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My Time on DU and the Honduras Situation

Posted on 07/03/2009 6:46:26 PM PDT by big black dog

I signed up on DU and tried to intelligently discuss the Honduras situation. You can't start threads there as a new sign up, so I looked for threads that had already been started up and tried to comment. I simply pointed out the facts. These threads were pretty much avoided until I commented, but then the comments came flooding in.

These is a synopsis of the responses I got:

(mostly from leftist articles and not original thought)

-- The actions by Zelaya were technically not in violation of the Honduran Constitution because they did not explicitly call for an extension of term limits (never mind that that every other branch of Honduran government, including Zelaya's own Party knew what was going on).

-- The OAS, the USA, and European governments support Zelaya (what can you say, they are right)

I guess it doesn't matter that every sector of Honduran government and the Honduran people oppose Zelaya.

Honduras is standing its ground. Will anybody stand up for them.? Evan the Conservative members of the OAU like Colombia have turned their back on them.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: du; honduras; zelaya

1 posted on 07/03/2009 6:46:26 PM PDT by big black dog
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To: big black dog

These puppies wouldn’t save their own skins if it came to it....like their leader 0buma...traitors and cowards to freedom.


2 posted on 07/03/2009 6:50:05 PM PDT by Dallas59 ("You know the one with the big ears? He might be yours, but he ain't my president.")
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To: big black dog
I signed up on DU and tried to intelligently discuss the Honduras situation... I simply pointed out the facts.

That was your first mistake. The left isn't interested in facts; only agenda. And the left's agenda is anti-democracy. They don't want to hear facts, common sense or reality. They only want what they want when they want it. And if you disagree, then goodbye.

BTW, welcome to FR.

3 posted on 07/03/2009 6:50:52 PM PDT by bcsco (I'm a Constitution defender!)
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To: big black dog

I tried subterfuge there once. I told one of their posters who said he was in the National Guard or something and he claimed on some authority some stuff that was an obvious lie to me, a 14 year veteran of the Army. I called him out on it and got promptly banned. In short don’t make your first post their calling out another poster for obvious falsehoods.


4 posted on 07/03/2009 6:51:28 PM PDT by aft_lizard (One animal actually eats its own brains to conserve energy, we call them liberals.)
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To: big black dog

Somebody posted here the other day that Uribe of Columbia is trying to pull the same crap Zelaya tried to pull. Dictator for life. This seems to be going around in the Marxist circles. The same ones Obama travels in.


5 posted on 07/03/2009 6:52:32 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Hey America! How's that "hope and change" thing working out?)
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To: big black dog

Thinking is too hard for those clowns. Many of us here have been reading up on the laws and constitution of Honduras and find that Zelaya was in clear violation.


6 posted on 07/03/2009 6:53:27 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: aft_lizard

I have an entire army of puppets at DU, including one that is a moderator.

When you know how they tick (and just how SCREWED UP their brains are) you can play them like a Stradivarius.


7 posted on 07/03/2009 6:53:41 PM PDT by Crazieman (Feb 7, 2008 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966675/posts?page=28#28)
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To: big black dog
If and when the whole house of cards comes tumbling down, it'll rain down on them as well as us. But, they'll be mewling and whining "but we didn't know."

They're really that stupid over there, on the whole. Then you have the few who really do know what's going on, though. That's another matter. Vile nihilsts. In love with death.

8 posted on 07/03/2009 6:54:58 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: big black dog

Oh BTW, I was shortly summarily banned from the site.

Here you’ve got one little poor nation simply trying to preserve its democracy having to fight the whole world.


9 posted on 07/03/2009 6:55:58 PM PDT by big black dog
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To: big black dog
"I signed up on DU and tried to intelligently discuss ....."

Oh my.

10 posted on 07/03/2009 6:56:39 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("A new Dark Ages made all the more terrible and prolonged by the sinister powers of science.")
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To: big black dog

Colombia’s entire future depends on our trade. Uribe’s hands are tied and Obama knows it.


11 posted on 07/03/2009 6:59:25 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: bcsco

“BTW, welcome to FR.”
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He/she has been here for a year already...


12 posted on 07/03/2009 7:00:54 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th
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To: big black dog

Have you taken a shower yet?


13 posted on 07/03/2009 7:05:06 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: big black dog

This is a preview of what is going to happen to Obama. The “world” doesn’t like it and wants to head it off at the pass. Too bad. They haven’t seen a military “coup” until they see Obama removed from “office”. It will not be pretty.


14 posted on 07/03/2009 7:10:27 PM PDT by whereasandsoforth (Stamp out liberals with the big boot of truth)
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To: Dallas59

A liberal is a man too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel. (Robert Frost)


15 posted on 07/03/2009 7:14:17 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: big black dog
Honduras is standing its ground. Will anybody stand up for them.?

Bottom line WE have to stand up

Solidarity with the Honduran people

needs be part of every one of July 4th Tea Party protest...


16 posted on 07/03/2009 7:15:14 PM PDT by tophat9000 ( We are "O" so f---ed)
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To: big black dog

I once read a thread over at DU where one of the guys claimed that he doesn’t like Obama because, can you guess before the end of this sentence, he is too moderate. He thought that the health “care” reform was too right wing as it would leave it legal to have private insurers.


17 posted on 07/03/2009 7:16:15 PM PDT by ronnietherocket2
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To: big black dog

I lasted a day at that site about five years ago. I posted a few comments about that communist Italian whackjob “reporter” who got her bodyguard killed by US troops after she had him blow a checkpoint. I got the tombstone real quick.

That site (which, by the way I wasn’t aware still existed) is for children.


18 posted on 07/03/2009 7:17:59 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: PJ-Comix

Fun in the ant farm


19 posted on 07/03/2009 7:19:36 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: big black dog

I don’t understand why you would go over there. It’s a hate filled insane asylum.


20 posted on 07/03/2009 7:19:40 PM PDT by Selene
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To: big black dog

As someone who spent years marginalizing liberal websites with crazy posts and comments, let me give you some advice.

1. Forget reason. Most of the posters are there for emotional support for each other. This is why they have so many emoticons.

2. Work your way into their confidence slowly. Only after you have been there for a while can you disagree, and even then you have to be careful.

3. If you can not change their minds logically, steel yourself to reduce their harm by trivializing and marginalizing them. Outrageous sentiments are ok, but only after you have a track record and you do it with emotion.

4. You can say nearly anything about a conservative, but tread softly on BO, Hillary, unless it to accuse them of not being as mean and vicious as the rightwing.

Outside of that, do not go to these websites because you will not encounter much rational thought or good debate. If you want to explore liberal thought, try the Nation or Salon. Most articles are better written and you can see where they are coming from without experiencing the frustration of utter idiocy of some of these knuckleheads.

That is why I like FR. I agree with most conservative principles except in the economic sphere. There I tend to go a little more toward the “progressive”, but most of the time I get rational discussion.

parsy, who feels your pain. (sad face emoticon)


21 posted on 07/03/2009 7:23:33 PM PDT by parsifal ("Knock and ye shall receive!" (The Bible, somewhere.))
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To: big black dog
You cannot discuss any item rationally with persons whom believe Fidel Castro, Daniel Ortega, and Hugo Chavez to be enlightened despots. They disregard the many thousands that Fidel literally lined up against Cuban walls and shot, for “crimes” against the revolution simply because they were civil servants for Baptista and see this slaughter not as murder but as justified.
Incidentally, my parents were in Cuba in 1959 when it was a tourist mecca; and, yes, Baptista was a crook in bed with the mafia but he was a heck of a lot better than what they have now--ask any Cuban-American whose family happened to experience both regimes.

DUmmies have also boosted dictators such as Stalin (who actually killed more innocent people than did Hitler) and even thugs such as Robert Mugabe. I tried to join DU for reasonable discussion about five years ago about Castro and lasted all of one day...most of their reponsive are replete with the word f*ck, simply because they don't possess the intelligence to think of any other word to illustrate their points.

22 posted on 07/03/2009 7:33:33 PM PDT by meandog (Doh!)
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To: meandog

>>> DUmmies have also boosted dictators such as Stalin ... and even thugs such as Robert Mugabe. <<<<

Pol Pot.

Ho Chi Minh.


23 posted on 07/03/2009 7:44:31 PM PDT by angkor
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To: Lancey Howard
That site (which, by the way I wasn’t aware still existed) is NOT for children.

The language that flows from the demented souls is horrendous. Yes, go take a shower.
24 posted on 07/03/2009 8:01:57 PM PDT by RushingWater
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To: big black dog
The actions by Zelaya were technically not in violation of the Honduran Constitution because they did not explicitly call for an extension of term limits...

That was their only point and it is flat wrong.

25 posted on 07/03/2009 8:17:24 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama: "I can see Mecca from the WH portico." --- Google - Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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To: big black dog

i was a member of d.u. early in 2001 after the election. i found back then that the dems were still diverse. they hated my views and opinions yet they allowed me to remain for quite awhile. it was after they attempted to diminish my role and make me conform to their stupid exceptions aimed only at me that i refused to remain. some folks were civil and some were pointlessly inane and insulting. nothing unexpected really.


26 posted on 07/03/2009 8:31:20 PM PDT by lonster
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To: big black dog

If you did not use the “F” word at least once in the first paragraph, you’re not going to pass yourself off as one of them.


27 posted on 07/03/2009 8:44:41 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: big black dog
“Honduras is standing its ground. Will anybody stand up for them.?”
Now Chili is pushing them around. I intend to boycott all products from Chili Ecuador Argentina Venezuela

If they can't stand up for freedom and the rule of law, I refuse to support them in any way.

28 posted on 07/03/2009 8:53:47 PM PDT by Selene
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To: big black dog

There is a common thread to Obama’s actions.

He likes/supports Chavez.

He likes/supports the Castro bro’s.

He favors returning Zelaya to power.

He is pretty quiet regarding the resistance in Iran.

Obviously, Obama wants freedom to fail; we see that in his actions in the U.S. - he takes actions, time and again, which restrict freedom of action of the average person. His tax policies, trade policies and all other policies restrict freedom, none of them enhance freedom. Obama is a Communist!


29 posted on 07/03/2009 9:01:46 PM PDT by Rembrandt
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To: big black dog

EEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWW

go take a shower and scrub your fingers !


30 posted on 07/03/2009 9:11:29 PM PDT by mike_9958
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To: big black dog

It’s a total waste of time to try to hold an intelligent discussion with people who have no intelligence.

Comments contrary to the leftist view are prohibited there, as are posters.


31 posted on 07/03/2009 11:22:58 PM PDT by DakotaRed (What happened to the country I fought for?)
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To: DakotaRed

One site, HUFF popo something, ban me, say I know nothing. I am in Choluteca Honduras. I know nothing about Honduras. Nobody on site ever been to Honduras. We hate Chavez. People run out of places to run if too many countries try be dictator the president, revolution HAVE to happen. Not all family, middle or rich can go to other country if all country communist, this is plan by who? Obama, where you go if you want be free? You get in boat for Canada or where? We celebrate today be free from Ze Liar, Mel Go To Hell, we want American base stay, American business. We not want more Chinese here, they mean mean people. We need other country to make trade with and travel and exchange.


32 posted on 07/03/2009 11:49:44 PM PDT by watusa1775 (Obama, Chavez, Morales, Ortega, Castro, Noriega, Putin, Adminjad, Jung, all bad men)
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To: watusa1775
Our government leaders may not stand with you, but many of our citizens do stand with you.

Tiny Honduras Stands Alone For Freedom and Democracy

33 posted on 07/04/2009 1:11:12 AM PDT by DakotaRed (What happened to the country I fought for?)
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To: Repeal The 17th

That’s what happens when you’re sleepy when typing...


34 posted on 07/04/2009 6:17:24 AM PDT by bcsco (I'm a Constitution defender!)
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To: big black dog

I go to DU only to read threads about topics that I know infuriate them ... because I love watching them squirm.


35 posted on 07/04/2009 10:45:41 AM PDT by matt1234
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