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Obama Wants to Let Those Pesky Geezers Die
American Spectator ^ | 6.25.09 @ 2:36PM | By Matthew Vadum

Posted on 06/25/2009 11:43:36 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines

In a rare moment of candor, President Obama explained to an audience how government-run healthcare would work in America....Obama suggested at a town hall event Wednesday night that one way to shave medical costs is to stop expensive and ultimately futile procedures performed on people who are about to die and don't stand to gain from the extra care.

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Here comes the rationing...
1 posted on 06/25/2009 11:43:36 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

As a pesky geezer. I’m not ready to die.


2 posted on 06/25/2009 11:45:03 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (The only time I want a Republican reaching across the aisle is to smack a liberal.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

3 posted on 06/25/2009 11:45:24 AM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

Would this be used on anyone involved in a bad accident?


4 posted on 06/25/2009 11:47:06 AM PDT by handy old one (It is unbecoming for young men to utter maxims. Aristote)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

you mean the grandmother he threw under the bus?


5 posted on 06/25/2009 11:47:21 AM PDT by altoinprogress
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

He does not care about your parents (the old geizers) but he does want their money.

They have proposed 50% inheritance tax to pay for National Health Care.

The Obamanista’s are Traitors, Theives, Liars, Commies and worse.

Scum of the Earth.


6 posted on 06/25/2009 11:47:22 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Once a Republic, Now a State, Still Texas)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Being a proud member of Geezer-R-Us, I resent the idea that the Inheritance Tax revenue is driving this, I think...they want those old-timers to go so the revenue stream can be used to offset the Trillions they need to insure drug addicts, welfare recipients, illegal squatters, and the homeless......they probably already have counted how much they can gain in Death Tax dollars in their calculations of Baby Boomer estates.....


7 posted on 06/25/2009 11:48:42 AM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gots to worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gots to buy no gas...Obama gonna take care o' me!")
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To: Texas Fossil

DITTO


8 posted on 06/25/2009 11:49:10 AM PDT by ldish (Looking forward to Independence Day)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

What are you gonna do? Not everbody can afford a Bentley. Those that can afford it should have the opportunity to pay for it.


9 posted on 06/25/2009 11:49:10 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

This should not surprise anyone - Obama did not want a doctor to be “burdened” with having to assess and give medical aid to a infant born after an abortion procedure.

A kicking and struggling infant may just have a long life if given care and an adoptive family - but even then Obama wanted the infant to be put in a linen closet or out of sight till the infant expired.


10 posted on 06/25/2009 11:49:14 AM PDT by Tweeker
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Joycelyn Elders: "I Agree with Mr. Obama to the full capacity" (video) (Fox News / YouTube 07/25/2007 Fox News)
11 posted on 06/25/2009 11:50:58 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

The Obama healthcare program = the It’s-Cheaper-If-You-Die Plan


12 posted on 06/25/2009 11:52:34 AM PDT by Lexington Green (Is it racist to disapprove of the content of his character?)
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To: Tweeker
Obama did not want a doctor to be “burdened” with having to assess and give medical aid to a infant born after an abortion procedure.

Obama didn't want the mother to be burdened with having to abandon a baby that she never wanted. of course fathers have no say in whether they are obligated to that baby for the next 18 years after pregnancy occurs. It's a given that they are and the State comes down on the citizenry to prohibit all men from obtaining driver's licenses, etc. without proving they are not deadbeat dads.

13 posted on 06/25/2009 11:52:57 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

You mean like Teddy? Oh, sorry. He’s TOO IMPORTANT to die!


14 posted on 06/25/2009 11:53:49 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: altoinprogress

That grandmother probably expired under a pillow.


15 posted on 06/25/2009 11:54:04 AM PDT by indylindy (Anyone dumb enough to have voted for him deserves what they get.. No Pity!)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
He can't worry about the old and sick. It's above his pay grade.
16 posted on 06/25/2009 11:54:06 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
So much for "Trauma: Life in the ER."

Let 'em die by the side of the road.

17 posted on 06/25/2009 11:55:11 AM PDT by synbad600
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen
Bring Out Your Dead!
18 posted on 06/25/2009 11:55:19 AM PDT by texson66 (DemonRats: Remember: They have what it takes to TAKE WHAT YOU HAVE!)
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To: handy old one

I’ve been hearing about getting in accidents as part of healthcare. But wouldn’t that come under a different insurance plan, such as your car insurance, or if it was the fault of another, their insurance plan?


19 posted on 06/25/2009 11:55:45 AM PDT by murron (Proud Marine Mom)
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To: Lexington Green
OBAMACARE: You pay your taxes and you get a postcard of the new medical clinic to stare at on your wall.

If you get sick, make an appointment. You won't get to see your doctor in a timely manner.

Outcomes:

- You die. Money is saved. Problem has resolved itself.

- OR you don't die...

--- You eventually get better. Wait it out and recovery may come.

--- OR you eventually seek out an alternative home remedy.

--- OR you eventually accept your new condition as a reality of "getting older" and count your blessings.

--- OR you go to another country for a medical vacation and pay for it yourself.

20 posted on 06/25/2009 11:57:00 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Euthanasia for the elderly (baby boomers)? No but heavy emphasis on palliative care.

Some of us have been saying for a long time that health care "reform" is actually a way to cut the cost of Social Security.

Seriously ill elderly have a duty to die and get out of the way said Democrat Richard Lamm years ago.

Also, I believe Rat Party (formerly the traditional, patriotic Democratic Party) puppet master, Soros, wants emphasis on palliative care having raised a ruckus with his original emphasis on euthanasia

21 posted on 06/25/2009 11:57:03 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I’ll say it again

ObamaCare = RAID for Seniors.


22 posted on 06/25/2009 11:57:12 AM PDT by ASOC (Who IS that fat lady, and why is she singing?????)
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To: paul51

Above his paygrade my furry yellow butt. That is an old military phrase as in E5 or 03. He is the commander in chief. If he is going to force us to have cubacare, just imagine how bad the VA is going to get. I would imagine that there will be a bunch of private enterprise doctors that start making house calls for cash again. If I was a doc, I would.


23 posted on 06/25/2009 11:59:00 AM PDT by Texas resident
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To: Tweeker

The sad truth is that if this comes to pass, the only thing that won’t be rationed will be abortion. That will be available 24/7/365.


24 posted on 06/25/2009 11:59:09 AM PDT by anoldafvet (Proud Member of the Radical Right-wing Extremist Movement)
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To: Texas Fossil

Money News - Obama: Raise Death Tax to Pay for Healthcare

NY Times: Change in Estate Tax Suggested to Pay for Health Care

Yep...they'll need to kill 'em a little faster to keep up with the healthcare demand.

25 posted on 06/25/2009 11:59:15 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
"In a rare moment of candor,"

Liberals think rationed health care and euthanasia of the sick and old is funny.

So did Hitler.

26 posted on 06/25/2009 12:00:12 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: ASOC

Better keep an eye on those life insurance policies. Talk about a raid.

(0=cold, calculating SOAW)


27 posted on 06/25/2009 12:00:20 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Mount Athos
Obama-Care will bring us:

* The scientific dishonesty of Global Warming The compassion of an IRS agent
* The lines of the US Postal Service or DMV
* The fiscal responsibility of the Pentagon who brought us $500 hammers and $1,000 toilet seats
* The lobbying of the wives of like Senators Daschle and Dodd
* Expansion of staff for Senators and Congressman to handle health care disputes

...and this....
The New Stasi (formerly known as ACORN) guards a geriatric clinic. Elderly shooed away told to 'Do us all a favor and go home and die'.


28 posted on 06/25/2009 12:03:24 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
This is hardly new. Democrat Governor Dick Lamm was saying in the 1980’s the elderly have a “duty to die.”
29 posted on 06/25/2009 12:05:41 PM PDT by colorado tanker ("Lastly, I'd like to apologize for America's disproportionate response to Pearl Harbor . . . ")
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To: Lexington Green

Therefore....let’s get rid of speed limits, safety belt and helmet laws, car seats for kids, bans on smoking and all that other stuff. They are in a contradiction and need to decide if they want us alive or not. Maybe they want workers and potential workers alive. Wish everybody would go on strike or something


30 posted on 06/25/2009 12:05:56 PM PDT by Anima Mundi
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Obama suggested at a town hall event Wednesday night that one way to shave medical costs is to stop expensive and ultimately futile procedures performed on people who are about to die

Translation, Obama wants to ensure that those that voted against him aren't around in 2012.

31 posted on 06/25/2009 12:07:06 PM PDT by notpoliticallycorewrecked (According to the MSM, I'm a fringe sitting, pajama wearing Freeper)
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To: handy old one

Would this be used on anyone involved in a bad accident?

I envicion this standard being used on anyone who has become drain on ovt coffers, as opposed to contributing to govt coffers.

Gangbangers should take note, no more free ER patch ups, possibly only positive to whole scenario


32 posted on 06/25/2009 12:07:13 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: Texas Fossil

Ding, ding, ding...
We have a winner! (Kudos to the astute posters here!)
The ‘public plan’ is just a way to perpetuate the ponzi scheme known as ‘Medicare’. Every good ponzi scheme needs more rubes...er.ah...victims...er.ah...clients. (Yeah, that’s the ticket!)


33 posted on 06/25/2009 12:07:40 PM PDT by griswold3
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To: Texas resident
"I would imagine that there will be a bunch of private enterprise doctors that start making house calls for cash again. If I was a doc, I would."

Except that would be illegal under the universal health care act.

34 posted on 06/25/2009 12:07:56 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: murron

Yes but insurance cost is insurance cost no mater where it starts and they will want control of all of it in the end!!


35 posted on 06/25/2009 12:08:00 PM PDT by handy old one (It is unbecoming for young men to utter maxims. Aristote)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

bump for later read


36 posted on 06/25/2009 12:09:07 PM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Will they just list cause of death as “Death by Obama”?


37 posted on 06/25/2009 12:09:43 PM PDT by Patsygirl
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To: madison10

Well, Seniors should be scared - but most don’t know enough to raise a fuss. AARP has been co-opted, so many follow like the good little sheep they are.

If Congress was forced to use the same health care system they are pushing - it would never get out of the gate.


38 posted on 06/25/2009 12:10:58 PM PDT by ASOC (Who IS that fat lady, and why is she singing?????)
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To: Nailbiter

The people that are sucking out the GOVT coffers and putting nothing in should be weaned off the GOVT by having to go for education , work to continue to receive any backing.


39 posted on 06/25/2009 12:11:06 PM PDT by handy old one (It is unbecoming for young men to utter maxims. Aristote)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Many doctors will say “So what?” and do it under the table.


40 posted on 06/25/2009 12:12:56 PM PDT by coydog (Proud to have slept through the Obama coronation!)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Rationing is already here. The insurance companies ration health care everyday. The measurement they use is company profit, cant pay to many claims or profit will suffer as is well known to anyone who has ever had a major illness or accident insurance companies are in the business of making a profit not paying claims.

As for myself, and being a geezer, I think at some point accepting useless medical care is squandering my children's future. It seems illogical to yell about the deficits we are leaving our children but at the same time demand every last dime out of the health care system..

41 posted on 06/25/2009 12:12:58 PM PDT by montanajoe
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“Obama Wants to Let Those Pesky Geezers Die”
*************
This old jarhead has seen lotsa punks come and go—what with the decay of society on the whole, it’s getting to be interesting seeing more-n-more of the punks go!

Think I’ll stick around and watch...and...watch, and watch!!!!
You betcha @$$!!!!!

Semper Fidelis
Dick G
**********


42 posted on 06/25/2009 12:15:21 PM PDT by gunnyg
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

In both his news conference and infomercial, the President almost taunted private insurers abIout “competing” with his proposed “public option”. As a by-product of the Chicago Machine, “competition” to him may mean something different than what most of us would assume, like the same rules, a level playing field, things like that. Has anyone heard about eliminating the barriers private companies have for interstate sales? Mandates? Of course not.In the private sector, premiums are a function of: Risk; the cost of actual previous experience; administrative expenses; taxes; profit (he hates that word) margin and RESERVES FOR FUTURE CLAIMS,(the reserves for VA,zero;Medicaid,zero; Medicare,$31trillion UNFUNDED liability). Private insurer costs are offset by investment earnings that a “public option” won’t have. What replaces not only the investment earnings but lost investment capital for the economy? Isn’t it clear Obama wants to control both risk and capital,the 2 primary elemnts of a market economy? An unlevel playing field tilts the “game” Chicago Machine style to the “public option” and will lead, through “competition” to the desired goal, a single payor system. To paraphrase Alinsky: the organizer must have sight of the long term goal, but must work towards and appreciate UNCHANGABLE incremental successes. Go Comrade Go.


43 posted on 06/25/2009 12:15:37 PM PDT by easttennesseejohn
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To: handy old one

yes, and if you have a spinal cord injury you end up as fish food


44 posted on 06/25/2009 12:15:46 PM PDT by sfvgto (Dear Congress, my name is Jimmie....gimmie, gimmie, gimmie)
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To: Patsygirl

Do you think any of the old Jews in Florida will somehow realize they signed their own death warrants when they voted for this clown?


45 posted on 06/25/2009 12:15:54 PM PDT by pistolpetestoys (Outside of a dog a book is a mans best friend;inside a dog it's too dark to read.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
"Obama Wants to Let Those Pesky Geezers Die"


46 posted on 06/25/2009 12:16:07 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see a REAL C.O.L.B. BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Health Policy Professor Discusses The 'Cost-Benefit' Of Elderly Recieving Federal Healthcare
47 posted on 06/25/2009 12:17:33 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Does that mean fat Ted Kennedy is not gonna get any more care????.....ohhh but hes got the senate health care!!!
48 posted on 06/25/2009 12:19:36 PM PDT by M-cubed (Why is "Greshams Law" a law?)
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To: WorkerbeeCitizen

If you cease being pesky, you’ll be ok. lol


49 posted on 06/25/2009 12:20:10 PM PDT by verity ("Lord, what fools we mortals be!")
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Prediction: Obamacare will be D.O.A. just like Hillarycare was...
50 posted on 06/25/2009 12:22:21 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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