To: pobeda1945
Obama’s fault.
I’m just staying in practice.
2 posted on
06/22/2009 6:30:33 AM PDT by
vladimir998
(Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
To: pobeda1945
To: pobeda1945
Is that the war where Stalin made a non-aggression pact with Hitler to slice up Poland after the Nazis attacked it?
4 posted on
06/22/2009 6:33:34 AM PDT by
Carl LaFong
(Experts say experts should be ignored.)
To: pobeda1945
At least 26.5 million Soviet civilians and soldiers died during the conflict, according to official statistics. Nowhere near the number of those who died because of Stalin.
6 posted on
06/22/2009 6:35:09 AM PDT by
Ingtar
(Americans have truly let America down. A sad day.)
To: pobeda1945
I guess the Russians would prefer to forget that, for them, the war actually began on 17 September 1939 when they, allied with Nazi Germany, invaded Poland ...
... but, hey, I guess when thieves fall out, the one getting shafted wants to play the victim.
7 posted on
06/22/2009 6:35:33 AM PDT by
BlueLancer
(Think Of It As Evolution in Action)
To: pobeda1945
I notice, they only commemorate from 1941-1945. Maybe they should have a commemorate when they teamed up with Nazi Germany to slice up Poland. Or when they invaded the Baltic states or maybe commemorate when they invaded Finland and got their butts kicked for six months before Finland capitulated.
To: pobeda1945
“Great Patriotic War” = more ways for “Uncle Joe” Stalin to kill more of his own people.
To: pobeda1945
Socialist murdering off a hundred millions.
Yeah, real patriotism.
10 posted on
06/22/2009 7:12:58 AM PDT by
Leisler
("It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged."~G.K. Chesterton)
To: pobeda1945
Ignoring everything else, the two keys to the German defeat in the East were:
- Bloody nose delivered to the Japanese army in 1939 by Georgy Zhukov at the Battle of Khalkhin Gol. This caused Japan to change her entire strategic thrust away from Russia and kept Japan from opening up a second front against Russia in 1941 to 1943.
- Winter War of 1939-1940. Russia entered this war against Finland every bit as ill prepared for Winter combat as the Germans were ill prepared in 1941. Lessons learned by the Red Army from losses suffered due to:
- weather; cold not only kills men, it kills vehicles and equipment.
- the Finnish Suomi M31 submachinegun; a highly effective tool for close-quarter fighting in forests or built-up urban areas which the Russians made nearly identical copies of in the form of the PPsH-40/41.
- Finnish snipers; used to great effect against the Red Army
- egg type grenades in forests and close quarters. "Potato masher" type grenades favored by the Red Army can't be used effectively in forests or built up urban areas.
- molotov cocktails as a close quarter anti-armour weapon. Dangerous to use but effective against tanks.
were used to great effect against the Germans in 1941 and beyond.
14 posted on
06/22/2009 8:31:54 AM PDT by
fso301
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