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Did Obama Say We Should Kill the Old Folks to Save Money Last Night?
Stop the ACLU ^ | 25 Jun 09 | Warner Todd Huston

Posted on 06/25/2009 9:26:07 AM PDT by Jay777

I am wondering when the euthanasia folks are going to start touting this one? I mean, it sure seemed to me as if the most caring, most civil, most intelligent president evah just said that healthcare could be cheaper if we don’t give old folks and the infirm the full measure of care they now get. It appeared that Obama said we should just let them die or suffer because they aren’t worth the effort. Imagine if Bush had said something like this? The left wouldn’t have hesitated to call him any manner of names.

Obama said during the ABC Special on Wednesday night that a way to save healthcare costs is to abandon the sort of care that “evidence shows is not necessarily going to improve” the patient’s health. He went on to say that he had personal familiarity with such a situation when his grandmother broke her hip after she was diagnosed with terminal cancer.

Obama offered a question on the efficacy of further care for his grandmother saying, “and the question was, does she get hip replacement surgery, even though she was fragile enough they were not sure how long she would last?”

But who is it that will present the “evidence” that will “show” that further care is futile? Are we to believe that Obama expects individual doctors will make that decision in his bold new government controlled healthcare future? If he is trying to make that claim it is a flat out untruth and he knows it.

Does your homebuilder negotiate with your city hall over whether you get a building permit, or does the permit get levied no matter what?

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1 posted on 06/25/2009 9:26:07 AM PDT by Jay777
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To: Jay777
I posted this earlier.

We (the government) will decide if you are too old to live.

2 posted on 06/25/2009 9:27:21 AM PDT by Indy Pendance ("The beauty of the 2nd is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Jay777

book mark


3 posted on 06/25/2009 9:27:31 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands ("Failed Obama Administration" (TM))
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The messiah will decide, not you, not your family, not your doctor, not you suffering catastrophic illnes, ONLY THE MESSIAH WILL DECIDE.

The messiah, “additional tests or additional drugs that the evidence shows is not necessarily going to improve care.”

He added: “Maybe you’re better off not having the surgery, but taking the painkiller.”


4 posted on 06/25/2009 9:28:09 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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5 posted on 06/25/2009 9:28:39 AM PDT by NMEwithin
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An intelligent people would fight this government through every legal means, to prevent it from making every decision in their lives.


6 posted on 06/25/2009 9:29:13 AM PDT by popdonnelly (The Democrats have returned to their game of supporting totalitarian regimes. Now they're muslim.)
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>>“Maybe you’re better off not having the surgery, but taking the painkiller.”<<

Translation.
We’ll snow you on morphine until you die.


7 posted on 06/25/2009 9:29:24 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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Yes.


8 posted on 06/25/2009 9:29:49 AM PDT by ladyvet (WOLVERINES!!!!!)
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The chief deciding factor will be if you are Republican or Democrat. If spending the money on one ill Democrat would keep 100 Republicans alive, the money will be spent on the Democrat.


9 posted on 06/25/2009 9:31:33 AM PDT by Enterprise (When they come for your guns and ammo, give them the ammo first.)
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To: Indy Pendance
There shouldn't be any doubt about where OLD people stand with Obama making medical resources scarce.

Look. if he's is willing to promote abortion - even deny a botched aborted baby medical care ... does anyone really believe Obama would have ANY hesitation to deny medical care to the elderly that are incapapbalble like babies of speaking up and caring for them selves?

GET REAL!

Obama is EVIL.

10 posted on 06/25/2009 9:31:36 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: popdonnelly
An intelligent people would fight this government through every legal means, to prevent it from making every decision in their lives.


11 posted on 06/25/2009 9:32:23 AM PDT by jessduntno (July 4th, 2009. Washington DC. Gadsden Flags. Be There.)
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“He added: “Maybe you’re better off not having the surgery, but taking the painkiller.”

The Kenyan communist fraud is now a medical expert? Personally, I don’t think he’s even qualified to be a friggin’ lawyer!


12 posted on 06/25/2009 9:33:02 AM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: Jay777
We Should Kill the Old Folks to Save Money is what I heard Obama say. I'm rapidly headed (as we all are) that way not good PR!
13 posted on 06/25/2009 9:33:12 AM PDT by BellStar (May the Fourth be with you!)
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In effect that’s what he said. At some point (of age) the treatment does not make sense.

He’ll limit diagnostics, too. He says one-third are ineffective.

So you have a persistent pain, they do a CAT. see nothing (ineffective). Pain gets worse, they try ultrasound, see nothing 9ineffective). The problem persists, they do an MRI, see nothing (ineffective). The pain gets worse. You get an expensive radionuclide imaging scan, and guess what, a little tumor growing on your peritoneum, pressing on a nerve. Saves your life.

Under ObamaCare they’d limit diagnostics. In the example above, were the ones that saw nothing really ineffective and a waste of money? “Funny how you find things in the last place you look”.

he’s not speaking only of the old folks, he’s going to limit diagnostics and treatments across the board because you never know in advance what will work (unless you are The One, to whom all is revealed).


14 posted on 06/25/2009 9:33:47 AM PDT by DBrow
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