Posted on 06/22/2009 5:33:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
>>Like I said before, what you are willing to risk for your faith is directly indicative of how much you truly believe in your god-entity.<<
Yup, just what the article talks about.
We have no need to fit into your box.
Now, instead of talking about Christians, how about talking about the article? So far, you have proved it correct.
When Stalin murders for political power, you can’t blame that on atheists who are merely unwilling to believe that a being floating in the sky is there for the well-being of all.
Atheism is not believing in imaginary beings. Full-stop.
Only divine intervention can convince them otherwise.
Christ's command was to love God with all your heart soul and mind and to love your neighbor as yourself. Evangelicals (and Mormons) argue the Great Commission applies to all. Catholics say it's more of an institutional thing noting that the Lord's command was given to the 11 Apostles.
We are all supposed to witness, of course, and none may be ashamed.
And I've noticed on every FR thread concerning atheism, religionists cannot (or choose not) to understand the atheist point of view. Most describe it as something done to spite them and their beliefs, as if we define ourselves solely by being the opposite of what the believers around us profess. Perhaps they have known somebody who was as "in your face" about feeling superior as Dana Carvey's 'Church Lady' was about her particular sect of Christianity.
If it was a choice between only two sides, belief and non-belief, it would be simple. But there are many sets of beliefs, and to those of us who have considered it quite possible that all of the belief systems have been wrong, we feel that we've simply added one to the number of systems of belief that every true believer in a particular sect rejects.
I know it displeases a lot of people here to consider it, but the vast majority of atheists and agnostics really don't care to get vocal or confrontational with it, they really don't give a hoot about your nativity scene or your menorah in a public place, as long as they have the same civil rights that Western societies had formerly granted only to believers. Yes, there clearly are the Michael Newdows and the Madelyn Murray O'Hairs out there, but for every one of them, there are a thousand 'pushers' of the tens of thousands of sects of religious traditions.
Well said.
>>It’s funny that the antitheists (like Islamists) _always_ bring up the Inquisition as “proof” that Christianity is false and evil.<<
Every Christian should listen to stories of the communist countries and what people went through there.
That is modern times.
You are showing tremendous ignorance on this thread.
Believe what?
Now there's a question worth pondering.
If you look at the comments from the believers here, so far, it’s either justifying their hypocrisy, or showering each other with self-pity through calls of persecution, mostly imagined.
Comedy, unintended.
LOL!!!! Right.
Communism and Atheism go hand in hand. Don’t fool yourself.
And again, let’s talk about the article.
Can you please say or do something more than merely indulging yourself in sloganeering? This goes to the others here, as well.
We are truly spoiled, being Christians in America.
(for now)
Seriously?!? I never read that.
*sigh*
I was raised Catholic but left the church back in high school. When I finally reconnected with God, I found another church that I felt more comfortable with.
I never was happy with most of the traditional Protestant Christian attitudes towards the Catholic Church. There's a of misrepresentation and poor attitude. Not having a Protestant upbringing gave me the opportunity to see it from both sides.
There are areas where I disagree with the RCC doctrine, but there are also areas where I think traditional Protestant Christianity is in no position to point fingers.
While I disagree on some doctrinal issues, that does not excuse me to be rude, and I do have the highest regard for the strong stand that the RCC takes on abortion, homosexuality, marriage, and other conservative values, that many of the mainstream Protestant Churches have abandoned in recent years.
No matter how inconvenient it is for you to realise that this is not the case, the truth is that both are unrelated aspects, with vastly differing philosophical positions.
That is every group.
If you are not one of the pushers, you should not be offended.
Now, check out how this thread is against believers. Not defending Atheists.
That’s why the threads run as they do.
And you have faith that God doesn't exist.
Until you have lived in a Communist Country, you really have no clue.
The Apostle Paul, one of the first Missionaries in the Church, did risk everything and did end up executed for his work. But he also wrote back to the Churches to instruct them, and the one thing he did not tell every Christian was to become Missionaries in foreign lands. Not everyone can be or should be Missionaries.
The spreading of the Gospel is not something you have to leave your home town to do; there are many people around you that need the Gospel as well.
There is a great saying about the Gospel:
Spread the message of Christ constantly. When necessary, use words.
But you are correct. Way too many Christians ignore the Great Commission of Jesus, which is to spread the Gospel to all men.
Oh and btw, Karl Marx says you’re wrong
“Karl Marx established atheism as a key part of communism. He famously said, “Religion ... is the opium of the masses.”
So then you, MTCC, as an atheist, are qualified to judge the religious faith of others; that is, their belief in something that, according to you, doesn’t even exist.
This has the same logic as homosexuals judging a women’s beauty contest. (Oh...my bad...that really happened.)
Anyway, you come off as smug, arrogant, and typical of the Richard Dawkins school of religious debate. You’re far more entertaining than you realize.
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