Posted on 07/12/2009 9:15:01 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
Dude, your gonna get the same treatment as you did hitting at ol Fred, methinks. The coronation has already started.
Palin is 100% correct on this issue; abortion belongs to the states.
Abortion was granted as a right in the 9th amendment regardless of whether someone thinks it is ok or not. Let the states decide whether they support it or not and exercise their 10th Amendment rights.
Wouldn’t it be gratifying to actually go back to the rule of law at some point?
Keyes nailed the Palin Amen Chorus with this comment.
I loved Allen Keyes in “Borat.”
I find Keyes questioning Palin's morality quite humorous, as he has basically disavowed his lesbian daughter.
Doesn’t matter. Roe v Wade was and is a States Rights issue and she is a Governor. Why do you think the left wants to keep it in Federal hands, so it will never be voted on.
Keyes is a one issue person, God Bless him but he knows he is not being honest about this. He is splitting hairs and to call Palin anything but Pro Life is unfair.
Pray for America
And so, like Alan, I'm willing to endure any scorn, any abuse, to stand on behalf of the full import of the following words:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men..."
"We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
"No State shall...deprive any person of life...without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
Watching Alan Keyes over many years, I have sadly come to the conclusion that he his in love with himself. I say that sadly, because in his earlier years in politics, he was a refreshing voice for Conservatives.
After those productive times, he started slipping in influence. Out of nowhere he moved to Illinois and put up a very inadequate campaign against Obama in the senate race.
Now when I see him on tv what comes across is nihilism....he loves to hear the sound of his own voice, and he is very proud (rightly so) of his command of English.
If he was as influential as so many of his backers seem to think, what have been the results of his influence on members of his own race?
I might get flamed for this as being a racist comment, but really, where did this guy think he could do the most to further the Conservative cause?
Good point, we don’t want Keyes endorsing Palin not helpful. I just don’t think he comes across as respectable.
It is a states right and not a constitutional right...In all likely hood if put to a vote in the states, most states would again make laws against it....And the concentration of anti-abortions people would only have several states to influence instead of the federal judges and liberal congress critters in Washington...It would remove a big democrat push.....
Do you believe the same thing about your unalienable right to keep and bear arms? Your right to free speech? Assembly? Petition? What?
Please explain to me why you, and Governor Palin, can claim that the right to keep and bear arms is for all persons, but that the first right, the right to live, is somehow "up to the states"?
Alan Keyes fairly drips with self-rightousness. Alan Keyes cares about Alan Keyes and therefore pays little attention to the veritable lumber yard in his own eye.
No he doesn’t. He has addressed Governor Palin with much solicitude and respect. He’s simply challenged her concerning some of the most basic premises of our free republic, ones that she clearly has wrong.
It has nothing to do with personalities. What is at stake is the most important non-negotiable principles upon which our republic and our liberty rest.In this case, Alan Keyes is right, and Sarah Palin is wrong.
Please think about this. Abortion is the taking of a human life, and therefore a homicide. Killing an intruder in your home is the taking of a human life, and therefore homicide. Many states have laws which define justifiable homicide, such as self defense, and do not prosecute a person for using force in such instances. What you, and apparently Mr. Keyes, are actually saying is that states have no jurisdiction to make this definition, and all homicides must be acted upon by a federal power. Do you honestly believe that? Does Alan Keyes really believe that? I doubt it.
In this case, Sarah Palin is right, and Alan Keyes is wrong. Very wrong.
Note to self: Ignore the posters who are acting towards Alan Keyes like the Left has acted towards Sarah Palin and Alan Keyes.
No, it is you who have it wrong. All officers of government, at all levels, have a sworn duty to the Constitution to protect innocent human life. No officer, no government, no state, no individual, has a right to abet, act, or allow the killing of innocents.
I hear ya. But, unlike Alan, however, you do realize that Palin is an ally of the pro-life movement. I’m all for a constitutional amendment (even though I think simple legislation SHOULD be more than adequate), but I’m ALSO for overturning R. V. W., which is apparently Palin’s position.
Note to self: Ignore the posters who are acting towards Alan Keyes like the Left has acted towards Sarah Palin and Alan Keyes.
Please. I voted for Alan Keyes! I never voted for Palin. But, in this instance, he is wrong.
You cannot argue that the right to life is too fundamental to belong to the states. All people have the right to life, otherwise it isn't "unalienable," and yet the states have some executed, and some are killed by other citizens without violation of the law. If what Alan Keyes is saying is true then only the Federal government can define whether a criminal can be executed or whether a citizen can act in self defense. Who in their right mind would argue for that?
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