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Conservative Free Republic blog in free speech flap after racial slurs directed at Obama children
The Vancouver Sun ^ | July 11, 2009 | Chris Parry

Posted on 07/11/2009 12:01:08 PM PDT by buccaneer81

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To: jakerobins

You said, in part:
“Don’t start censoring FR to please the libs! It will just encourage the left...
Don’t allow the LEFT to dictate the “RULES” of FREE SPEACH...”

My response:
I am not letting the left dictate my speech. This is a conservative forum, and we ourselves adhere to certain standards.

I associate with conservatives largely because I believe they adhere to certain values which I hold dear. There are compelling reasons I affiliate with Free Republic and not DU.

Those values, and common decency, dictate my speech, not the left. Common decency requires that all children of politicians should be off limits. They do not become acceptable targets just because some children of our own have been attacked.

We do not need to adopt the hateful gutter tactics of the libs to make our point. We make our point when, by actions and speech, we make it clear we hold to higher standards.


121 posted on 07/11/2009 12:39:49 PM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: All

You guys are starting to remind me of the diversity boards in the multiculturalism class I just was forced to take for my master’s degree. Everyone groveled right on cue.

People routinely tore down their own ethnic group and wrote the usual academic diversity twaddle. I wrote what was on my mind to keep my sanity, called the textbook author an idiot in congenial terms, and factually demonstrated where he was wrong.

By the end of the semester, the instructor was thanking me for not writing the same boring stuff as everyone else. I took a chance. No one else did. Freedom involves risk.

This is an attack on Free Republic and we already have people rolling over like pups and decrying what goes on here. I often see sarcasm and stupid posts, but that comes with free speech. John McCain adopted this play nice, on the defensive attitude last year. You saw what happened to him. They ran over him like a doormat.

Jimrob is a great man. He will do the right thing. Stop the sniveling. The left isn’t about logic. They attack. And once they do it doesn’t matter whether we are mean or nice. We are attacked because we ARE. Get used to it.

Draw your swords and use them on the enemy. Stop falling on them.


122 posted on 07/11/2009 12:40:36 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: keats5
Common decency requires that all children of politicians should be off limits.

That should read, "Common decency requires that all minor children of politicians should be off limits."
123 posted on 07/11/2009 12:41:17 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: buccaneer81
Tell the "journalist" to shut up...it's not his kids. Let commiebama weigh in on it. After all, Sarah had the nerve to step up and defend her children when letterman's BS was going around.

This so-called "writer" is just trying to stir up rebuttals from the anointed one and get his attention.
124 posted on 07/11/2009 12:42:08 PM PDT by FrankR (We are only enslaved to the extent of charity we receive....INCUMBENTS OUT!!!)
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To: keats5

At the very least, the children should be off limits - on both sides. Two wrongs don’t make a right. Yada yada.


125 posted on 07/11/2009 12:42:12 PM PDT by crunk
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To: sausageseller

world leaders are reading this site!

even bloggers in Vancouver

and “lodging complaints”


126 posted on 07/11/2009 12:42:21 PM PDT by silverleaf (Save the earth. It's the only planet with chocolate!)
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To: jakerobins
If being the good guy means standing still while someone punches your lights out..NO THANKS.

Being the good guy does not mean not fighting back. It means not being a monster when you fight back. If someone shoots your children, it makes sense that you'd want to get them in retaliation but it would make no sense to kill their innocent children just because they shot yours. At that point, you become a monster just like them.

127 posted on 07/11/2009 12:42:53 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: jakerobins
If being the good guy means standing still while someone punches your lights out..NO THANKS.

Being the good guy does not mean not fighting back. It means not being a monster when you fight back. If someone shoots your children, it makes sense that you'd want to get them in retaliation but it would make no sense to kill their innocent children just because they shot yours. At that point, you become a monster just like them.

128 posted on 07/11/2009 12:42:54 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Luke21

Excellent post!


129 posted on 07/11/2009 12:43:06 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: KYGrandma; Jim Robinson

Jim has always censored FR in accordance with his rules and level of tolerance for jerks. It’s his site, he’s free to do with it whatever he wants.


130 posted on 07/11/2009 12:45:12 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: buccaneer81

It seems to me we have liberal perps causing all of this racism to discredit this conservative site. Robert Byrd type democRats if you ask me. That’s how liberals play the game. Just ask Ginsburg who said abortion is about population control.


131 posted on 07/11/2009 12:45:19 PM PDT by partyright
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To: Luke21

“Draw your swords and use them on the enemy. Stop falling on them.”

I tend to agree with you, and would only add that we use those swords to attack enemy combatants, not innocent bystanders.

As much as some seem to want to make it something else, that is the point many of us have been trying to make on this thread.


132 posted on 07/11/2009 12:45:24 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: TexasBeth

I agree what they said was wrong....But I still don’t want to let the LEFT tell FR what they can and can’t say. I’m sorry but I don’t buy the argument “Don’t sink to their level”.

It itsn’t even about winning an argument or being right or wrong. It’s about what WE can say on a private board....While the left will be happy to act high minded and preach about what’s RIGHT. They will completely debase any Republican in the most disgusting ways..Sexism.Racism..bad taste mean nothing to these people.

No matter how NICE we are how we follow their RULES..the LEFT will ALWAYS hate us. Might as well be FREE to speak you mind while your being hated....


133 posted on 07/11/2009 12:46:33 PM PDT by jakerobins ( NO)
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To: Luke21

Thanks, Luke21!!!!!


134 posted on 07/11/2009 12:46:38 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (BG x 2 (and a heartbeat was heard today....))
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To: GeronL

You’re probably right. I’m betting he’s never commented on any of it.


135 posted on 07/11/2009 12:46:41 PM PDT by ElayneJ
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To: buccaneer81

Is this a blog now?


136 posted on 07/11/2009 12:46:51 PM PDT by nufsed (. Stay away and I'll stay here. What else needs to be siad?)
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To: keats5

“...and if we want to take this country back, we do need to be the good guys.”

I’m not sure, I’m not sure. I think remarks like the ones quoted are over-the-line, and those posts probably should have been pulled. (I didn’t see this thread, so that’s all I’m going to say) David Letterman is a despicable person, and I’ve thought that for at least 25 years. He deserved whatever vitriol came his way over his “joke” about Piper Palin. (Of course it was about her, not Bristol, although I’d be willing to concede the writers of his show were apathetically confused about which daughter was at the game).

But I’m not sure being the good guys has done our side any good at all.

This is mashed up in my mind with thoughts about my own life and has being good really gotten me anywhere. I feel like it’s gotten me screwed over a couple of times and I am not seeing an up side.

Of course, I’m a Catholic, I don’t long to be bad, and in fact I think I could never really be truly bad (except for some blood revenge thing, which luckily I’ve never had to even consider). And of course I know the reward for being good does not come in this life time.

But politics is not about eternal salvation, so while I don’t think there is any profit in making jokes about Obama’s daughters or even Michele My Belle (who is certainly not going some Hillary Two-for-One route, at least not yet), I’m not sure that the moral high ground is really the most strategic place from which to fight.

Not, at least, while we have the likes of Peggy Noonan sniping at our ankles.


137 posted on 07/11/2009 12:47:35 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: nufsed
Is this a blog now?

Must be. I mean, the Vancouver Sun says it is.

138 posted on 07/11/2009 12:48:01 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: buccaneer81
C'mon, this is as old as politics itself. trolls infiltrate, and then tattle-tale on themselves.
139 posted on 07/11/2009 12:48:08 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: buccaneer81

People should temper their remarks and think whether letting off some steam is worth giving our enemies some juicy quotes. To use against Jim Robinson and Free Republic


140 posted on 07/11/2009 12:48:40 PM PDT by dennisw (Free Republic is an island in a sea of zombies)
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