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Rafsanjani fans flames of dissent
BBC ^ | Friday, 17 July 2009 19:15 UK 18:15 GMT | Jon Leyne

Posted on 07/18/2009 4:50:02 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Under the headline of a call for unity, former Iranian President Ali Akbar Rafsanjani has actually ensured that the divisions in Iran will continue and possibly increase.

Mr Rafsanjani's first public comments since the election were eagerly awaited.

It was clear the government was extremely nervous: media coverage of Friday prayers was restricted.

Some journalists and opposition supporters reported problems over being allowed access to the ceremony at Tehran University.

No doubt there was a fierce battle behind the scenes for him to be allowed to speak.

Open challenge

Since the election more moderate voices appear to have been sidelined as the rota of Friday prayer speakers was drawn up.

Even some opposition members were uncertain about whether he would offer them support.

Former Iranian President Ali Akbar Rafsanjani in Tehran, Iran, on 17 July 2009
Mr Rafsanjani played his trump card: his friendship with Ayatollah Khomeini

In the end they may be satisfied that he kept their grievances alive.

By calling for an open debate about the election result, Mr Rafsanjani was almost openly challenging the supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.

Four weeks ago, from the same pulpit, Mr Khamenei called for an end to discussion about an election result which he declared had been blessed by God.

Former President Rafsanjani played his trump card, by referring to his friendship with the founder of the Islamic Republic, Ayatollah Khomeini.

He quoted Ayatollah Khomeini in ways that appeared to support the opposition's right to demonstrate.

Mr Rafsanjani even called for protesters who have been arrested to be released from prison.

Ahmadinejad weakened?

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iran; iranviolence2009; khomeini; rafsanjani

1 posted on 07/18/2009 4:50:02 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: csense; NormsRevenge; jveritas; SandRat; Straight Vermonter; GeronL; Fred Nerks; Starman417; ...
Thought this would be an interesting opinion article .
2 posted on 07/18/2009 4:52:05 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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Interesting coments at the BBC Website:

Have Your Say--How big a challenge is sermon to Iran's leader?

Former Iranian President Rafsanjani has reopened the debate about the country's disputed presidential election. How much of a challenge is this to the supreme leader?

In his first sermon at Friday prayers since the election, Mr Rafsanjani said many Iranians doubted the official election results and said this had created a 'crisis'.

Mr Rafsanjani called for the release of people detained during the post-election unrest and said media restrictions should be eased.

Outside Tehran University where he was speaking, police used tear gas and batons to disperse supporters of the opposition leader.

How much of a challenge is Mr Rafsanjani's sermon to Iran's supreme leader? Do you think his call for the release of prisoners will be heeded? How will his sermon be received by president Ahmadinejad?

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Published: Friday, 17 July, 2009, 11:05 GMT 12:05 UK

3 posted on 07/18/2009 4:58:32 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
IMHO, it's gone beyond Mousavi and Rafsanjani now...and I think Rafsanjani knows it and is keeping his options open.

Those people want to be free and they have shed their blood in the effort...and they keep coming back. It's not over by a long shot.

That's because George Bush's legacy endures in the Mid East, despite, and in spite of Obama, and THAT is Obama's real dilema.

It was George Bush's policy of direct engagement and support of liberty that has led to the people of Iran seeing the measure of freedom now established on both sides of them in Iraq and Afghjanistan...and desiring it for themselves.

Obama cannot possibly go too far in recognizing that, or he absolutely repudiates himself and his entire foreign policy.

So the fight in Iran goes on, even weeks after the major events.

Large protests resume in Tehran, July 17, 2009

Tipping Point in Iran July 14, 2009

Iran cleric criticixes Tehran regime, issues fatwa July 13, 2009

Thousands defy crackdown & protest in Tehran July 9, 2009

New Demonstrations bring new violence July 9, 2009

Clerics in Qum defy Khamenie, say election illegitimate, July 5, 2009

6/24/2009 - Not all fights on June 24th were losses - Iranian people take back streets from Basif

Others were not.

Eyewitness Account to Slaughter in Iran 6/24/2009

While brave Iranians are slaughtered in the street by their own government as they seek liberty, Obama disinvited Iranian officials to American 4th of July celebration.

Meanwhile, they are axing students to death.



Young Woman (Neda) shot to death in Terhran. 6/20/2009

Crowd Hunting Basij, Man shot. 6/20/2009




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4 posted on 07/18/2009 5:03:15 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Rafsanjani is just cruising to become a martyr

5 posted on 07/18/2009 5:03:30 PM PDT by GeronL (UnitedCitizen.Blogspot.Com --------- United Citizens Nation! ------------- Join Today!)
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AS the lefties say....It's Bush's Fault
6 posted on 07/18/2009 5:10:36 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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Might be the most Honorable thing he has ever done!

7 posted on 07/18/2009 5:11:17 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Support Geert Wilders)
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8 posted on 07/18/2009 5:12:31 PM PDT by GeronL (UnitedCitizen.Blogspot.Com --------- United Citizens Nation! ------------- Join Today!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Former President Rafsanjani:
I knew the Ayatollah Khomeni. The Ayatollah Khomeni was a friend of mine, and you, (Ahmadenijad, Khameni) are no Ayatollah Khomeni. ;o)
9 posted on 07/18/2009 5:53:38 PM PDT by SuziQ
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10 posted on 07/18/2009 6:21:11 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Neda Agha-Soltan - murdered by illegitimate government)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

He just gave Khamenei a thumbs up (Iranian version of the middle finger).

Cracks are forming in the regime. How long till it collapses is the question....

11 posted on 07/18/2009 6:43:42 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Other then those that have actually been part of the inner works within the upper echelon of theocratic power in Iran, most probably no one understands the intricate person to person relationships among the top group of Mullah.
For all we know they may think little of one another in the reality of things but stay bound to keep one another rich, fat, and content. And we really do not know just how much credence they hold one supreme authority in hand. That is... do they play games... where they pretend the Supreme Leader welds ultimate power, surely a activity not shared by all sects of the Islamic cult, in order to allow for some resemblance of order within their theocratic society, or do they actually believe the Supreme Leader somehow is special in the eye's of the black rock idol, and therefore cannot be challenged.
It probably comes down to the long held view that they are nothing but a bunch of self serving thugs, that use their so called religion as an excuse to rule over their subjects, and therefore are subject to the whims of any criminal type.
If the later suggestion is within the reality of things then perhaps Raffy is actually setting himself up to take charge.
He has made it clear now, that the Grand Ayatollah Khameni's declaration that allah has given his blessings upon the recent election, is camel shit.
Therefore the GAK must not have a direct line to allah, therefore he can get trashed if required.
And Raffy also made it clear that he knew the likes of the GA Khomenei way back when. Sort of a slap in the face if you ask me.
One things now seems for sure. The core groups of protesters have not really dwindled. Most likely they are increasing in numbers nation wide.
12 posted on 07/18/2009 7:37:52 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle
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