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Note by 'teenage scribbler' causes sensation
The Financial Times ^ | 7/12/2009 | Andrew Edgecliffe-Johnson in New York

Posted on 07/13/2009 1:25:51 AM PDT by bruinbirdman

A research note written by a 15-year-old, who was not born when former UK chancellor Nigel Lawson dismissed London analysts as “teenage scribblers”, has become the talk of middle-aged media executives and investors.

Morgan Stanley’s European media analysts asked Matthew Robson, one of the bank’s interns from a London school, to describe his friends’ media habits. His report proved to be “one of the clearest and most thought-provoking insights we have seen. So we published it,” said Edward Hill-Wood, head of the team.

The response was enormous. “We’ve had dozens and dozens of fund managers, and several CEOs, e-mailing and calling all day,” said Mr Hill-Wood, 35, estimating that the note had generated five or six times more feedback than the team’s usual reports.

However, he made no claims for its statistical rigour.

As elderly media moguls gathered at the Allen & Co conference in Sun Valley, Idaho, to fawn over Twitter and fret over their business models, Mr Robson set out a sobering case that tomorrow’s consumers are using more and more media but are unwilling to pay for it.

“Teenagers do not use Twitter,” he pronounced. Updating the micro-blogging service from mobile phones costs valuable credit, he wrote, and “they realise that no one is viewing their profile, so their tweets are pointless”.

His peers find it hard to make time for regular television, and would rather listen to advert-free music on websites such as Last.fm than tune into traditional radio. Even online, teens find advertising “extremely annoying and pointless”.

Their time and money is spent instead on cinema, concerts and video game consoles which, he said, now double as a more attractive vehicle for chatting with friends than the phone.

Mr Robson had little comfort for struggling print publishers, saying no teenager he knew regularly reads a newspaper since most “cannot be bothered to read pages and pages of text” rather than see summaries online or on television.

Executives and investors have grown fascinated by the opinions of teenagers. Rupert Murdoch, 78, has described himself as a “digital immigrant” and his young daughters as “digital natives”, while UBS pulled in an 18-year-old three years ago to demonstrate MySpace to portfolio managers.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: advertising; media
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1 posted on 07/13/2009 1:25:51 AM PDT by bruinbirdman
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To: bruinbirdman

Pretty shallow article. A “sound-bite” for ADD readers.


2 posted on 07/13/2009 1:41:28 AM PDT by CanaGuy (Go Harper!)
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To: CanaGuy

Actually, this will upset a lot of financial people who think they know what the 13-24 demographic is doing in terms of media consumption and use.

The part about Twitter is REALLY going to upset them.


3 posted on 07/13/2009 1:46:28 AM PDT by Terpfen (FR is being Alinskied. Remember, you only take flak when you're over the target.)
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To: bruinbirdman
So much in the pursuit of so little.

A classic Twilight Zone episode comes to mind.

It's a Good Life

4 posted on 07/13/2009 1:55:58 AM PDT by AHerald ("If you love me, you will keep my commandments." -- Jn 14:15)
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To: CanaGuy

I often open a thread not for the posted article, but just for the Freepers’ commentary. This time, as often happens, the comments are more useful and entertaining than the actual article.


5 posted on 07/13/2009 2:42:12 AM PDT by SupplySider
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To: Terpfen

the reason why TWITTER is going to be upset is because it didn’t name itself SCRIBBLE /sarc


6 posted on 07/13/2009 2:58:35 AM PDT by MissDairyGoodnessVT (Mac Conchradha - "Skeagh mac en chroe"- Skaghvicencrowe)
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To: MissDairyGoodnessVT

I didn’t say Twitter would be upset. I said the readers of this article (financial people and various persons of corporate employ) would be upset by the part about teenagers not using Twitter. Difference.


7 posted on 07/13/2009 3:01:50 AM PDT by Terpfen (FR is being Alinskied. Remember, you only take flak when you're over the target.)
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To: Terpfen

yeah, and watch somebody develop SCRIBBLE lol for low-level mutant TWITTER’ers


8 posted on 07/13/2009 3:09:31 AM PDT by MissDairyGoodnessVT (Mac Conchradha - "Skeagh mac en chroe"- Skaghvicencrowe)
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To: bruinbirdman

Kids are today allowed to do pretty much what they want to without consequences. Like being dumbed down to think that Clif Notes style learning is the best way to learn. I think that is sad. They think they can write a book even though they can’t read one unless it’s in shorthand amd abbreviated. Sad that they are not experiencing life to its fullest.

I am not implying that all parents are allowing this to happen.


9 posted on 07/13/2009 3:15:31 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: MissDairyGoodnessVT

Nah, there’s just no point in using the service if you have texting, Facebook, Xbox Live voice chat, etc already available to you.

Companies were probably hoping for widespread Twitter adoption so they can use the service as a way of directly contacting hopeful customers, especially since everyone hates advertising.


10 posted on 07/13/2009 3:17:48 AM PDT by Terpfen (FR is being Alinskied. Remember, you only take flak when you're over the target.)
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To: bruinbirdman
“Teenagers do not use Twitter,” he pronounced. Updating the micro-blogging service from mobile phones costs valuable credit, he wrote, and “they realise that no one is viewing their profile, so their tweets are pointless”.

I have a number of young friends and acquaintances - none twitter. They’re even losing interest in MySpace and FaceBook. They communicate mainly with texting and emails.
I can see why executives believe in Twitter - most newsreaders and commentators use Twitter and talk about it. The urge viewers to checkout their tweets. Executives see it and believe that “everyone is twittering!” because they heard it on the news. Not many young people watch the news.
11 posted on 07/13/2009 3:36:04 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: AHerald

Caption: “Twitter, I’m going to send you to the cornfield! And all you newspapers better be nice to me.”


12 posted on 07/13/2009 3:39:41 AM PDT by drangundsturm
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To: bruinbirdman

“Mr Robson had little comfort for struggling print publishers, saying no teenager he knew regularly reads a newspaper...”

I recently visited a site dominated by teens, and a large percentage can’t even write a coherent sentence, let alone carry on a logical discussion. They had the attention span of gnats.

That leads me to believe they don’t have the smarts to figure how to operate a lawnmower, toaster, gun or vehicle. This group was worse than dumbed down; these kids were creating a new stone age complete with grunts and ughs. Give them a video game and pointy stick to dig for grubs, and I’d guess they’d be happy for two minutes.


13 posted on 07/13/2009 3:46:13 AM PDT by sergeantdave (obuma is the anti-Lincoln, trying to re-establish slavery)
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To: sergeantdave

It was the intent of the public ‘education’ system to reduce our nation to a collection of gibbering idiots. They have succeeded.


14 posted on 07/13/2009 3:59:39 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: bruinbirdman
Brad: Son, you've never read any of my books, have you?
Bart: [snorts] Earth to boring guy.

http://www.snpp.com/episodes/1F05.html

15 posted on 07/13/2009 4:06:19 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: bruinbirdman

Why would these idiots not assume this kid already knew everything there is to know? Mine did by 15.


16 posted on 07/13/2009 4:14:58 AM PDT by DainBramage
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To: DainBramage

Freeper comments not withstanding, this 15 year old apparently can write well and has disturbed what “professionals” know about the evolving pattern of media habits of young people.


17 posted on 07/13/2009 5:00:00 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

And he was right. My daughter signed up for a Twitter account, pronounced it “stupid” and has only used it once to support the Iranians. She hates Facebook. Finds it time consuming and “fluffy”. None of her friends use these formats as well.

She loved MySpace for awhile, but that’s using it’s charm.

The teens I know communicate primarily by text. It’s fast and cheap (if you get an unlimited plan) and everyone has it.

I think that this is all a positive trend. I’m seeing kids get out from behind their computers more than I have in years. My son routinely goes fishing, swimming and rock climbing with his friends. The kids are having fun sitting by a fire chatting in the summer evenings rather than playing with technology. This summer is the first time I’ve seen kids excited by, and voluntarily going to, museums. My daughter has started reading. (She just finished Animal Farm and is working on Starship Troopers. Her next book is on Jewish history. She’s teaching a class next month.)

Video games are hot, but my son is less and less interested in buying them. Right now he’s checking out GameStop. (”It’s like renting movies. Who buys every movie they want to check out? Why would you buy every game? Renting makes sense.”)

They are positive about the iPod, but I’m getting the impression that they think that this is where MP3 players should end. The iPod is the best and it’s unnecessary to go further. (They only have two complaints - that the iPod is tied to one particular computer and that the computer has to store all the information on the iPod. In their view, the duplication wastes memory.) The iPhone is less impressive to them. They seem to like the flexibility of the cheaper “pay as you go” phones and plans. Both of my kids have lost or broken phones and they don’t want to deal with the heartbreak of loosing an expensive one.

Everyone is tan in Texas. Kids aren’t getting pudgy in the summer months. I love this new “trend!” :-)


18 posted on 07/13/2009 5:59:53 AM PDT by Marie (Alan Keyes for President!)
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She loved MySpace for awhile, but that’s using it’s charm.

She loved MySpace for awhile, but that’s loosing it’s charm.

19 posted on 07/13/2009 6:02:13 AM PDT by Marie (Alan Keyes for President!)
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To: Terpfen

I don’t use “Twitter”, and I don’t “Follow” anyone—it seems a “little” narcisistic (and arrogant) to think that I want to know what everyone in the world is thinking, or cares about (since most of what they write about doesn’t really mater in life, anyway). It’s kind of pointless. I use facebook—that’s about all the “social network” I use.

First it was “surfing the web” then “search engines” then “Chatting” then “message boards” then “blogging” then “myspace”, then “texting” then “Facebook” then “twitter” the internet keeps creating new way to not interact with real people. (as I type this on a message board, people need to get out an live their lives, and focus on what mattrer: Their response to God, Family), not stupid stuff which our culture and the silly elite guppie culture focuses on!


20 posted on 07/13/2009 8:35:25 AM PDT by JSDude1 (DHS, FBI, FEMA, etc have been bad little boys. They need to be spanked and sent to timeout!)
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