Posted on 07/16/2009 6:45:38 AM PDT by redstate50
Does anyone with a few brain cells to rub together believe that the likes of Christopher Buckley, David Frum, Peggy Noonan, or that paragon of Republicanism, Colin Powell, represent anything other than the elitist (read as: liberal) northeast establishment that spawned them?
These are the people who will lead the “New Republican” Party? The very people who voted for Barack Obama? I guess I’m just one of those out-of-touch conservative throwbacks that haven’t gotten the news that the age of Reaganism is dead.
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I don’t remember who said it (maybe Newt) but I agreed with him those elitist are welcome in the GOP as long as they do not control the Party. They don’t have the votes — votes are overwhelmingly with the Conservatives in the GOP. What they have is the platform to speak given to them by the drive by media. We need to change the face of the GOP that speaks in the media. It is usually the same people speaking. We do better with the House then the Senate as Boehner is a much better leader then McConnell IMHO.
One of the problems is some of the State Parties need a wake-up call. We need to get more conservatives elected at all levels. Everyone needs to understand that one of the most important items to a candidate is volunteers — they need money but volunteers are their lifeblood. Those robocalls do not work well — you need live people on the phone, live people walking doors, and the candidate out all the time walking doors, meeting with people to ask for their vote.
Conservatives need to take back their State Parties first, get the conservative candidates elected and then welcome anyone because we will have control of the Party. We also need more writers and pundits.
A good point, but the salient feature left out is that it works both ways.
They need those people, as well, and if the GOP is offering policies that are little more than watered down Socialist democrat policies without a clear and defining choice between this or that instead of full bore 100% democrat policies, then they will lose again - and lose even bigger than before.
It is very possible for the GOP to lose everything in the next two rounds.
Any time the RNC sends me a letter asking me for $$, I remind them that I can’t support a party of Powell/Ridge/Noonan/etc. I’ll support individual “conservative” candidates.
, I remind them that I can’t support a party of Powell/Ridge/Noonan/etc...
Remind them that they supported Arlen Specter right down to the bitter end.
Just as elitists are welcome in our society,
as long as they do not control it.
However, from the elitist point of view,
individualists not only may not control policy,
they may not EXIST.
This is the big difference in attitude between
them and us - how they view their opposition.
I agree. Rush had the Guts to say so.
Let them chatter and be window dressing. If the left thinks that is the face of the Republicans, so be it.
Something is afoot.
I think of the “moderate” style commentators (think Noonan, George Will), and I’m talking style, not substance, I think of them Jim Pinkerton is the best we’ve got these days. He’s got a mild intellectual style but what he writes and says is educated conservatism.
A good point, but the salient feature left out is that it works both ways. They need those people, as well, and if the GOP is offering policies that are little more than watered down Socialist democrat policies without a clear and defining choice between this or that instead of full bore 100% democrat policies, then they will lose again - and lose even bigger than before. It is very possible for the GOP to lose everything in the next two rounds.
I agree with you, bill1952. As it stands, the RINOS are having problems with real conservatives, and are trying to get them to move to the "middle". However, when push comes to shove, and the RINOS see that conservatives are adament, and that they won't get their votes, most of them will get the message. Once we start negotiating our values, we will lose, as have been proved this past election. We must get to the RINOS, and not allow them to get to us.
So you don't disagree. Last election Obama got 67 million votes and McCain got 58 million. To reverse the outcome, Republicans will have to get about 5 million of those Obama voters. I'm not arguing how they should do it, but just pointing out the numbers. Maybe you think there are another 9 million potential Republican voters who stayed home. I suppose that is possible, but the total popular vote in 2008 was the highest in history.
My point was that trying to out liberal the liberals is NOT the answer.
My other point was that we shouldn’t listen to Obama voting Republicans on how to win.
McCain was the prototype candidate that “moderate” Republicans swore we needed to beat Democrats. And many of those Republicans voted for Obama regardless.
Actually it wasn’t proletarian urban mobs, but Royalist troops, marching on the Directory that got the ‘whiff of grape’, along with musket volleys from loyal National Guard troops and Jacobin militia and charges from Murat’s cavalry.
Royalist indecision combined with Napoleon’s sang-froid saved the Directory and the Revolution, along with Napoleon’s career, which had been languishing.
The Commune is a little later, 1870 and is put down by Marshal MacMahon after the Germans open their siege lines to allow the entry of French troops for that purpose.
The lesson of 13 Vendemairie is that when using force one must act decisively.
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