Huge CO2 Emissions Disagreement Between EPA and Energy Dept. Ignored by MSM

NewsBusters ^ | July 8, 2009 | P.J. Gladnick

[PJ-Comix]

The mainstream media loves to tell the public about how "unreliable" the blogosphere is as an information source. However, there is a huge story out there that is only being covered by the blogosphere, in particular at Watts Up With That?, which is currently being completely ignored by the MSM.

It is about a significant disagreement between the Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Lisa Jackson and Energy Secretary Steven Chu over the amount of worldwide CO2 emissions if the United States acts alone should a climate bill pass in both Houses of Congress. Basically EPA's Jackson says that such a bill, if passed, would have very little effect on global CO2 emissions while Chu disagrees with that assessment.

You can see the EPA chart below the fold followed by the transcript of a video of both these Obama administration officials responding at complete odds with each other under questioning from Oklahoma Senator Jim Inhofe at the Senate hearing yesterday on a climate bill:

[PJ-Comix]

A free oatmeal cookie to the first MSM reporter who dares to do this story about the fact there will be almost NO payoff in terms of global CO2 emission reductions in exchange for humongous taxes headed our way.

[PJ-Comix]

PING!

[editor-surveyor]

Reporting the truth on enviro-wackoism is considered Jello Journalism: Its like nailing jello to the wall!

[nathanbedford]

Would that the Republicans had the wit to exploit this absolutely devastating admission by the head of the EPA.

If the cooperation of China and India is necessary to make Cap and Trade an effective tool against global warming, and those nations have already stated they will not cooperate, then America must tax its citizens heavily to no purpose or it must impose draconian tariffs on Indian and Chinese imports at risk of thrusting the world to a huge depression reminiscent of the effects of the Smoot-Hawley tariff which cast the world into the great depression.

The administration's position on Cap and Trade is utterly untenable under these circumstances. Where the hell are the Republicans and the coal industry and the oil industry? We need Harry and Louise television ads exploiting this.

I am not sanguine.

[editor-surveyor]

Crap and Tax lies!

[steelyourfaith]

 

Beam me to Planet Gore !

[dennisw]

Lisa Jackson and Energy Secretary Steven Chu ........

Two 0-bot stooges duking it out. Chu is a clueless poobah. Very high IQ but vicious to the average American who will become a beggar under cap n trade and “free ObamaCare”

[E.G.C.]

BTTT

[PJ-Comix]

I wonder how long it will be before Lisa Jackson will have to offer a retraction to her own statement...and EPA chart?

As it says at the conclusion of the article, the MSM is concentrating its attention on the WRONG Jackson.

[PJ-Comix]

A correction on the story. Fox News did cover this story. You can watch HERE.

[BuckeyeTexan]

I predict that Jake Tapper will begin asking about it. He’s trying make a name for himself at ABC.

[PJ-Comix]

Also John Stossel.

[alloysteel]

Totally false postulate to begin with:

Despite rulings to the contrary, carbon dioxide is NOT a pollutant, and attempts to picture the substance as being so, are either displaying willful ignorance, or knowingly propagating a falsehood. Carbon dioxide is so bound up in our very life processes, it cannot ever be disentangled. We are a carbon-based life form, for cat’s sake, and plants NEED carbon dioxide to even exist. Carbon dioxide is an essential part of the life cycle of all humanity, the entire animal kingdom, the entire plant kingdom and a great many inorganic reactions that take place in the earth’s crust, oceans, atmosphere, and the interior of the planet, and MUST be preserved at all costs.

Besides that, the REAL engine behind “climate change” is the effect of solar radiation on the hydrosphere that covers some 70% of the earth’s surface.

Water vapor is from some twenty to over 100 times as potent a “greenhouse gas” as carbon dioxide could ever be. And it would be totally pointless to regulate water vapor.

Carbon dioxide (CO2): CO2 is produced naturally by living organisms and by the burning of fossil fuels. Carbon accounts for the largest share of US greenhouse gas emissions. In 1990, the CO2 emissions were approximately 85% of the total, although the carbon sinks in forested lands offset CO2 emissions by about 8%. Worldwide carbon emissions have grown by about 27% since the industrial revolution.

Nitrous Oxide (N2O): Naturally occurring, N2O is produced by fuel burning and in fertilizer manufacturing. In 1990, N2O accounted for about 2.5% of US emissions. Global Warming Potential (GWP): 310 times greater than CO2.

Methane: Methane comes from coal formations and from landfills, livestock digestive processes, decomposing waste, and wetland rice cultivation. In 1990, methane accounted for almost 12% of the US total emissions. Global warming potential: About 21 times higher than that of CO2.

Hydrofluorocarbon gases (HFC): These gases were developed largely as an alternative to ozone-damaging chlorofluorocarbons (CFC) banned under the 1987 Montreal Protocol. HFCs do not damage the ozone layer, but they do contribute to global warming. They are used largely in refrigeration and as in semi-conductor manufacturing. Global warming potential: 140 to 11,700 times that of CO2.

Perfluorocarbons (PFC): Result as a by-product aluminum smelting, and uranium enriching. Also are manufactured to replace CFCs in making semi-conductors. Global warming potential: 7,400 times CO2.

Sulphur Hexafluoride (SF6): Largely used in heavy industry to insulate high-voltage equipment and to assist the manufacturing of cable cooling systems. Global warming potential: 23,900 times that of CO2.

Sources: U.S. Energy Information Agency, International Energy Agency, Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

Nitrous Oxides (NOx) are highly soluble in the water vapor, and are washed to earth as various forms of nitrous acid, nitric acid and simply dissolved in the raindrops. And it is all extremely dilute, combining with elements in the soil to form the very vital nitrates and nitrites that are the basis of formation of protein in living tissue.

Methane comes up as a burp from decaying organic matter. It is minimally soluable in water, and under the right conditions of temperature and pressure, forms an unusual compound called Methane Hydrate, in which some 166 volumes of methane are held in a matrix of water molecules, and reduced down to one volume. This substance occurs naturally at ocean depths of greater than 1,000 feet where the temperature is a steady 38 degrees F, it is slightly heaver than water, and simply accumulates on the continental shelf around the planet, just lying there as nuggets in the ooze.

The hydrofluorocarbon, perfluorocarbon, and sulfur hexafluoride gases are extremely insignificant in comparison to the other gases in the atmosphere, as we are talking about parts per BILLION, or even parts per TRILLION. These are only noticed because there are extremely sensitive intruments to measure them. Even near points of formation, the atmospheric concentration is very low, and they tend to lie very close to the surface of the earth, and eventually break down.

[freekitty]

They are all lies.

It’s time to bring Sarah Palin on.