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Jumping Jihad!! Rev. Warren goes Wahhabi (Top Evangelist to Promote New Religion; 'Chrislam')
Paul Williams ^ | Thursday, June 25, 2009 | Paul Williams

Posted on 06/25/2009 1:07:18 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Top protestant evangelist to promote new religion; 'Chrislam' at radical Muslim convention

The Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), an organization with ties to Hamas and other terrorist groups, will hold its annual convention—the largest yearly gathering of Muslims on the continent—in Washington, D.C. over the Fourth of July weekend.

And the keynote speaker will be Reverend Rick Warren, founder and senior minister of the Saddleback Church, an evangelical mega-church located in Lake Forest, California.

Rev. Warren has become one of America’s leading Christian leaders. Over 400,000 pastors attend his “purpose-driven” church seminars and his books, including “The Purpose Driven Life,” have become international best-sellers.

Why did Rev. Warren commit to appear at such a controversial gathering?

The nation’s leading Protestant evangelist was unavailable for comment, but his scheduled visit at the convention follows ISNA leader Sayyid Syeed’s appearance at the Saddleback Church last December.

Why is the ISNA so controversial?

The organization’s website contains the following quotations:

“The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. ‘O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him.’”

“May Allah fight the Jews and the Christians? They took the graves of their Prophets as places of prostration. Two deens [religions] shall not co-exist in the land of the Arabs.”

“I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim.” “The Dajjal [Devil, Antichrist] would be followed by seventy thousand Jews of Isfahan wearing Persian shawls.” “Ibn Umar reported that Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) stoned to death the Jews, both male and female, who had committed adultery.”

(Excerpt) Read more at canadafreepress.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: christian; islam; isna; protestant; purposedrivennuts; rickwarren; saddlebackchurch; warren
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1 posted on 06/25/2009 1:07:19 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
Ka-Ching!
2 posted on 06/25/2009 1:07:52 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: All

A closer look at ISNA:

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/isna/index


3 posted on 06/25/2009 1:10:00 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: nickcarraway
And here I just suggested an eDisHarmony.com on a marriage related thread.

In the age of zerO, WTH not.

4 posted on 06/25/2009 1:10:38 PM PDT by Landru (Arghh, Liberals are trapped in my colon like spackle or paste.)
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To: nickcarraway
If this is true it means Rick Warren does not know the Bible and/or the Islamic Trilogy (Quran, Sira, Haddith).

There is no other way to put it, since anyone who truly knows both faiths should easily recognize that the God of the Bible and Allah have nothing in common.

5 posted on 06/25/2009 1:11:59 PM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: nickcarraway

Chrislam, the one world religion for the one world slave who receives the one world currency from his one world government to live his one world standard of living.


6 posted on 06/25/2009 1:12:28 PM PDT by BipolarBob (It takes a Kenyan village to raise a US president.)
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To: nickcarraway
The nation’s leading Protestant evangelist ...

Says who? That guy is a hustler.

7 posted on 06/25/2009 1:13:01 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Shouldn't there be equal time for our Bill of Responsibilities?" -- Justice Clarence Thomas)
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To: Terriergal

ping


8 posted on 06/25/2009 1:14:01 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: nickcarraway

When you base your “theology” on a social “gospel”, the depths of depravity are inevitable and limitless.


9 posted on 06/25/2009 1:14:40 PM PDT by This Just In
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To: nickcarraway

Where’s the “Chrislam” line? - can somebody quote it?

The article won’t open correctly for me - thanks in advance


10 posted on 06/25/2009 1:18:15 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: BipolarBob

And that One World is the Third-World....


11 posted on 06/25/2009 1:19:03 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: nickcarraway

"Good evening, Chrislam infidel!"

12 posted on 06/25/2009 1:19:20 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: nickcarraway

*nation’s leading Protestant evangelist*

Protestant, I don’t think so. Just another Fundy
with their made up beliefs.

These shysters are just another cult.


13 posted on 06/25/2009 1:19:45 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: BipolarBob

Just what I was thinking, Bob.


14 posted on 06/25/2009 1:21:14 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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To: nickcarraway

Lots of inference, here, but nowhere does the article actually quote Warren baldfeacedly promoting — or even voicing support for — “chrislam.”

This is a not-very-surprising exhibition of poor judgment on Warren’s part, and — lamentably — NOT his first excursion into stupidity. Still, there’s more heat than light, here, and precious little in the way of actual facts given to support the inflammatory headline.

Based on the headline, I would expect to be reading at least a couple of damning wuotes IN CONTEXT from Warren himself overtly advocating this “chrislam” mockery. I don’t, which leads me to believe that he hasn’t said any such thing. Frankly, if he had said anything of that sort, I’ve little doubt that the author of this article would have used it in the first paragraph or two, but nothing of the sort appears in the entire piece, so I doubt that Warren’s position is actually what the headline tries to portray.

Best to get the straight skinny right from the horse’s own mouth, IMO.


15 posted on 06/25/2009 1:22:34 PM PDT by HKMk23 (Ma dolate zoor nemikhaim!)
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To: nickcarraway
Rev. Warren has become one of America’s leading Christian leaders.

He doesn't lead me. Perhaps he is leading some astray.

16 posted on 06/25/2009 1:22:51 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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To: nickcarraway

anything for God-Almighty Dollar the MSM Publicity Machine


17 posted on 06/25/2009 1:23:27 PM PDT by MissDairyGoodnessVT (Mac Conchradha - "Skeagh mac en chroe"- Skaghvicencrowe)
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To: OneWingedShark
And that One World is the Third-World....

Of course, The Profitt Algore said it is not seemly for 4% of the worlds population to use 25% of the worlds resources (I assume he meant back when we had factories here and produced things)and so Americans should be prepared to have their standard of living reduced (by the government) through taxation, inflation and regulation.

18 posted on 06/25/2009 1:23:34 PM PDT by BipolarBob (It takes a Kenyan village to raise a US president.)
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To: F15Eagle

I couldn’t find it either.


19 posted on 06/25/2009 1:24:27 PM PDT by Abigail Adams
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To: nickcarraway

And here comes the ecumenical religion from Revelations. Holy smokes.


20 posted on 06/25/2009 1:30:49 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Out of gas become a pill box, Out of ammo become a bunker, Out of hope become a hero.)
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To: nickcarraway

Well, why not? The Antichrist will be accepted as the Jewish Messiah, accepted as the second coming of Christ by Christians, and the false prophet could be the Mahdi. Everyone will say peace has come. Warren is a pop star preacher doing pop things, and Islam is becoming pop. What’s a little apostasy these days?


21 posted on 06/25/2009 1:31:49 PM PDT by pallis
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To: Abigail Adams

thanks - though it wouldn’t surprise me too much, I’d like to see it in black and white before I pass the article on, if true.

Much of Christianity is buying into the ecumenical lie.


22 posted on 06/25/2009 1:32:18 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, John 11:25, 14:6, 1 Tim 2:5, John 3:17-18, John 20:31, 1 John 5:13, John 6:69)
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To: nickcarraway

So, does this mean the Libs will like Rev. Warren now?


23 posted on 06/25/2009 1:34:14 PM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: nickcarraway

I’d hate to read what the author would say about the Apostle Paul.

Act 17:22 So Paul, standing in the midst of the Areopagus, said: “Men of Athens, I perceive that in every way you are very religious.
Act 17:23 For as I passed along and observed the objects of your worship, I found also an altar with this inscription, ‘To the unknown god.’ What therefore you worship as unknown, this I proclaim to you.

Instead of backbiting, let’s all pray the Warren preaches the Gospel to the muslims.


24 posted on 06/25/2009 1:34:36 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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To: BipolarBob

That time must be getting closer than we think.


25 posted on 06/25/2009 1:34:45 PM PDT by Ladysmith (The trouble with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money - M. Thatcher)
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To: SoCalPol

“Fundy”????

You sound like a NAMBLA/GLADD spokeman.

If you are referring to Word of Faith, and thier ilk, I would agree that their beliefs do not come from the Bible. They would not fall under the vernacular Fundy which is usually used by the homosexual community as a derogatory term for all Christians that do not believe in homosexual marriage.

Fundimentalisism covers a number of groups, most promote the “Christ alone” theory of salvation which would be very different from what this thread is discussing.


26 posted on 06/25/2009 1:36:16 PM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: nickcarraway; hocndoc

Hey!

Can we all just wait and see what Warren has to say to the Muslims before stoning the man?

I second what hocndoc said in Post #24.


27 posted on 06/25/2009 1:40:05 PM PDT by Jedidah ("Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana)
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To: nickcarraway

Warren is trying too hard to be politically correct. Where is the focus on the gospel?


28 posted on 06/25/2009 1:40:30 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: SoCalPol
Just another Fundy with their made up beliefs.

I guess that depends on how you define "fundy". Typically, "social gospel" types like Warren are not considered "fundy".

29 posted on 06/25/2009 1:42:09 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: pallis
. . .accepted as the second coming of Christ by Christians

Huh?

30 posted on 06/25/2009 1:43:56 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: dangerdoc

You are sort of on the sick side.

I voted against gay marriage here in CA.


31 posted on 06/25/2009 1:45:46 PM PDT by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: nickcarraway

For him to attend that meeting means that he doesn’t accept Christianity and that he is bowing down in willing submission before the world-domination movement cleverly disguised as a religion.


32 posted on 06/25/2009 1:47:28 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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If I was invited to speak to a muslim group, I wonder how I would handle it?

I figure if they’ve invited you, knowing what you believe, then they must want to hear more of it. Preach Christ and wind up with the invitation just like you would anywhere else.

If Warren will do that, he’ll have my respect. If not, he should skip this venue.


33 posted on 06/25/2009 1:48:29 PM PDT by marron
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To: Quix

Ping!


34 posted on 06/25/2009 1:51:55 PM PDT by houeto (Defang the FEDGOV. Repeal the 17th!)
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To: nickcarraway

Warren’s church is not “evangelical”, nor is he a “Christian Leader”. At least not one I’ve every recognized. His book was interesting, that’s about all I can think of nice to say about him.


35 posted on 06/25/2009 1:53:30 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: nickcarraway

Not surprising to me. Warren is a media hound. No solid biblical convictions. Very sadly, a false preacher, in my opinion, leading many people astray and many people to hell.


36 posted on 06/25/2009 1:53:49 PM PDT by rawhide
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For me, this is a big yawn.

Warren was a heretic before this, and whether it's true or not, he'll be a heretic after.

37 posted on 06/25/2009 1:56:01 PM PDT by AAABEST (And the light shineth in darkness: and the darkness did not comprehend it)
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To: nickcarraway

“Rev. Warren has become one of America’s leading Christian leaders”

Wrong. The correct statement might have been “Rev. Warren has become one of the most well known American Christian ministers”.

I don’t think he is a “leader” outside of his own Church.


38 posted on 06/25/2009 1:59:06 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: nickcarraway

Tashlan.

C.S. Lewis was way ahead of this yahoo.


39 posted on 06/25/2009 2:03:39 PM PDT by SparkyBass
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To: nickcarraway

This is stunning. nickcarraway this is the best “scoop” in a while. Good job!


40 posted on 06/25/2009 2:04:13 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: nickcarraway

Perhaps his next book will be “The Explosion Driven Life.”


41 posted on 06/25/2009 2:04:49 PM PDT by miketheprof
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If I was invited to speak to a muslim group, I wonder how I would handle it?

Our pastor was invited once to speak about Christianity to the muslim student group on our college campus. He walked into an ambush -- it turns out that, without telling him, the student group also brought in one of Islam's foremost apologists (Jamal Badawi) to "debate" our pastor.

Our guy held his own well enough, but he wasn't nearly as polished (or as well prepared) as Badawi, and came across as the much weaker of the two.

Of course, God isn't limited by the shortcomings of His servants, so who knows -- perhaps some were intrigued by the Good News nonetheless.

42 posted on 06/25/2009 2:12:32 PM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Two blogs for the price of none!)
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To: Wuli
I don’t think he is a “leader” outside of his own Church.

Unfortunately, far too many pastors look up to him.

43 posted on 06/25/2009 2:13:52 PM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Two blogs for the price of none!)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
the student group also brought in one of Islam's foremost apologists (Jamal Badawi)

I wonder if this guy would have the guts to go against Ravi Zacharias?

44 posted on 06/25/2009 2:21:44 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: nickcarraway

While some believe Warren is being wrongfully prejudged since he hasn’t yet spoken at this Islamic conference, no doubt he will live up to the expectations expressed on this thread. All you have to do is look at his miserable liberal track record. He is a leading advocate of one world religion, “Chrislam” if you please.

Some hope he will preach the gospel to these Muslims. Not going to happen, the Muslims screen who is going to speak to them. They full well know Warren is not a true Protestant, Fundamentalist, nor even a true Christian. And that whatever form of “gospel” he might preach to them will be so watered down it won’t be recognized as such.


45 posted on 06/25/2009 2:24:10 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: miketheprof

“The Jihad Driven Life” or

“The Purpose Driven Jihad”


46 posted on 06/25/2009 2:29:03 PM PDT by Cecily
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To: rawhide
I wonder if this guy would have the guts to go against Ravi Zacharias?

I'd love to see that matchup.

47 posted on 06/25/2009 2:35:28 PM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Two blogs for the price of none!)
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To: sasportas

sasportas wrote: All you have to do is look at his miserable liberal track record. He is a leading advocate of one world religion, “Chrislam” if you please.

Nevadan: Can you give concrete evidence of Rick Warren espousing that he is now an advocate of “Chrislam”? Just curious.


48 posted on 06/25/2009 2:36:28 PM PDT by Nevadan
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To: nickcarraway
Tashlan.
49 posted on 06/25/2009 2:45:39 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: nickcarraway
"The Profit-Driven Church"

Cheers!

50 posted on 06/25/2009 2:47:36 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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