahead
(Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
To: OneWingedShark
She was caught sharing songs, i.e. offering them, not downloading them.
22
posted on
06/18/2009 10:17:34 PM PDT
by
iowamark
(certified by Michael Steele as "ugly and incendiary")
To: Ken H
That’s why here in Colorado they impose fines on homeless people with no income and then sentence them to jail for about 10 dollars per day until the fine is paid. Around here sometimes people go to jail for an unpaid fine for jaywalking!
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posted on
06/18/2009 10:46:16 PM PDT
by
LuxMaker
(The Constitution is a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, Thomas J 1819)
To: LuxMaker
The security bureaucracy industry is one of the few growth centers in the new new American economy.
Every year more laws are passed making what was once liberty, illegal. Also what was once a single crime, baloney sliced up into multiple crimes.
All this provides work for Cops, clerks, legal secretary’s, District Attorney’s and staffs, court officers, Defense attorneys, copy repair men, office supplies, jailers, counselors, judges.
All this ‘economic’ activity filters down to the community thought donut shops, bars, car repairs, prison construction.
Frankly, there is no limit on the ‘wealth’ that with more laws and more arrests can be generated.
/sarc
24
posted on
06/18/2009 11:30:15 PM PDT
by
Leisler
("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged."~G.K. Chesterton)
To: KoRn
Well I think this ruling is outrageous it is like you kid going to the store and shop lifting! They don’t through the parents in jail or fine them $25,000! The kid goes to juvenile detention center! No wonder nobody buys CD’s anymore and most of them have copy protection on them!!!!! I don’t buy them haven’t bought any in years!
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posted on
06/18/2009 11:46:10 PM PDT
by
tallyhoe
To: Ken H
...nor excessive fines imposed... Amendment VIII This is not a fine, but a civil award.
26
posted on
06/19/2009 2:56:43 AM PDT
by
Always Right
(Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
To: tallyhoe
"I dont buy them havent bought any in years!"I haven't either.
27
posted on
06/19/2009 4:18:11 AM PDT
by
KoRn
(Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
To: KoRn
Nearly 2 million dollars for 24 songs on your home PC?
Wasn't exactly '24'. She had
1,700 songs on her pc. They just sued over 24.
And 1,700 songs isn't exactly 'for personal use'. She was guilty as hell.
28
posted on
06/19/2009 5:11:18 AM PDT
by
Condor51
(The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
To: iowamark
Well then, that makes the claim that much more outrageous if the DID have the media legally beforehand.
29
posted on
06/19/2009 7:36:59 AM PDT
by
OneWingedShark
(Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
To: Always Right
This is not a fine, but a civil award. Good point.
30
posted on
06/19/2009 8:09:51 AM PDT
by
Ken H
To: tallyhoe
Well I think this ruling is outrageous it is like you kid going to the store and shop lifting! They dont through the parents in jail or fine them $25,000! Except it was $80,000 each!
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posted on
06/19/2009 8:16:59 AM PDT
by
Always Right
(Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
To: Condor51
And 1,700 songs isn't exactly 'for personal use'. She was guilty as hell. Lots of people have iPods with a heck of a lot more songs than that on them.
32
posted on
06/19/2009 8:20:22 AM PDT
by
Always Right
(Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
To: Ken H
Good point. Unfortunately, most civil suits don't have such outrageous criteria. Lots of civil cases might have extra awards of 3 times damages or something. For some reason the music industry has special protection and is about to get thousands times any provable damage. So much for equal protection under the law.
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posted on
06/19/2009 8:22:35 AM PDT
by
Always Right
(Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
To: Free ThinkerNY
i WONDER . . .
did that jury realize they had wholesale authority to rule as they saw fit?
What’s that technically called?
34
posted on
06/19/2009 8:33:35 AM PDT
by
Quix
(POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
To: Quix
I believe that you’re thinking of the term “nullification”.
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posted on
06/19/2009 9:57:08 AM PDT
by
2nd amendment mama
( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
To: 2nd amendment mama
Thanks.
I don’t really recall.
I just understand . . . or think I understand! LOL
that essentially, Juries in our system . . . have more or less overwhelming carte blanche to decide a case and the consequences thereof
but that they are snookered to believe otherwise
????
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posted on
06/19/2009 10:01:54 AM PDT
by
Quix
(POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
To: KoRn
24 songs was a misprint from that article, it was 24 different publishers., 1700+ songs.
To: org.whodat
Ah! That makes more sense.
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posted on
06/19/2009 10:13:26 AM PDT
by
KoRn
(Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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