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Buh-Bye, Walter Cronkite: He Lost the Vietnam War for U.S. on TV, Had American Blood on His Hands
debbieschlussel.com ^ | 7/17/2009 | Debbie Schlussel

Posted on 07/17/2009 7:51:49 PM PDT by Sioux-san

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To: Sioux-san

Cronkite certainly contributed to the killing fields of Southeast Asia that happened after we surrendered there. If there is an afterlife (as portrayed by Niven and Pournelle) Cronkite will spend eternity in a Khmer Rouge re-education camp. He has a lot of blood on his hands, as do the rest of us who were stupid enough to protest the war effort.


121 posted on 07/18/2009 6:35:58 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: tanknetter

Maybe Cronkite was catching flak on the cocktail party circuit for being too gung ho early in the war. Maybe his defeatism towards the end was a way of proving that he had “evolved”.


122 posted on 07/18/2009 6:37:27 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick
Maybe Cronkite was catching flak on the cocktail party circuit for being too gung ho early in the war. Maybe his defeatism towards the end was a way of proving that he had “evolved”.

Sounds right. And wasn't he the one who wondered on air whether the U.S. needed "democracy" any longer or words to that effect?
123 posted on 07/18/2009 6:39:19 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan

I hadn’t heard that one. Was he suggesting that democracy is overrated and that a non-democratic Vietnam wouldn’t be such a bad thing?


124 posted on 07/18/2009 6:44:07 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick
Was he suggesting that democracy is overrated and that a non-democratic Vietnam wouldn’t be such a bad thing?

I think he was the last gasp, the Johnny come lately, of the fellow travelers of the earlier part of the 20th century who, after visiting places like the USSR, came back gushing about how they've "been over to the future and it works!" Marx was right when he said, "History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce." Lincoln Steffens in the Soviet Union was tragedy. The Congressional Black Caucus in Cuba was farce.
125 posted on 07/18/2009 6:57:31 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Rannug

How can you be 150% disabled? LOL how did you do in 5th grade math?


126 posted on 07/18/2009 6:59:22 AM PDT by Ace the Biker (I wasn't born in Texas but I got here as fast as I could.)
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To: Sioux-san

My exact thoughts as I tuned into fox news last night. Instead of Hannity here is the worshiping of Cronkite, the man who helped lose the vietnam war. The guy who helped overamp watergate that was really a big NOTHING.


127 posted on 07/18/2009 7:05:45 AM PDT by jetson
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To: Sioux-san

Walter, as a Vietnam Vet, I hope maggots and beetles feed on your traitorous carcass and that when you get to Hell, they find a special place for you in the coldest darkest part of the devil’s domain.


128 posted on 07/18/2009 7:22:49 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (thirst for absolute power is the natural disease of monarchy - Thomas Paine)
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To: DMZFrank
Frank, thanks for the recounting. As a young boy at the time I followed Vietnam rather closely, getting up at 5am almost every day to watch the raw film footage broadcast by a NYC station. My interest in the war remained until the end and then afterwords with the refugees, re-education camps, the fall of Cambodia and it's aftermath.

It's a fair analysis to say more SE Asians died in the first year of 'communist peace" than in the preceding 15 years of the leftists' so-called 'imperialist aggression'.

The media is simply full of anti-American, pro-tyranny traitors and agents of foreign governments and their policies. Considering Western journalists' influence over Western public opinion and politics they have always been the pre-eminent target of foreign security services.

129 posted on 07/18/2009 7:29:21 AM PDT by Justa
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To: Sioux-san

Goodbye Cronkite, you duplicitious gasbag.


130 posted on 07/18/2009 8:41:57 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: imahawk

No, I would not be shocked in the least.


131 posted on 07/18/2009 8:42:56 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Bender2

NUTS I didn’t have Uncle Walt in this year dead pool I have Dan Rather and Catcher mitt Mike wallace


132 posted on 07/18/2009 9:38:16 AM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: Bender2

Yep...


133 posted on 07/18/2009 9:58:10 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: BikerJoe
The Chinese would never have tried to sent major infantry units to SEA. Even more importantly, the Vietnamese would never have allowed it.

China is Vietnam's oldest and most feared enemy. China and Vietnam fought many times over many centuries. Old Vietnamese saying “Give a Chinaman a spear as a friendly gift for Tet, so he can kill fish and feed his family, and he will march south with it in the Spring to kill you and take your food from your family.”

Vietnam was glad to accept supplies, technical assistance (SAM crew training teams, etc) and supply transshipment permission from the USSR and Eastern Bloc from the PRC, but Vietnam would never have accepted large scale PLA forces.

Russia would never have started war with US over VN. It was much better for the Sovs and the PRC to use the SEA war to bleed us. For them, it was very much an excellent “war on the cheap.”

Example, when we damaged Sov ships during mining Haipohong harbor, Gromyko was questioned by Western media as to the Sov answer. It was basically, “Ya gotta do what ya gotta do.”

Sovs were far to busy trying to feed citizens to get involved or take action because of war in SEA.

Our failures in VN and WOT are based on our lack of political will to accept a reality of war. “A nation's traditional military forces cannot fully defeat an unconventional (guerrilla) army in the field. But that gurilla army cannot succeed without the huge logistical support of a foreign nation (or in case of current WOT, intercontinental Islamofacism.) Defeat or make the battle too expensive for the logistical supporter, and you defeat the guerrilla army in the field.

134 posted on 07/18/2009 10:28:29 AM PDT by MindBender26 ("Ok, so I screwed up... again. I'm 65. What are they going to do, send me back to Vietnam again?)
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To: Sioux-san; All

No-class Debbie, the Ann Coulter wanna-be, strikes again. :(


135 posted on 07/18/2009 10:53:17 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Ace the Biker

I shall explain it to you dildo brain. The Veterans Affairs has a disability rating system. Each disability or injury (as in bullet wounds, grenades, whatever)is rated at a percentage, depending on the severity of said injury or disability. While the VA only compensates the first 100%, one’s total rating may be higher, as is mine. So there, dumba$$.

Patriot Guard Rider


136 posted on 07/18/2009 11:57:19 AM PDT by Rannug
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To: Ace the Biker

It’s the math of the Veteran’s Affairs that is lacking. They calculate disability levels very strange- making it nearly impossible for most to ever reach 100%. Yet there are some who have multiple issues that end up more than 100% disabled using the VA “fuzzy math” system. My hubby was blown up by a mine in Vietnam resulting in several different medical issues and he is one that is more than 100% disabled also, but VA only pays up to 100%.

You need to ask the VA about their math skills if you wonder how this can be possible.


137 posted on 07/18/2009 12:12:44 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support & pray for our Troops; they serve us every day. Veterans are heroes not terrorists!)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten; DMZFrank
Quite possibly the best post I’ve ever read on FreeRepublic. Thank you for it and for your service.

I heartily second the motion!

Welcome home bro!

138 posted on 07/18/2009 12:17:58 PM PDT by Bigun ("It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire)
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To: FlyVet

I think that he was a fellow traveler. He probably became enamored of the Walter Duranty type journalists who were covering up the atrocities of the Stalin regime in the 1930’s, and was influenced by the strain of sympathies then fashionable among lefists who were exposed to the one world utopiaisms of the IWW types and the internationalist crowd. He was probably more of a dupe than a hard core idealogue.


139 posted on 07/18/2009 12:54:33 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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To: Bigun

My most profound thanks and backatcha. I meant every word that I wrote from the heart.


140 posted on 07/18/2009 12:56:25 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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