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The ugly face of liberalism
American Thinker ^ | July 01, 2009 | Selwyn Duke

Posted on 06/30/2009 10:42:58 PM PDT by neverdem

It has been interesting watching the response to the Honduran military's recent ousting its nation's president, Manuel Zelaya.  Barack Obama called the action "not legal" and Hillary Clinton said that the arrest of Zelaya should be condemned.  Most interesting, perhaps, is that taking this position places them shoulder to shoulder with Fidel Castro, Daniel Ortega and Venezuelan's roaring mouse, Hugo Chavez, who is threatening military action against Honduras.  Now, some would say this is an eclectic group - others would say, not so much - regardless, what has gotten them so upset? 


Let's start with what they say.  They are calling the ouster a "coup" and claim that Zelaya is still Honduras' rightful president.  Some of them say we must support democracy.  But they have said little, if anything, about the rule of law.  And most of what they have said is wrong.  

First, it doesn't appear that Sunday's ouster was a military coup but a law enforcement action.  It is not a military strongman who sought extra-legal control, but Zelaya himself.  Here is the story.        

Zelaya is a leftist, a less precocious version of Chavez, sort of like the Venezuelan's Mini-me.  And, like Chavez, it's seems that Zelaya was bent on perpetuating his rule and increasing his power in defiance of the rule of law.  That is to say, the Honduran Constitution limits presidents to one four-year term, and this wasn't quite enough to satisfy Zelaya's ambitions.  So he sought to amend the constitution, which may sound okay, except for one minor detail.  Mary Anastasia O'Grady in the Wall Street Journal explains:

While Honduran law allows for a constitutional rewrite, the power to open that door does not lie with the president. A constituent assembly can only be called through a national referendum approved by its Congress.

But Mr. Zelaya declared the vote on his own and had Mr. Chávez ship him the necessary ballots from Venezuela. The Supreme Court ruled his referendum unconstitutional, and it instructed the military not to carry out the logistics of the vote as it normally would do. 

The top military commander, Gen. Romeo Vásquez Velásquez, told the president that he would have to comply. Mr. Zelaya promptly fired him. The Supreme Court ordered him reinstated. Mr. Zelaya refused.

. . .  the president decided he would run the referendum himself. So on Thursday he led a mob that broke into the military installation where the ballots from Venezuela were being stored and then had his supporters distribute them in defiance of the Supreme Court's order.

However, like so many apparent megalomaniacs, Zelaya greatly overestimated his popularity.  The groundswell of citizen support he had counted on didn't materialize; thus, his law breaking could not be sanitized by consensus making.  The military then arrested him, acting under orders from legitimate civilian authorities and in defense of the rule of law.  The good guys won . . . at least for now.

Also note that the military confined itself to its prescribed police action and is not running the country.  The new president is 63-year-old Roberto Micheletti, a member of Zelaya's own Liberal Party.  Moreover, elections are still planned for this November.

Micheletti also enjoys wide support, from the rank-and-file to the those breathing rarified air in elite institutions.  As for Zelaya, while you may not be able to please all of the people all of the time, he certainly seems to have been able to displease them.  He not only alienated the Congress, Supreme Court, the people and the attorney general -- who also declared the referendum illegal and vowed to prosecute anyone facilitating it -- he is also opposed by the Catholic Church and many evangelicals.  Really, no one seems to like him.

No one, that is, but Hugo Chavez, Fidel Castro and Daniel Ortega.

Oh, and let's not forget Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.

Tell me who your friends are and I'll tell you who you are, anyone?

In fact, Obama's position is striking.  More than almost anything else -- almost anything -- this dance with the Devil reveals his true colors.  Sure, he was criticized over his handling of Iran, but even I will say there are two sides.  After all, you could make the case that overt support for the protesters would provide the clerics and President Ahmadinejad with invaluable propaganda material.  And Obama looked foolish when he paraded about the world issuing mea culpas on behalf of big bad America, but, hey, that's a reflection of the standard liberal America-as-villain narrative.  I don't think it surprised too many people.  But, as bad as Obama has been, this occupies a different realm all together.  And I think most fail to appreciate the gravity of what I will not even call a policy, but an offense.

Obama has sided with a thug, a man who -- for completely self-serving reasons -- sought to subvert his nation's constitution.  Obama has sided with a man who -- like Pancho Villa on a cross-border raid -- lead a mob in an effort to execute this illegal scheme.  And Obama does this while paying lip service to democracy, even as he imperils it; he claims to stand for freedom, even while supporting those who would extinguish it.  It is un-American.  It is ugly.  It is, in a word, evil.

Yet it doesn't surprise me.  Some may think the issue is simply that, although Obama despises Zelaya's tactics, he is driven to support a fellow traveler.  Others may think that Obama wants to support a fellow traveler and is indifferent about the tactics.  Neither is entirely correct.  In point of fact, Zelaya has certain tactics.  Obama has certain tactics.

And they are largely the same.

In fact, they are shared by virtually all leftists.

Ignoring the rule of law, manipulating the Constitution, acting as if the end justifies the means . . . .  Sound familiar?  This is standard left doctrine. 

Examining this further, let's look at two comments Obama and H. Clinton made about Honduras.  Obama said that the U.S. would "stand on the side of democracy" and Clinton said, "we have a lot of work to do to try to help the Hondurans get back on the democratic path . . . ."  These comments reflect a common theme.  There is gratuitous emphasis on democracy, but what of the rule of law?  What of recognition that, technically, Honduras and the U.S. are not democracies but constitutional republics?  We don't hear much talk about these things from liberals, and I have a theory as to why. 

Of course, such comments are often simply rhetoric, but there can be a deeper reason as well.  Democracy, in the strict sense of the word, refers to direct rule by the people.  Another way to put it is that it's rule based on the people's whims.  Now, liberals are relativists, which means they don't believe in Truth, in natural law, in anything beyond man that determines morality.  Instead, relativism involves the idea that what people once called morals are merely values, which, in turn, are just a function of a people's consensus opinion.  It then follows that the impositions of values known as civil laws cannot be based on anything outside of man, either; they also are simply a function of opinion, be it the consensus variety or that of those with clout.  In other words, liberals believe as the ancient Greek philosopher Protagoras did, that "Man is the measure of all things."

Now let's say you accept this.  When constitutional mandates, or laws, then contradict that "measure of all things," that democratic body, with which will you likely side?  This explains why liberals find it unfathomable that anyone would let "a piece of paper" stand in the way of a popular -- or politically correct -- social change.  "Why, you have to be a simpleton to let a law forestall progress!" is the idea.  And from their simplistic, shallow perspective it makes sense.  If laws originate with opinion, anyway, why would you let them stand in the way of the dominant opinion when the latter changes? 

Yet, at the end of the day, liberals aren't any more beholden to popular will than to laws, as they scoff at it when it contradicts politically-correct will.  And there is a good reason for this.  Liberals don't view democracy as an absolute because there is no such thing in a relativistic world, but they at least view it.  That is to say, they know popular will is real but believe God's will (Truth) is imaginary.  And what exists takes precedence over what doesn't.

But in a world without absolutes, what takes precedence over all?  Well, without any unchanging yardstick for making moral decisions -- without Truth to provide answers -- liberals have only one thing to refer to: Their mercurial master, feelings.  But whose feelings shall hold sway?  They may sometimes be those of the majority of people (expressed as "values"), especially insofar as their feelings influence liberals' feelings.  But, then again, the feelings might also be those of most liberals' favorite people -- and the ones they fancy the smartest -- themselves.  This is what engenders the elitism that justifies trumping popular will; after all, liberals' own feelings always feel more "right" to them than other people's. 

Put simply, it's a question of whose will shall prevail, the popular, politically correct or personal?  When man is the measure of all things, the man in the mirror usually trumps your fellow man.

Speaking of feelings, one that could be instrumental here is fear.  What I mean is, we all understand the power of precedent.  And along with Chavez, Obama seems to dislike the idea of a military upholding its nation's constitution and ousting a would-be tyrant.  I wonder why?

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TOPICS: Cuba; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bholatinamerica; clinton; honduras; lping; micheletti; obama; zelaya
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1 posted on 06/30/2009 10:42:58 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

I thought that Odumbo said during the Iran protests that the US should not interfere with another countries inner politics? This lame prez is nothing if not inconsistent, hypocritical, and leftist.


2 posted on 06/30/2009 10:47:46 PM PDT by PLKIng
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To: neverdem

Obama supports Zelaya because he is planning on employing the same tactics.


3 posted on 06/30/2009 10:48:56 PM PDT by ponygirl ("Strange things are afoot at the Circle K.")
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To: neverdem
Well said, and, I might add, it is ominous that Obama is so unapologetically showing his hand. We now KNOW with certainty now, that he is on the side of tyranny, and not on the side of the rule of law. You also see it with GM, with the takeover of the Financial Markets. The concept of Social Contracts is being taken apart, industry by industry, country by country.
4 posted on 06/30/2009 10:50:22 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: neverdem

Contract Law means nothing. Constitutions (including our own) mean nothing.


5 posted on 06/30/2009 10:51:48 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: neverdem
So on Thursday he led a mob that broke into the military installation where the ballots from Venezuela were being stored and then had his supporters distribute them in defiance of the Supreme Court's order.

This is "community organizing"

6 posted on 06/30/2009 10:52:13 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Competent small-government conservative = close enough for government work)
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To: ponygirl
Obama supports Zelaya because he is planning on employing the same tactics.

This is the crux of the matter.

7 posted on 06/30/2009 10:53:02 PM PDT by Guyin4Os (My name says Guyin40s but now I have an exotic, daring, new nickname..... Guyin50s)
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To: neverdem
It's the perfect antithesis of conservatism. Two sides are being made: Conservatism is the thesis while liberalism is the antithesis, and the controlled conflict between these two ideologies is carefully played out in a script, and when these two ideologies are combined in a synthesis (like mixing blue and red to make purple), you get fascism. The NWO regime will be fascist.
8 posted on 06/30/2009 10:54:25 PM PDT by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: neverdem

for later read


9 posted on 06/30/2009 10:55:24 PM PDT by EDINVA (A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul -- G. B. Shaw)
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To: neverdem
The Ugly Face of Liberalism

What? No one...no one...posted a picture of Helen Thomas yet?

We're slipping, folks....

10 posted on 06/30/2009 10:58:31 PM PDT by NorCoGOP (Recession: friend loses his job. Depression: You lose your job. Recovery: Obama loses his job.)
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To: myknowledge

6.24.09

For a long time now, Hondurans who have been worried about their democracy and also worried about the way in which their President Manuel Zelaya is governing, see with mistrust and, more than this, with rejection, a projected constitutional reform, under this name or another, to allow the reelection of the president. Logically, not much political cunning, is needed to realize that the president, who is fully identified with the totalitarian tyranny of Fidel Castro and with arbitrary rulers in the region, led by Hugo Chávez, is trying to subvert the State’s juridical order under a democratic guise. However, this is subversion with anti-democratic orientation.

Those in the inter-American system, rulers and ruled, who are truly interested in democracy, must watch with serious concern the course of the institutional and political events under President Zelaya. And this concern, logically, should manifest itself with sustained and reasoned rejection to avoid that the noble Honduran nation fall into the abyss of a dictatorship with evil ideological characteristics. It is fitting to clarify this, because there have been dictatorships with no ideology and that, in a way, are less harmful for the republic because they do not set norms disguised as democratic doctrines when they are, precisely, the opposite.

Not only Hondurans, but also all of the peoples of Central America, should be on guard to defend Honduras’ democracy, sounding the alarm with respect to the dictatorship that is already growing roots through numerous factors of the institutional control that its ruler has. An Executive that has the subordination and absolute political solidarity of the Legislative and the Judicial Branches, as well as of the Armed Forces, is very dangerous and, in the end, it is very hard to get rid of it. The Armed Forces, of course, are part of the Executive Power, but in the Latin American reality, they constitute a sort of separate power.

Central America is, certainly, a region with considerable geopolitical value. In its time, Lenin was very interested in it and infiltrated the political life of Central America through El Salvador and in the Caribbean through Cuba.

We have same problems from El Salavador gangs and drugs that US has from Mexico border, but Zelaya was trafiker himself, this is terrible. He refused to appear in corte many times. This is a surprise to Obama “have no information before opening mouth” but Hondurans have been expecting this and a million people in capital celebrated today. Our gol was to get US media to cover story correctly, since it show one gang of adolescentes with a burning tire and masks, this is not political it is a street gang and was not what was said. Maybe 5% of people here support Mel, to say the country is divided is like the US agrees except Hawaii, any many on camera are not Honduran citizens they had paid flight from Cuba, Honduras to be here and that is why they are on street they have no clothes to go home and to have a Venezuelan passport here now is not good for you, we not like bullfrog Chavez.

F. Villalobos, Choluteca, Hondruas, Central America

Quote above from diaradelosamericas.com


11 posted on 06/30/2009 11:01:10 PM PDT by watusa1775 (Hondurans For Democracy, no communists thank you)
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To: EDINVA

“for later read”

Me, to, Edinva


12 posted on 06/30/2009 11:02:38 PM PDT by yorkie
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To: neverdem

Excellent and concise exposition of the situation in Honduras. Thanks for posting this!


13 posted on 06/30/2009 11:03:15 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (What kind of organization answers the phone if you call a suicide hotline in Gaza City?)
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To: ponygirl
Obama supports Zelaya because he is planning on employing the same tactics.

Bingo. He needs the foreign law precedent for SCOTUS to cite.

14 posted on 06/30/2009 11:05:55 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 162 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: neverdem

Dictators of the Feather Flock Together..


15 posted on 06/30/2009 11:14:45 PM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts (There is no Far Right.. There is only Far Left.)
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To: neverdem

BTTT


16 posted on 06/30/2009 11:26:48 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: neverdem; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; ...
Ignoring the rule of law, manipulating the Constitution, acting as if the end justifies the means . . . . Sound familiar? This is standard left doctrine.



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17 posted on 06/30/2009 11:32:51 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: NorCoGOP

Well, at least to threads have a pic of her posted on them tonight, if you wish I can a link to one of them and post it for you if you just have to see her tonight!+


18 posted on 06/30/2009 11:33:00 PM PDT by calex59
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To: neverdem

What happened to the Obama Inc’s ‘no meddling’ policy? (except in Israel’s case, of course) If anti-American, terrorist promoting communist & Islamic régimes butcher, rape and pillage, that’s fine with Obama Inc, as long as it’s not too obvious to the public.


19 posted on 06/30/2009 11:40:07 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is not 'free'.)
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To: neverdem

bookmark


20 posted on 06/30/2009 11:55:55 PM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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