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To: randita

Precisely.

Which is why we have no representation in the North East now

Conservatives have to allow our candidates to run as “moderates” in places like the Northeast, Western California and now Northern VA.

By “moderate” I mean allow them to essentially ignore social wedge issues for the general election in these areas.


5 posted on 06/23/2009 5:58:58 AM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: MadIsh32
By “moderate” I mean allow them to essentially ignore social wedge issues for the general election in these areas.

Even though we win on the social issues? The current consensus on abortion isn't 'pro' anymore. And the consensus on partial-birth never was.

And then, you'll have to show me an R-candidate who was soft on the social wedge issues who didn't also go soft on the fiscal issues in an attempt to pay for the social issues. And then show me a softie who has a lick of sense about border control.

I don't really care if we elect more Snowes or Jeffords in the NE. They vote the wrong way on the important issues, which means the Republicans get the label of being ineffective when they do have a 'majority'. I don't want the republicans to be a Majority-In-Name-Only, which happens if we need to rely on RINOs to make up the 51 Senators or 218 Representatives majorities.

18 posted on 06/23/2009 7:38:19 AM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard work to be cynical enough in this age)
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To: MadIsh32

meh...

The populations of those areas are not going to elect limited government type conservatives whether they attempt to ignore your “social wedge” issues or not. The local and national media will make sure of it.

SO... If your only going to get a socialist elected, there is no reason to compromise our ideology. What I mean by this is its pointless to elect someone whos ideology is the antitheses of ours. Get enough of them in the party and they will push out the limited government type conservatives and lobby for further “moderation” as a way of winning even more seats. (for socialists.. not conservatives)

Instead of fighting the socialists in the other party, we are now fighting the socialists in the other party and those in the GOP (whom of which now virtually OWN the GOP). No thanks... Been there done that... Still stuck there...

The path to reclaiming the freedom we so cravenly abandoned, doesn’t pass through the socialist slave states anyway. In fact, it doesn’t even pass through Washington, DC. The path leads through those states and peoples that are willing to retake the positions that were intended for them and declare their sovereignty from the federal governments usurpations through actions and not just resolutions.


20 posted on 06/23/2009 8:04:05 AM PDT by myself6 (.)
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To: MadIsh32

“Conservatives have to allow our candidates to run as “moderates” in places like the Northeast, Western California and now Northern VA.”

ROFL! Where and when did the Mod Squad ask PERMISSION from the conservatives over who to run and how?

I somehow missed that. Time and again, the ones running in these places are moderates.

“By “moderate” I mean allow them to essentially ignore social wedge issues for the general election in these areas.”

Yeah, those issues that help us build a governing majority, instead of being a rump minority of country clubbers. Gotcha.


21 posted on 06/23/2009 8:50:35 AM PDT by WOSG (Why is Obama trying to bankrupt America with $16 trillion in spending over the next 4 years?)
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To: MadIsh32
Which is why we have no representation in the North East now

Conservatives have to allow our candidates to run as “moderates” in places like the Northeast, Western California and now Northern VA.

By “moderate” I mean allow them to essentially ignore social wedge issues for the general election in these areas.

IMHO, you missed the show. They knocked off mostly RINOs in the Northeast with more liberal rats starting in 2006. In the rest of the country, the rats moved to the right running pro Second Amendment and prolife candidates like Casey in PA.

29 posted on 06/23/2009 8:33:07 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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