Posted on 07/18/2009 11:30:17 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
Edited on 07/18/2009 11:48:33 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
* * R O U G H * * D R A F T * *
(continuing my remarks from prior thread)
Here is our recourse as declared by our Founding Fathers:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
It cannot be denied that the central government has become destructive of our unalienable rights to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness and our rights to live free. The government is no longer responsive to we the People. They have stretched and shredded the constitution to the point that they have illegally seized for themselves virtually unlimited powers over the citizens and act as if we have no rights and no powers of our own. They are acting without our consent.
Our Founders established that when our government becomes destructive of our rights then it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
We have reached the point where the government's long train of abuses and usurpations has achieved absolute Despotism, therefore it is our right, it is our duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for our future security.
Therefore, We the People of America choose to exercise our right to throw off and alter the abusive government by peacefully recalling and removing from office the President of the United States, the Vice President of the United States and all U.S. Senators and U.S. Representatives effective immediately.
An interim provisional Chief Executive and congressional representatives will be established as follows:
The Secretary of State shall immediately assume the office of interim Chief Executive. The Chief Executive shall appoint and the interim Senate shall confirm an interim Vice President.
An immediate election shall be held within each state legislature to appoint two interim senators to represent each sovereign state.
A special election shall be held by all states within 30 days to elect interim members of the House of Representatives.
Elections for regular government offices shall be conducted in November, 2010 as previously scheduled, except that elections will be held for all elective offices, including President, Vice President and all U.S. Representatives. U.S. Senators will be elected per class schedule by the various state legislatures.
We alter the government to provide new Guards for our future security as follows:
The Constitution of the United States must be kept intact and must be adhered to and strictly followed by all government entities as originally intended. The government has stretched the constitutional limits well beyond those intended by our founders. We must take steps to ensure that this is corrected and that the out of control government is reined in and that sufficient measures are introduced to maintain the limits, checks and balances on government and that government powers are strictly limited to those enumerated in the constitution and that our rights are reestablished, reaffirmed, re-secured and safeguarded. We must restore and reestablish the sovereignty of the people and the states and restore the constitutional balances between the central government, the various states and we the people. The constitution severely restricts government powers and guarantees unalienable freedom and Liberty to the people.
As we restore constitutionally limited government several wrongs must be righted:
The central government has illegally expanded its powers. They've done this by ignoring or stretching their constitutional limits. They have usurped powers limited to the states and the people. We must reestablish and reaffirm the enumerated powers and limit the central government strictly to just those powers. They've built huge power bases by allowing senators and representatives to be full time professional career positions. We eliminate this by establishing strict qualifications for office and term limits.
We must reestablish and reaffirm the powers to the states and the people as defined by the 9th and 10th amendments.
The central government has denied the states their constitutionally guaranteed republican form of government by introducing the 17th amendment which alters the way the senators which were to represent the sovereign interests of the various states to the central government. We must reestablish that representation by repealing the 17th amendment and allowing the state legislatures of the various states to elect their own senators as intended by our founders. This was never intended to be a function of the people. We the People are represented to the central government by our elected representatives in the House of Representatives. The sovereign states were to be represented by the state's senators to keep central powers and encroachment in check. Power is from the people to the states, and from the states to the central government. They've turned this upside down and inside out. We must correct it.
We hereby repeal the 17th amendment.
The central government has expanded well beyond the limits established for it by the founders and pay for that expansion by directly taxing the people and severely restricting our rights through an enslaving income tax.
We hereby repeal the 16th amendment.
The IRS and all sub departments and agencies are hereby dissolved, disbanded and closed.
The newly elected congress will establish rules and schedules for assessing and collecting fees, tariffs and excise taxes to support the armed forces and all constitutionally authorized departments of The United States Government per the Constitution of the United States (see schedule).
The central government is hereby stripped of all illegal powers and all departments and agencies not authorized by the constitution are hereby dissolved and disbanded. Their current budgets are hereby withdrawn. All disbanded department funds and liquid assets are to be immediately returned to the US Treasury. A list and methods for achieving this is provided in schedule xxx.
Ownership and responsibility for all federally held buildings, lands, parks, waterways, oceans, seas, etc, other than those in Washington, D.C. or military bases, forts, reservations, or local federal buildings owned by valid constitutional federal departments (see schedule) are hereby transferred to the sovereign state governments within which they reside or are located.
Responsibility for all natural resources found within any of the various states or within lands, oceans, lakes, rivers, waterways, seas out through our international boundary limits are hereby returned to the various states. All laws for mining, drilling, logging, or otherwise capitalizing on any minerals or natural resources are to be determined by the various states within which said resources are found.
The social security system is hereby dissolved, disbanded and closed. All social security funds being held by the federal government are to be returned to the private retirement accounts of the individuals owning them. A special fund will be establish for all current recipients and new recipients according to schedule xxy and the social security system shall be phased out accordingly. The funds to support current social security benefits shall become the responsibility of the states within which the recipients reside.
No revenues accruing to the federal government shall be disbursed to any state, city or local government for any reason whatsoever. Or used to subsidize or benefit any government or private entity, organization or person, other than those explicitly authorized and enumerated in the constitution.
All states are hereby solely responsible for any and all revenues or funds required to operate their sovereign states. The central government is not obligated to and shall not interfere in state government or local affairs.
The interstate commerce clause shall be applied strictly to regulating interstate commerce as originally established and intended by our founders. No stretches or reinterpretations of any kind shall be allowed.
Our first unalienable right is the right to life. Protecting Life and Liberty shall be of paramount importance to our central government. Roe v Wade and all congressional acts, regulations, court opinions allowing legalized abortion or the taking of innocent human life are hereby rescinded, overruled, repealed, nullified and voided. Life is fully protected by the U.S. Government.
The Federal Reserve.
Border security.
Medicare.
FAA, FDA, FCC, various federal ABC departments agencies and agencies. Which to close, which to remake with constitutional limits and authority, etc.
Federal Pensions.
Etc, etc, etc.
Need lots of help with this document, folks. Please chime in. Would love to see a committee formed of members of every state to complete and finalize it. Then we should form and send delegates to a special national congress to work out the kinks and plan its presentation and execution.
This concept is an entirely peaceful altering of our despotic government per our unalienable right and duty. No where do I call for violence. The only force I call for is the force of numbers. We need millions of our citizens to sign on to this petition and execute its provisions. Will require millions to march on D.C. to block the government's ability to do business as usual. This is our right and duty as Americans.
We have a winner here! Just STOP paying tribute to D.C. End of problem!
throw in a michael jackson lookalike and you might have something ‘Bama could understand.
I was educated by his words. Btw, how do you educate yourself of someone who uses a psuedonym?
can't disappear....JimRob's just say'n what we're all think'n. A lot more eloquently of course.
I’ve long thought that it was going to take a peaceful cleaning house to get this country back on the right track!
It needs to be done, and history shows that it can’t be done through a third-party candidate. In order to achieve success, all the independent parties must come together under one banner.
I hope any new Constitutional government would include term limits for all members of the House and Senate. Our presidents are limited to two 4-year terms, and our representatives should likewise be limited to two terms.
I don’t believe we’ll see another free election. ......
Totally agree. Even if we have “elections”, Acorn is now funded by billions of Taxpayer dollars.
All future elections are guaranteed to be fraudulent.
Unplug the big server thingy at the IRS....use the hard discs for target practice....
There are a few folks who think we need to break laws like the Code Pink folks do to be effective. NOT SO! All we need to do is be present in large numbers, peaceful, and law abiding!
The members of Congress and the government are well aware of what is going on. Remember there is only one thing they think about, and that is being reelected. We need to serve notice on them that they may very well be gone in 2010!
All we need do is continue to be involved and educate others to what is happening to our freedoms at the hands of those in power. More and more of our fellow Americans are learning the truth and that number is growing daily!
BE IN WASHINGTON, DC FROM 9/11 - 9/13 IF YOU POSSIBLY CAN! DON'T MISS OUR NATIONAL FREE REPUBLIC TEA PARTY CONVENTION!
HUH?
A lot of people assume that there are going to be more than one of these marches, but I have to say, getting from here to DC is going to be a huge ordeal. I will drop everything and go, but not until I know it’s The March. I can’t afford to traipse back and forth for the sake of giving a corrupt administration warnings that will go unheeded.
“people are more worried about their jobs (or lack of one) or being cut down in hours and paying bills TO DRIVE AND PROTEST/MARCH.”
They may not be aware but avoiding the fight to keep their job isn’t going to help them with their job in the long run.
The left is counting on all of you to whine and be defeatist and stay home, once again.
What good is a job when most of what you earn WILL BE STOLEN from you?
Stop being marshmallows and wake up to the fact that they really are going to make a slave out of you.
At least open your eyes enough to see how much harder your children are going to have it because of what these people are doing.
The left is working overtime to put that fear and apathy in your gut, FReepers. Fight it!
Use your heads and look at what they are doing.
Forget the devestating paradigm shift that will occur once they enact socialized medicine and consider for just a moment what your new ‘medical care’ will be like.
You won’t get to pick you insurance plan (unless you are filthy rich). It’s one size ‘fits’ all.
Want a second opinion? Better start kissin’ *ss and filling out the paperwork.
Want an experienced pediatrition for your children? You’ll get whatever the government gives you.
Need an expensive cancer treatment, and fast? Sign your name and we’ll call you when there is availability in weeks, or months.
Are you a senior citizen with aggresive cancer? Best of luck to you sir/ma’am. You are too old to justify the more expensive treatments. “There, there, it’s been a good long life for you. We need the money for younger people who can work and pay taxes—it’s for the common good.”
Emergency rooms full of illegals and Americans begging for good care.
Again, YOU WILL GET WHAT THEY GIVE YOU AND THAT’S ALL.
So, that’s medicine under the thumb of the left. What about running a business?
You need to have your accountant and lawyer on speed dial, hire several new employees just to handle the government paperwork, cross your fingers that you don’t miss something that the government will fine you heavily for, or shut you down for, and basically live, and work, in fear.
If you screw up their procedurs, they’re going to swat you—they want to swat you because they’ll need the money DESPERATELY. They will be actively, tenaciously monitoring and tracking your every move.
And don’t forget, they have state-of-the-art technology nowadays to get the job done—you cannot hide.
I’m in the tech industry and I can tell you that you have only seen the tip of the iceberg in terms of government technology run amuck—there’s scary stuff just over the horizon.
This will open the door to every other possible attack on your freedom, yes YOU!
You, the individual reading this, YOU will be the target.
Lastly, you need to know that the ‘What’s the use.’, ‘It won’t change anything’, ‘I don’t want to be ridiculed.’ type feelings were put there by the left.
You help them when you give in to these awful feelings—you might as well support 0bama.
Get off this forum go to DU/KOS and support what they’re doing.
Because tuning-out, backing away, or otherwise surrendering to this enemy is going to cost us all DEARLY.
Mark my words. If we don’t fight right now, they will get what they want and you WILL NEVER get the opportunity to resist again, not peacefully, anyway.
I know it’s been months of this crap but we have to dig down and find the fight.
Let’s fight these people, FReepers.
I firmly believe this is the only way.
Having Hillary fill the House and Senate is my idea of Hell.
Jim, I have been a fan for years, and had been making plans to go to Washington, but I can't be a party to this sort of party. I understand the reasons for someone to feel this way but this posting by itself is just begging for us all to rightly be put on the very watch list that we said was so evil.
They may not follow the rules but the way of it is to take back the government legally by elections and then prosecute all who break the law. No other path is moral or acceptable. You are advocating the rabble take control and that is the last step before the TYRANT takes control in reality.
We need the Constitution to protect us and guide us back, we cannot afford to put it aside and pay outside of the dots just because they are.
Don't continue to nurse this fantasy, or perhaps instead of a million people there will only be a few thousand, and we will have lost our voices.
Mcveigh was the nut who bombed the Alfred P. Murrah building in Oklahoma city. The media was able to use him to discredit the peacefull militia movement. My fear is that if we try a massive march with a demand for the resignation of virtually everyone in the government that violence will result and Obama and the media will be able to use it to discredit us and the conservative movement in the same way that McVeigh was used to discredit the militia movement.
Well, this would sure be one hell of a bloodbath.
Literally.
“The Secretary of State shall immediately assume the office of interim Chief Executive.”
I fail to see how installing Hillary Clinton as President would assist this endeavor in any way...
Why would this be beneficial?
I heard this before, we all drive a clunker, take off the tag and park it in the middle of the street and walk off. DC would be shut down for days, weeks?
Oh yeah, go to 50 on with holding and watch them squirm. Just don't spend the money because eventually they are going to get it....
Setting the constitution aside?
Hardly.
I’m just proposing we roll back the damage done to liberty and freedom by the progressive era and RESTORE our constitutionas our founders established and intended.
Restore our state sovereignty.
Restore our constitutional limits on government.
Roll back the socialist New Deal.
Roll back the socialist Great Society.
Eliminate Jimmuh Carter’s socialist meddling.
End the police state!
End the Nanny state!
End the welfare state!
Restore Life, Liberty, Equality and Justice for ALL as our Founders intended and our fighting men and women have fought and died to affirm, secure and defend ever since!!
Socialism is slavery!
That quote is from Thomas Paine's The Crisis.
Wonder how long it will be before the State Run Media sees this thread and starts attempting to use it against us. LOL!
“Well, Julia, this is the mission of Free Republic. “
I thought FR was about defending our laws and our traditions of freedom and individual responsibility, observing and commenting on media bias, and sharing a patriotic perspective on current events. I never saw advocacy of radical actions in FR’s masthead before.
Well ... you say: “We the People of America choose to exercise our right to throw off and alter the abusive government by peacefully recalling and removing from office the President of the United States, the Vice President of the United States and all U.S. Senators and U.S. Representatives effective immediately.”
... AHEM. “WE THE PEOPLE” had an election with over 120 million people participating. Last November. I’m sorry that the worst President in our lifetimes was picked, but he was. Legally, lawfully and democratically. Reality. Obama WILL be President until 2012. Now unless you can get 120 million people to sign up for your revolution, you’ve got no basis to talk about these usurpations, etc. THE PEOPLE VOTED FOR IT!
“Constitutional restoration has long been our primary mission on Free Republic.”
Really. How do you ‘restore’ the Constitution by abolishing duly passed Constitutional amendments, calling to replace a President and members of Congress outside of an election, who, according to the Constitution are not up for re-election until 2012 and 2010. You cannot defend or restore the Constitution while proposing actions that go against it!
How realistic to advocate such extreme actions, when 95% of those who AGREE with you on the facts, will INSTANTLY DISAVOW the actions taken. (And replacing Obama with Hillary as interim President, please!) And they WONT go along with undoing it; me and 98% of patriotic Americans will prefer the slings and arrows of 4 years under Obama to the risks and dangers of revolution or secession - which will NOT happen.
So why even propose something that will only give the left fodder to give you the Alinsky treatment of “isolation”. Now, everyone who had anything to do with you will be called on by the leftists to agree or disavow your unwise course of action. Why did you give the left the tools to hurt you?
If you want to obey the Constitution, then OBEY THE CONSTITUTION. Advocating ANY form of irregularity, revolution, deposing the govt through extra-ordinary or extra-legal action is AGAINST the Constitution and the laws.
Follow your own creed.
The American people will not allow the tyranny of bad leftwing liberal policies to stand via peaceful, lawful activism and the ballot box. It will be overturned ONLY by tossing out in elections those who do wrong. And with 64 million who swallowed Obama’s koolaid, you (we) have a lot of educating to do.
It’s one thing to fight the very wrong Obama agenda. It’s quite another to advocate a divisive and extreme action like this. One that will NOT happen and will only put the target on YOU as an anti-Government extremist.
Conservatives know that radical overthrow of existing insitutions is fraught with danger. If people who think its nuts to advocate overthrow of the Government dont belong on FR, let the rest of us know. You can turn FR into an obscure fringe extremist site if that’s your wish.
As the Beatles put it:
“When you talk about destruction, don’t you know that you can count me out”
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