Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Jim Jones to US commanders in Afghanistan: WTF?
Hot Air ^ | July 2, 2009 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 07/02/2009 10:34:09 AM PDT by penelopesire

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-55 last
To: bvw

Obama and his media lap dogs are already in spin mode on this ‘leak’.


41 posted on 07/02/2009 2:59:59 PM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: xrmusn

Under a liar-in-chief (also childish-idiot-in-chief, and psychotically-detached-head-case-in-chief) a General must of necessity give a poorer grade of commands and guidance. Second guessing what a General means costs lives. But there is little to be done straight-forwardly and unambiguously until the time such a C-I-C is replaced.

Under an Obama or a Clinton — under all mendacious and/or emotionally unstable leaders every command is weakened and confusions develop. Why? Because the authority and integrity of all command is rooted in the highest commander. There is no getting around it.

The German General staff under Hitler’s emotional instability scrambled to work around him, as recently made public actually made secret overtures for a ceasefire to the Allies, and in one plot attempted to assassinate him. It wasn’t because they loved peace or hated the Holocaust — it was because every responsible rational leader comes to despise and hate being subordinate to the whims and manias of the morally insane or emotionally unstable.

In our more tolerant of variance and individually independent American military history we may deal with the issue differently, but the feelings are the same towards such a commander. But still, the MINIMUM reaction that will happen is what I said — a weakening of the force of command (for it relies on trust and integrity) and an increase in these kind of cloudy statements, which are not straightforward.

G-d help our troops.


42 posted on 07/02/2009 3:16:58 PM PDT by bvw
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: bvw
. It can be read to say there is no legit president, but we have to play along right now.

My advice to you is don't play with sharp things, might hurt yourself.

43 posted on 07/02/2009 4:42:46 PM PDT by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: MilspecRob

Thank you.


44 posted on 07/02/2009 5:27:25 PM PDT by bvw
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: STARWISE

Great photo! Thank you.


45 posted on 07/02/2009 8:04:45 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: ViLaLuz

;)


46 posted on 07/02/2009 8:46:46 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: MilspecRob

I thanked you, know I would like to reflect upon and consider your sage advice. Yet I am stymied. What exactly are you saying? Is that fogspeak advice you gave? That would explain it. Just like any General would have to use under a mendacious or treasonous CIC.


47 posted on 07/03/2009 8:19:59 AM PDT by bvw
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: penelopesire

Wasn’t there severe criticism of Donald Rumsfeld because he tried to do things “on the cheap” and “without overwhelming force” ala the Powell Doctrine?

Or am I missing something here?


48 posted on 07/03/2009 8:34:32 AM PDT by paulycy (Liberal DOUBLE-STANDARDS are HATE crimes.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: theknuckler_33
I'll reserve judgment on this until Obama actually declines to send more troops that were actually requested.

From linked article: Woodward goes on to repeat the strategic mantra, ”security, economic development and reconstruction.” The mission statement: ”Killing the enemy is secondary.” The generals may think they need up to 32,000 more troops in addition to the 68,000 already authorized, but … WTF? Jones tells jarhead commanders in Afghanistan: “The piece of the strategy that has to work in the next year is economic development.”

Do you really think President pantywaist is going to authorize 32,000 more troops?

As far as the Taliban is concerned I'm sure they are very happy to see the ”Killing the enemy is secondary.” is a ROE. They must be s***faced happy as a virgin goat to know they are not a target

49 posted on 07/03/2009 8:40:03 AM PDT by Popman (Joe Biden REALLY can't be Vice President, can he ?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: paulycy

What does Rumsfield trying to reduce costs have to do with Obama signaling, through this lackey, that he doesn’t want the advice of the military on the ground?

President Bush wanted the advice of the military and took it on most occasions. This new Obama clown is telling the military not to offer advice, even in the heat of battle, because the new CIC doesn’t want to hear it. Big difference.

Also of big note is the fact that Obama has changed the rules of engagement to favor our enemies. If you can’t see that that is a dramatic turn of events and war planning you are indeed uninformed.


50 posted on 07/03/2009 9:07:23 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]

To: penelopesire
If you can’t see that that is a dramatic turn of events and war planning you are indeed uninformed.

I am often uninformed. That's why I ask questions. Thanks for your answer.

51 posted on 07/03/2009 9:39:31 AM PDT by paulycy (Liberal DOUBLE-STANDARDS are HATE crimes.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 50 | View Replies]

To: paulycy

We all learn on this forum..that’s why it is a great place. I can’t tell you how much I have learned from my fellow freepers...there isn’t enough time in the day or space in this forum to do it.

Have a nice 4th!


52 posted on 07/03/2009 9:51:01 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]

To: penelopesire

:0)


53 posted on 07/03/2009 9:53:02 AM PDT by paulycy (Liberal DOUBLE-STANDARDS are HATE crimes.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 52 | View Replies]

To: dervish
Gen Jim Jones carrying water for the anti-military left.

Don't you mean "carrying Kool-Aid"?

54 posted on 07/03/2009 9:58:11 AM PDT by dfwgator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: penelopesire

Nothing like hanging them out to dry as if they have enough to worry about like their brethern next to them. Prayers for every single soldier and ally of our great nation at war. This isn’t Bush’s war, nor Obama’s, this was islam from the beginning...Obama should take note and quit kissing the house of Fudd’s six.


55 posted on 07/03/2009 2:57:54 PM PDT by Karliner (Things are more like they are now than they have ever been before. DDE)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-55 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson