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Bailing Out Illegals
IBD Editorials ^ | July 10, 2009

Posted on 07/10/2009 6:29:38 PM PDT by Kaslin

Illegal Immigration: As California issues IOUs to its citizens, another ballot proposition may be brewing to cut off benefits that are draining the state budget. From education to welfare to crime, the cupboard is bare.


California is a leader in both government debt and the sanctuary city movement. But as its citizens seek shelter from the economic storm, the question has arisen anew whether its non-citizens and the better life they want takes precedence over its citizens and the better life they are entitled to.

In this mother of all recessions, it's getting harder to argue that illegal aliens are here to do the jobs Americans won't do. These days there are fewer jobs Americans won't do. These days there are fewer jobs, period. It's fair to ask whether those who are going to pull the wagon of higher taxes should get to decide who rides inside.

California is now paying out about $80 million a day in unemployment insurance benefits as unemployment hovers around 11.4% and is on pace to top $1.5 billion for the month of July, Employment Development Department officials report. California's Unemployment Insurance Trust Fund ran out of money in January. The state has been borrowing from the federal government since then to make the payments.

These unemployment figures would be worse were it not for Californians leaving the state in droves. Between 2005 and 2007, some 2.14 million of them fled to other states, while only 1.44 million moved to California from other states.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Front Page News; Government; Mexico; US: California
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1 posted on 07/10/2009 6:29:38 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: bareford101; BerniesFriend; blaveda; Bookwoman; FrdmLvr; GOP_Lady; HoosierHawk; JDoutrider; KoRn; ..
Ping
2 posted on 07/10/2009 6:30:30 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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Please freep-mail me if you want to be on my IBD Editorial ping list


3 posted on 07/10/2009 6:32:36 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

Bailing Out Illegals
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Oh, if only we could...

Out of our ship of state...


4 posted on 07/10/2009 6:36:35 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Kaslin

Meanwhile a homeless Iraq war vet loses his children after a tragic accident.

http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/muskegon_county/Injured_son_girl_taken_from_campers

Thank God America has money to blow on criminal invaders.


5 posted on 07/10/2009 6:39:48 PM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Kaslin

It would be interesting to know how many illegals are now rethinking their votes for Obama.


6 posted on 07/10/2009 6:44:14 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Hey America! How's that "hope and change" thing working out?)
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To: cripplecreek

These bureaucrats are nothing but hypocrites


7 posted on 07/10/2009 6:45:34 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

This at this point, IMHO would probably win with a larger percentage than Prop 8 did. I am not in California but with the debt they are facing I can’t imagine anyone except the far left would think spending money they didn’t have on non citizen’s would be a good idea.


8 posted on 07/10/2009 6:47:41 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Kaslin

Arnold is holding the line in this budget impasse by refusing to raise taxes. I give him credit for that. He needs to use the bully pulpit to rally the voters to his side. Cutting off all aid to illegal aliens would create a lot of support.


9 posted on 07/10/2009 6:49:52 PM PDT by Judges Gone Wild (Who is this uncircumcised, to oppose the armies of The Living God?)
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To: Kaslin

Face it—even if they came to their senses and got rid of the benefits for illegals, some Federal judge or other would order them restored. Of course, if the cubboard is really bare then even a Judge’s gavel can’t make a dead horse pull a cart.


10 posted on 07/10/2009 7:35:31 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: Kaslin

Starve the beast and the parasites that live off it


11 posted on 07/10/2009 7:45:07 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Kaslin

“Illegal aliens constitute about 7% of the state’s population, or about 2.7 million, according to an April report by the Pew Hispanic Center.”

Bullpuckey!! 2.7 million; what a joke!


12 posted on 07/10/2009 7:58:23 PM PDT by acoulterfan
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To: Kaslin
.. and the bureaucrats going to bat for the ILLEGAL aliens are facing a twenty percent cut in their salaries -- already they are forced to take three days a month off, with four days off coming or a five percent pay cut. If Schwatzenkennedy has his way, not likely IMO.
13 posted on 07/10/2009 8:00:49 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

well, if they are rethinking obamanation, I’m rethinking them!


14 posted on 07/10/2009 8:04:19 PM PDT by bareford101 (obamanation's United States of Wonderland, but God still holds the reins)
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To: acoulterfan
Eliiminate illegal immigration to eliminate state deficit

Snippets: California, the CBO noted, incurs the highest costs from illegal immigration, ranging in the “tens of billions of dollars.” Moreover, the report stated: “The tax revenues that unauthorized immigrants generate for state and local governments do not offset the total cost of services provided to those immigrants.”

California is home to about 25 percent of the nation’s illegal population and illegal immigrants comprise about 8 percent of California’s population. Clearly, illegal immigration impacts the state’s pocketbook.

15 posted on 07/10/2009 8:25:49 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: calcowgirl; SierraWasp; ElkGroveDan; doug from upland

California dreaming...


16 posted on 07/10/2009 8:29:53 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (The McCain/Palin ticket was like a Kangaroo, stronger on the bottom than at the top)
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To: cripplecreek

Story has been updated and it ain’t pretty.

http://www.mlive.com/news/muskegon/index.ssf/2009/07/authorities_sort_through_past.html


17 posted on 07/10/2009 8:49:59 PM PDT by panthermom
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To: Kaslin

....shakes head. What do you want me to say?

We know what the problem is: illegals vote liberal Democrat.

So open your wallet America. Illegals are staying. :)


18 posted on 07/10/2009 9:35:41 PM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: Kaslin
ILLEGALS are laughing all the way to the bank at YOUR expense!

It's no wonder ILLEGALS look DOWN on YOU.

It's no wonder ILLEGALS have an “attitude”.

ILLEGALS think LEGAL Californians are IDIOTS.

19 posted on 07/10/2009 10:23:34 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Heck no!

They have nothing to lose and everything to gain.

“Free” health care.

“Free” education.

Jobs that should go to LEGAL citizens.

“Bilingual” classes for their kids.

ILLEGALS don't pay taxes - MOST of them do NOT pay taxes so why should they be upset with Obama? They're not be deported. Our borders are open. We provide them “sanctuary cities” and “sanctuary churches”. It's business or crime as usual at YOUR expense. They LAUGH at you - footing their bill and “protecting” their ILLEGAL status.

20 posted on 07/10/2009 10:26:51 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: acoulterfan

That’s way UNDER COUNTED!


21 posted on 07/10/2009 10:27:20 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh

They way underestimate the cost of educating the illegals.
First..you need to add in the kids of illegals that are citizens. The anchor babies. They shouldn’t be here.
Next..the illegals and anchor babies constitute more than half the kids being bused at great expense and those getting extra education help for language and other disabilities. They simply cost about double what a normal kids costs our schools.


22 posted on 07/10/2009 10:34:48 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Oldexpat

Yeah and they typically don’t speak the language.

They pull other kids down.

That issue is one the U.S.S.C. allowed to happen all over.
The ruling was totally misguided. The U.S. is constantly being exploited. yes, we are a generous and compassionate country. Now we are being used and abused. People are taking advantage of us and coming here for all the wrong reasons - ILLEGALLY.


23 posted on 07/10/2009 10:45:21 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Kaslin

Prop 187 was passed by the citizens of California prohibiting the use of tax dollars to support illegal aliens. The 9th Circus slapped it down saying that it was in violation of the equal protection clause.


25 posted on 07/11/2009 12:09:33 AM PDT by rbbeachkid (The ONLY ones able to fix the economy - Small Business Owners!)
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To: Kaslin

One has to really wonder how many Islamic and communist sleepers, moles and agents are sneaking in along with the regular collections of illegal aliens seeking jobs.


26 posted on 07/11/2009 1:38:46 AM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is not 'free'.)
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To: SpineSurgeon

Yes, Mexico’s ILLEGAL immigration laws are startling. They are TOUGH and the ENFORCE them. We are such a JOKE. It’s no wonder immigrants from Mexico keep coming for all the freebies and LAUGH at U.S..


27 posted on 07/11/2009 10:17:08 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Kaslin

Maybe the time has come to RENOUNCE our US citizenship, so we too would have full illegal rights, and thus be on a level playing field with THEM.


28 posted on 07/11/2009 10:21:59 AM PDT by 2harddrive (then)
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To: SpineSurgeon
WRONG!

ENFORCE EXISITNG ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT LAWS.

STOP, this law after NEW law business.

ENFORCE the laws on the books now.

NO health care, no education or other government hand outs be given to ILLEGALS. Make it you MUST have provable citizenship for school, education, housing and earning a living here. Use fingerprints, retina scan or social security numbers - or all three. Get tough on our borders and STOP them.

At this point, I don't care if they plant mine fields on our border to keep ILLEGALS OUT.

We already have LAWS that make ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION -

ILLEGAL!

For those that sneak in, DEPORT THEM at the EXPENSE of the ILLEGAL. Take away their assets and deduct that from the cost of DEPORTING them. Send the whole FAMILY BACK.

STOP the “anchor babies” by NOT giving them citizenship. Other countries have stopped that because these laws are ABUSED.

WAKE UP!

31 posted on 07/11/2009 10:49:59 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: SpineSurgeon

BTW I like your write-up of my opinion better.

You were more thorough in saying what I wanted to say.

I am so dam mad at what is going on.


32 posted on 07/11/2009 10:51:08 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Kaslin

Thanks again for the Pings...


33 posted on 07/11/2009 12:42:21 PM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: JDoutrider

Youu are welcome


34 posted on 07/11/2009 2:32:41 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for 0bama: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: chris_bdba

I can think of loads of Republicans who are willing to spend California into bankruptcy before they would risk “alienatating the hispanic vote’ by deporting illegals or cutting them off from government benefits.

It wasn’t just the hard left and the Aztlan racists fighting against Prop 187, it was also elites in the Republican party. One used to call the Minutemen “vigilantes” and spouted insulting nonsense like “jobs Americans won’t do”.


35 posted on 07/11/2009 6:54:49 PM PDT by Pelham (California, formerly part of the USA)
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To: acoulterfan

I’ll bet there are 2.7 million illegals in LA County alone.


36 posted on 07/11/2009 6:55:42 PM PDT by Pelham (California, formerly part of the USA)
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To: rbbeachkid

“Prop 187 was passed by the citizens of California prohibiting the use of tax dollars to support illegal aliens. The 9th Circus slapped it down saying that it was in violation of the equal protection clause.”

No, one judge alone, Marianne Pfaelzer, struck down Prop 187. She sat on her decision for three years, waiting for Pete Wilson’s term to expire. When Gray Davis became Governor she released her decision, and surprise, surprise, Gray Davis decided not to appeal it. Neither the 9th Circuit nor any other appeals court has ever had the chance to review the legality of Pfaelzer’s decision. So one person alone found a way to overrule the voters of California. So much for democracy.

Arnold could appeal her decision anytime he wants to. But being a loyal open borders GOP stooge he won’t do it.


37 posted on 07/11/2009 7:03:01 PM PDT by Pelham (California, formerly part of the USA)
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