[AAABEST]

Wow, the ACLU is defending this guy. Kudos to them in this particular case.

I guess pigs do fly every now and again.

[AAABEST]

ping

[paul51]

Phelps said residents have a right to possess and carry firearms, but that “there is a fine line between the protection of an individual’s rights and the protection of a law enforcement officer.”

Yes there is and the COP crossed it.

[bitterohiogunclinger]

“Phelps said residents have a right to possess and carry firearms, but that “there is a fine line between the protection of an individual’s rights and the protection of a law enforcement officer.”
Now, show me the clause in the Constitution that elevates law enforcement officers above individual rights?
What legal premise do police officers have for confiscating the firearm in the first place? Would they act the same way if you substituted “a radio” in place of “a firearm”?

[LooneyTick]

A blind hog will find an acorn once in a while!

[Travis McGee]

Way to go Bill MIller! SEasoned citizens rock!

[IllumiNaughtyByNature]

I am not sure the police officer did anything wrong. This quote is from the Texas CHL website.

A trooper may disarm a licensee anytime he or she feels that safety is at risk. The trooper will return the gun at the end of the traffic stop when the threat to safety has passed.

So where is the problem if, after checking, the gun was returned and no voilation cited?

[I see my hands]

I agree, in spades, with the prevailing sentiments expressed so far. But it is a good idea to profile. If a mid east turban is walking down a mid west ‘burban street with a slingshot or an AK I’d like the cops to be preemptive.

How do you do that?

[SUSSA]

I hope the ACLU gets him $5,000,000.00 plus lawyers’ fees. I also hope the cops get tried and convicted of violating his civil rights under color of law and do time in a federal pen.

This crap has to stop.

[Tainan]

Loveland, Ohio?

Where?

[LoneRangerMassachusetts]

Wow, the ACLU is defending this guy. Kudos to them in this particular case.

I guess pigs do fly every now and again.

I see an opportunity for the ACLU to lose and set precedent unfavorable to carrying. No cheers from me.

[Dust in the Wind]

"The police officers, according to the ACLU’s letter, seized Miller’s pistol “without consent, and emptied it of ammunition.”

The officers then ordered Miller to give them his driver’s license, over his objections.

After checking with dispatchers, the officers found that both the gun and Miller were clear of any issues, and they returned Miller’s gun and license."

Sooo; what happened to the ammunition?

[Dayman]

The police had no right to even talk to this man on the basis of him having a firearm. Terry V. Ohio makes it clear that an anonymous MWAG call is not RAS for a terry stop. Those police officers should be fired, as should anyone who harasses a man with a firearm who is not engaged in unlawful activity.

If the police are so concerned about their own safety then maybe they shouldn’t have approached him in the first place.

[stevie_d_64]

http://www.opencarry.org/co.html

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Colorado has become a little tricky as it appears some changes in attitude, and some laws, have occurred...

As far as the Texas CHL forum website discussion on this issue...That website has some of the best discussion on pro-gun and gun-control issues I have seen in many years...The knowledge base is second to none...Texas may have some interesting things and conditions per the carry law in our state, but there are many from out of state that come in and participate in a very constructive manner...

Many on Free Republic know this already...

[mvpel]

Phelps said residents have a right to possess and carry firearms, but that “there is a fine line between the protection of an individual’s rights and the protection of a law enforcement officer.”

That "fine line" BS must be part of the instruction manual on how to respond to a complaint about open carry harassment. I got it from Manchester, NH police and the NH attorney general too.

[lentulusgracchus]

Hmmmm, no indications in the story, as to where this took place. "Loveland" where?

[dsc]

“I guess pigs do fly every now and again.”

A lie succeeds best when she baits her hook with a little truth.

[Freedom2specul8]

Ping~

[bamahead]

The police officers, according to the ACLU’s letter, seized Miller’s pistol “without consent, and emptied it of ammunition.”



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[thefactor]

is there any way to know in what state this occurred?

it's not in the title, excerpt, or key words. would be nice to know.