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Obama's hand over heart for Russian national anthem, not US?
americanthinker.com ^ | July 08, 2009 | Thomas Lifson

Posted on 07/08/2009 1:25:38 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

Can this possibly be true? An anti-Obama website, The Obama File, posts a photograph purporting to show President Obama putting his hand over his heart during the playing of the Russian national anthem, during his visit to Moscow.

How can it possibly be a genuine photograph, when we know that the President didn't put his hand over his heart during the playing of the American national anthem, as demonstrated in this now-infamous photograph taken during the campaign?

Please, let the purported Moscow photograph be a fake. Or, even better, someone point me to the time when President Obama noted that he has reconsidered putting his hand over his heart for our national anthem.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: agenda; bho44; bhorussia; democrat; democrats; fubo; impeachobama; nationalanthem; obama; obamatruthfile
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To: kabar
HOW STUPID IS THIS GUY?

Stupid enough to bow to the Saudi king...

41 posted on 07/08/2009 2:31:39 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: wideminded; SunkenCiv

Turns out it was taken during the playing of the American National Anthem.


42 posted on 07/08/2009 2:40:48 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (To view the FR@Alabama ping list, click on my profile!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

The strange thing about obi-one not having his hand over his heart is that he does appear to be singing our National Anthem. Check out the video. It’s a bit blurry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjwX_V34Z5g

It is most noticeable from “oh, say does... “ to the end.


43 posted on 07/08/2009 3:21:43 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ( Obama, you're off the island!)
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To: coconutt2000

HOW STUPID IS THIS GUY?


Sorry, the real question is: how stupid are the people who elected him? And will continue to support him regardless of this type of behavior? The answer is pretty stupid, if they really care about America. If you hate America, then they are pretty smart.

If the situation weren’t so real, I’d think it was a parody.


44 posted on 07/08/2009 3:22:24 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: rbg81
If the situation weren’t so real, I’d think it was a parody.

The problem is that Obama is a real life parody of an American. The stupid and ridiculous things he says and does are in such stark contrast to how people perceive him (smart and suave) that they think we're making things up to make him look bad.

The most common response to my attempts to inform people about Obama's sordid past and connections to unsavory characters is, "If that's true how come we haven't all heard about it?" Between the MSM burying Bad News About Barry and Barry's proactive management of his "image" by his marketing staff people are totally unaware how badly they've been lied to and since they've become emotionally invested in Obama's mythos they regard all attempts to show them the truth as "Right Wing Fabrications".

The Left has won a great victory over the Right, and the Right has squandered our chance to counter them because we spend more time fighting each other than we do combatting the Left.

45 posted on 07/08/2009 3:53:19 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Maybe he thought they actually did change the lyrics to “All hail the Messiah, Obama, Obama...”


46 posted on 07/08/2009 3:58:25 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I hate that SOB, his witch and his spawns from hell!!


47 posted on 07/08/2009 3:59:14 PM PDT by RoseofTexas (sORRY)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Funny he had his hand over his heart then. ;’)


48 posted on 07/08/2009 5:23:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: SAJ; SOLTC
It isn't 13 whole notes, it's only 12. An octave and a perfect fourth. The "thirteen notes" (unlucky?) and the "octave and a half" have been bandied about the internet for several weeks, since a couple of ill-informed columnists wrote columns on "Get Rid of the Star Spangled Banner".

And the tune is not outside most people's vocal range. Even garden-variety mezzos and contraltos have almost two octaves, and a soprano is expected to have over two. I'm just an old church choir singer with zero formal training and I have two octaves and a sixth (C3-A5) when I'm not even warmed up (I just went and checked). Anybody who can sing at all can cover an octave and a fourth with no trouble. Borrow a piano and try it yourself.

The whole trick with the SSB is where you start. People tend to set the first note in the middle of their range, but the tune starts low. If you hum the third note to yourself at the absolute bottom of your range and back up a third to begin, you'll find you don't run out of room at the top.

As for the merit of the tune, jettisoning almost 200 years of history and heroism because we think we could find a better tune is just silly.

My thanks to SOLTC for the following:

Here are my reasons why it should stay.
1. Go to Fort McHenry and hear the NPS guides tell the story. It’s about a free people defending their home.
2. If you are at a ceremony where several anthems are played, you will realize how majestic ours is.
3. Those words are a challenge to us from all who created, built, and defended the country. Does it still wave?
4. Have you ever heard of Capt. Humbert Roque “Rocky” Versace, 5th SFGA? He was awarded the MOH on 12/21/01. He was executed by the Viet Cong in 1965. He sang the Anthem when ever he could, even when they beat him into the ground.

Our Anthem is special!


49 posted on 07/08/2009 6:06:20 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Right Wing Assault

I see You Tube is now censored. So it begins. I wondered how long it would take before the odumbo team accomplished that. I know it drove the manbeast michel crazy when they used the n word on there. I’m sure Odumbo got tired of being called a fag too.


50 posted on 07/08/2009 6:10:37 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: All

As a Boston Bruins fan for many years, I always thought Rene Rancourt did a rousing job with O Canada!

That said, I enjoy the Soviet National Anthem musically, though I detest what it stood for. But it is a very emotional piece of music.

But to me, nothing beats a well played Star Spangled Banner. One of my favorite versions is the one from the movie “Poltergeist”.

Funny story about that one...”Poltergeist” came out in 1982, and I went to see it in a theater with a bunch of friends. Now, the movie starts out with a completely black screen, so the theater is pitch black. And long before anything shows up on the screen when the movie starts, this beautiful version of the national anthem begins at a pretty good volume.

Now, I grew up as a military brat, and had just got out of the navy a couple of years before, and my muscles started twitching.

On the bases I lived and served at, they began every movie by playing the national anthem and everyone in the theater would stand up. So here I was, completely baffled, having never done this in a civilian theater, and my knees kept trying to involuntarily straighten out and bring me to my feet!

I was halfway up when the screen lit up, and I could see nobody else was rising, and at that point I realized it was part of the movie...:) I am certain people would have looked at me like I was some kind of weirdo...


51 posted on 07/08/2009 6:18:47 PM PDT by rlmorel ("The Road to Serfdom" by F.A.Hayek - Read it...today.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

52 posted on 07/08/2009 6:21:24 PM PDT by rlmorel ("The Road to Serfdom" by F.A.Hayek - Read it...today.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

I do not doubt for one single second he would rather cover his heart for the Soviet national anthem than the American one.

Not an iota of doubt.


53 posted on 07/08/2009 6:22:29 PM PDT by rlmorel ("The Road to Serfdom" by F.A.Hayek - Read it...today.)
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To: Rodebrecht

Its the intro to Billy Joel’s “Leningrad”


54 posted on 07/08/2009 7:05:16 PM PDT by When do we get liberated? (They must think we are stupid. They want to be green, I want to be gault.)
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To: RoseofTexas

Leave the kids out of it, they can’t help who their parents are.


55 posted on 07/08/2009 7:10:19 PM PDT by Rodebrecht (What are you and who do you want?)
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To: AnAmericanMother

“It isn’t 13 whole notes, it’s only 12. An octave and a perfect fourth.”

Just for the record, the interval that describes the range of our National Anthem is a Perfect 12th: a compound interval comprising a Perfect octave and a Perfect fifth.

That does mean 12= 8 + 5, since the two conjunct (overlapping) intervals share a note.

“The whole trick with the SSB is where you start.”

This is true when singing alone. The key of Ab Major is the best compromise when singing in a group.


56 posted on 07/08/2009 7:51:39 PM PDT by map
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To: South40; Tailgunner Joe

You are exactly right. Russia gets a hand over heart. And what does America get? Hussein holding his johnson. What a POS!!!


57 posted on 07/08/2009 8:16:03 PM PDT by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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To: map
The Piskie hymnal (which is of course owned by heretics but was compiled by extremely competent musicians) has it in B flat major. That's very do-able in a group.

If you're way out of your range you just sing parts (that was the story for my husband for years - he sang as a child but after his voice changed he thought he couldn't sing, but he can, he's just a very deep bass).

As a 'tiefer Alt' - really a tenor in drag - the lower the better for me.

58 posted on 07/08/2009 8:24:06 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Colorado Cowgirl

I am sure that they played the US National Anthem at the ceremony.


59 posted on 07/08/2009 8:24:27 PM PDT by Chickensoup ("Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.")
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To: AnAmericanMother
OK, mom, whatever you say. I'll just stand by my experience in hearing people butcher the tune.

Perfect fourth, is it? Tell that to even such wonderful singers as Nat King Cole, who, marvelous singer that he was, butchered the tune in front of God and the nation before a World Series game in 1959.

60 posted on 07/08/2009 10:55:12 PM PDT by SAJ
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