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Swine flu shots at school: Bracing for fall return
Yahoo News ^ | July 09, 2009 | LAURAN NEERGAARD

Posted on 07/09/2009 4:55:26 PM PDT by Man50D

U.S. swine flu vaccinations could begin in October with children among the first in line — at their local schools — the Obama administration said Thursday as the president and his Cabinet urged states to figure out now how they'll tackle the virus' all-but-certain resurgence.

"We may end up averting a crisis. That's our hope," said President Barack Obama, who took time away from the G-8 summit in Italy to telephone another summit back home — the 500 state and local health officials meeting to prepare for swine flu's fall threat.

No final decision has been made on whether to vaccinate Americans, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius stressed. That depends largely on studies with experimental batches that are set to start the first week of August — to see if they're safe and seem to work and to learn whether they require one or two doses.

But if all goes well, the federal government will buy vaccine from manufacturers and share it for free among the states, which must then "try and get this in the arms of the targeted population as soon as possible," Sebelius said.

First in line probably will be school-age children, young adults with risky conditions such as asthma, pregnant women and health workers, she said. Unlike regular winter flu, the swine flu seems more dangerous to these groups than to older people.

"Schools are natural places" to offer those vaccines, Education Secretary Arne Duncan said.

Go home and get schools, mayors and other community leaders to spread that message, Sebelius said.

"The last thing we want is millions of parents to be surprised" the day the get-your-kid-vaccinated-at-school note comes home, she said.

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To: usmom; ga medic

Just so. It depends on what their motives are. If they are simply concerned about protecting the children’s health from a possibly serious flu epidemic next fall, then there should be no problem. But if Obama wants to bend the laws, as he has already done several times, as in the Chrysler and GM takeovers, then there could be difficulties.

I don’t trust him. But hopefully this is on the up and up. If he tries to push through forced immunizations of children, he could stir up a lot of resentment and political trouble for himself.


21 posted on 07/09/2009 9:11:32 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: 2Jedismom; AAABEST; aberaussie; Aggie Mama; agrace; AliVeritas; AlmaKing; AngieGal; Antoninus; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list. Articles pinged to the Another Reason to Homeschool List will be given the keyword of ARTH. (If I remember. If I forget, please feel free to add it yourself) The main Homeschool Ping List handles the homeschool-specific articles. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping list. Please freepmail metmom to let her know if you would like to be added to or removed from either list, or both.
22 posted on 07/09/2009 9:15:01 PM PDT by JenB
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To: Man50D
Vaccine May Be More Dangerous Than Swine Flu


By: Dr. Russell Blaylock
Newsmax
Tuesday, July 7, 2009
Link

An outbreak of swine flu occurred in Mexico this spring that eventually affected 4,910 Mexican citizens and resulted in 85 deaths. By the time it spread to the United States, the virus caused only mild cases of flu-like illness. Thanks to air travel and the failure of public health officials to control travel from Mexico, the virus spread worldwide. Despite predictions of massive numbers of deaths and the arrival of doomsday, the virus has remained a relatively mild disease, something we know happens each year with flu epidemics.

Worldwide, there have only been 311 deaths out of 70,893 cases of swine flu. In the United States, 27,717 cases have resulted in 127 deaths. Every death is a tragedy, but such a low death rate should not be the basis of a draconian government policy.

It is helpful to recall that the Centers for Disease Control with the collusion of the media, constantly tell us that 36,000 people die from the flu each year, a figure that has been shown to be a lie. In this case, we are talking about 300 plus deaths for the entire world.

This virus continues to be an enigma for virologists. In the April 30, 2009 issue of Nature, a virologist was quoted as saying,“Where the hell it got all these genes from we don’t know.” Extensive analysis of the virus found that it contained the original 1918 H1N1 flu virus, the avian flu virus (bird flu), and two new H3N2 virus genes from Eurasia. Debate continues over the possibility that swine flu is a genetically engineered virus.

Naturally, vaccine manufacturers have been in a competitive battle to produce the first vaccine. The main contenders have been Baxter Pharmaceuticals and Novartis Pharmaceuticals, the latter of which recently acquired the scandal-ridden Chiron vaccine company. Both of these companies have had agreements with the World Health Organization to produce a pandemic vaccine.

The Baxter vaccine, called Celvapan, has had fast track approval. It uses a new vero cell technology, which utilizes cultured cells from the African green monkey. This same animal tissue transmits a number of vaccine-contaminating viruses, including the HIV virus.

The Baxter company has been associated with two deadly scandals. The first event occurred in 2006 when hemophiliac components were contaminated with HIV virus and injected in tens of thousands of people, including thousands of children. Baxter continued to release the HIV contaminated vaccine even after the contamination was known.

The second event occurred recently when it was discovered that Baxter had released a seasonal flu vaccine containing the bird flu virus, which would have produced a real world pandemic, to 18 countries. Fortunately, astute lab workers in the Czech Republic discovered the deadly combination and blew the whistle before a worldwide disaster was unleashed.

Despite these two deadly events, WHO maintains an agreement with Baxter Pharmaceuticals to produce the world’s pandemic vaccine.

Novartis, the second contender, also has an agreement with WHO for a pandemic vaccine. Novartis appears to have won the contract, since their vaccine is near completion. What is terrifying is that these pandemic vaccines contain ingredients, called immune adjuvants that a number of studies have shown cause devastating autoimmune disorders, including rheumatoid arthritis, multiple sclerosis and lupus.

Animal studies using this adjuvant have found them to be deadly. A study using 14 guinea pigs found that when they were injected with the special adjuvant, only one animal survived. A repeat of the study found the same deadly outcome.

So, what is this deadly ingredient? It is called squalene, a type of oil. The Chiron company, maker of the deadly anthrax vaccine, makes an adjuvant called MF-59 which contains two main ingredients of concern—squalene and gp120. A number of studies have shown that squalene can trigger all of the above-mentioned autoimmune diseases when injected.

The MF-59 adjuvant has been used in several vaccines. These vaccines, including tetanus and diphtheria, are the same vaccines frequently associated with adverse reactions.

I reviewed a number of studies on this adjuvant and found something quite interesting. Several studies done on human test subjects found MF-59 to be a very safe immune adjuvant. But when I checked to see who did these studies, I found—to no surprise—that they were done by the Novartis Pharmaceutical Company and Chiron Pharmaceutical Company, which have merged. They were all published in “prestigious” medical journals. Also, to no surprise, a great number of studies done by independent laboratories and research institutions all found a strong link between MF-59 and autoimmune diseases.

Squalene in vaccines has been strongly linked to the Gulf War Syndrome. On August 1991, Anthony Principi, Secretary of Veterans Affairs admitted that soldiers vaccinated with the anthrax vaccine from 1990 to 1991 had an increased risk of 200 percent in developing the deadly disease amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS), also called Lou Gehrig’s disease. The soldiers also suffered from a number of debilitating and life-shortening diseases, such as polyarteritis nodosa, multiple sclerosis (MS), lupus, transverse myelitis (a neurological disorder caused by inflammation of the spinal cord), endocarditis (inflammation of the heart’s inner lining), optic neuritis with blindness and glomerulonephritis (a type of kidney disease).

The second ingredient, and one that greatly concerns me, is called gp120, a glycoprotein. Researchers found when it was mixed with squalene, the glycoprotein became strongly antigenic—that is, it produced a powerful and prolonged immune response to the vaccination. In fact, their studies show that with each dose, the intense immune reaction lasts over a year.

Now for the shocker—the glycoprotein-gp120, a major component of MF-59 vaccine adjuvant, is the same protein fragment isolated from the HIV virus that is responsible for the rapid dementia seen in AIDS patients.

Studies have shown that when gp120 is taken up by the microglia cells in the brain, it causes intense inflammation and makes the brain subject to excitotoxic damage—a process called immunoexcitotoxicity. This is also the cause of the MS and optic neuritis associated with vaccines that contain MF-59.

So, how would the gp120 get into the brain? Studies of other immune adjuvants using careful tracer techniques have shown that they routinely enter the brain following vaccination. What most people do not know, even the doctors who recommend the vaccines, is that most such studies by pharmaceutical companies observe the patients for only one to two weeks following vaccination—these types of reactions may take months or even years to manifest.

It is obvious that the vaccine manufacturers stand to make billions of dollars in profits from this WHO/government-promoted pandemic. Novartis, the maker of the new pandemic vaccine, recently announced that they would not give free vaccines to impoverished nations—everybody pays.

One must keep in mind that once the vaccine is injected, there is little you can do to protect yourself—at least by conventional medicine. It will mean a lifetime of crippling illness and early death.

There are much safer ways to protect oneself from this flu virus, such as higher doses of vitamin D3, selective immune enhancement using supplements, and a good diet.

23 posted on 07/09/2009 10:18:18 PM PDT by AAABEST (And the light shineth in darkness: and the darkness did not comprehend it)
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To: ga medic

Almost two years ago in Lampasas Texas. It might not have been the HiB. It was the hepatitis B shot.

She had not been vaccinated for that because she was born in 1991. The shot wasn’t routine as part of the vaccination sequence until a couple of years later. (I do know my son got it and he was born in ‘93.) Because she was homeschooled, it had never come up.

I don’t have anything against vaccines, but I do have issues with not being told. As far as the new vaccine goes, I don’t want my kids to be at the vanguard.

There’s a reason one shouldn’t buy the first model year of a new car. All the problems come out when it is released to the public.


24 posted on 07/10/2009 5:30:42 AM PDT by Marie
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To: Marie

What happened with your daughter is unbelievable. I have no doubt it was against the law, and you have a case against them. WE have laws against this kind of thing, and I would have made a big deal out of it if my child had an immunization without my approval. BTW Hepatitis B is a series, I believe. Did they continue with the rest of the series too?

As for the first year vaccine, your analogy to a car is a little flawed. The flu is a season virus, and it mutates extremely rapidly. The flu vaccine for each year is different based upon which flu is expected to be prevalent. It changes each year. Waiting is not really an option. The vaccine is usually available in the fall. By the spring, the flu season is over, and a new vaccine must be created for the next year’s strain. You have to get the flu shot when it comes out in the fall, or you shouldn’t bother to get it at all.

I have to get a flu shot as a requirement of my job. Usually my kids get it too, but not always. I haven’t ever had a problem with the shot, and no one in my family has gotten the flu in at least 10 years.


25 posted on 07/10/2009 6:21:40 AM PDT by ga medic
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To: Marie
Why you didn't bring a suit against the school is beyond me. I would have had a lawsuit at the desk of the school superintendent the next morning.
26 posted on 07/10/2009 7:17:24 AM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: Man50D
How the vaccine will work:


27 posted on 07/10/2009 7:20:06 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (I don't believe anything anyone says about anything anymore.)
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To: Marie

Are you &%$* kidding?

I would sue the hell out of them and I hate our litigious society!


28 posted on 07/10/2009 8:17:46 AM PDT by stentorian conservative (I'm tired of being Johnny B. Goode and I'm gonna start being Johnny Reb.)
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To: stentorian conservative
They're showing you their endgame hand, don't think for a second they don't have an atrocity like this in them, otherwise your trust might very well be the death of you and your families.

If any FReepers think that this whole Swine Flu episode is even remotely rational, then I'm flabbergasted.

Be vigilant people, at best you're gonna be guinea pigs, or victims of genocide at worst if you take this vaccination.
29 posted on 07/13/2009 8:18:32 AM PDT by bethybabes69 (Between you, and whatever you call God, there is no authority, only an illusion of it.)
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To: All
They're showing you their endgame hand, don't think for a second they don't have an atrocity like this in them, otherwise your trust might very well be the death of you and your families.

If any FReepers think that this whole Swine Flu episode is even remotely rational, then I'm flabbergasted.

Be vigilant people, at best you're gonna be guinea pigs, or victims of genocide at worst if you take this vaccination.
30 posted on 07/13/2009 8:19:20 AM PDT by bethybabes69 (Between you, and whatever you call God, there is no authority, only an illusion of it.)
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To: Man50D
When health care, school, or other government officials tell you that the law requires your children to receive potentially harmful, or even lethal, vaccinations (such as Hepatitis B and others), they are lying to you. Anyone who is in a position to tell you that vaccinations are required also has in his/her desk drawer the government's formal waiver form. They are required by law to lie to you and try everything to coerce you into vaccinating your children; but to allow them to do so is a violation of your civil and religious liberties. The following form is even better than the official government form, and sets forth legal reasons for you to refuse to allow your children to be vaccinated. Feel free to copy this form and reformat it as necessary for your use.

Vaccine Exemption Forms Online - by State or Country



And I'd like to know why there's a vaccination for Chicken Pox?
31 posted on 07/27/2009 12:35:51 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (The liberals are asking us to give Obama time. We agree and think 25 to life would be appropriate.)
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To: dawn53

-————Didn’t we have a swine flu vaccine last go where the cure was worse than the disease???-—————

http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2008/03/dayintech_0324

Dunno if your question has already been answered, haven’t read through the rest of the posts yet.


32 posted on 07/29/2009 3:51:51 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (Was General Cronkite the most powerful man who ever lived?)
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To: Man50D

“There was a swine flu outbreak in 1976. One died from the flu and 20 died from the vaccine.”

Pandemic! Pandemic! (Running in circles waving arms)


33 posted on 07/29/2009 8:05:16 PM PDT by dsc (The "t" in the word "often" is silent.)
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