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Shock: Inside the Healthcare Bill
Economic Policy Journal ^ | 7/20/09 | Robert Wenzel

Posted on 07/21/2009 7:14:12 AM PDT by FromLori

Edited on 07/21/2009 1:37:04 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: woollyone; Robert DeLong; Semperfiwife
An end-of-life order is any order given by you to your doctor concerning your treatment. It's not a term from the bill, but one I've heard before. It covers everything from a DNR to a living will that says, "Keep me alive as long as possible by any means possible."

I'd suggezst taking this list with a grain of salt. Ive read the section about these orders, and though it's quite unconstitutional it doesn't give anyone in government "a say in how ur life ends."

221 posted on 07/21/2009 3:02:01 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (We're definitely in the Rise of the Empire era, but is Obama Valorum or Palpatine?)
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To: kempster

Pre-existing conditions are accepted.

SEC. 111. PROHIBITING PRE-EXISTING CONDITION EXCLUSIONS.

A qualified health benefits plan may not impose any pre-existing condition exclusion (as defined in section 2701(b)(1)(A) of the Public Health Service Act) or otherwise impose any limit or condition on the coverage under the plan with respect to an individual or dependent based on any health status-related factors (as defined in section 2791(d)(9) of the Public Health Service Act) in relation to the individual or dependent.


So far so good. This is already standard for private group-health plans.

The problem is that ObamaCare will arbitrarily decide when to stop treating your condition due to “outcome based measures” (Sec 1162(3)(b)(ii)) of “comparative effectiveness research” (Sec 1181).

So basically if you too old or otherwise deemed undesirable, your treatments (kidney dialysis, etc) will simply be stopped.


222 posted on 07/21/2009 3:10:33 PM PDT by Gideon7
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To: silverleaf

>> Maybe its time for a whole raftload of conservative Americans to sign up for membership in ACORN-and start going to their meetings

Great benefits plus- wouldn’t that just make for some wonderful insider reporting <<

I like your idea, they can make an account here on free republic Like ACORN-SPY-#0001. Reporting from the front lines. Though will ACORN hire people who are already gainfully employed or self-employed??


223 posted on 07/21/2009 3:17:29 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: GraceG

>> Though will ACORN hire people who are already gainfully employed or self-employed?? <<

I guess just wait few months and there will be more unemployed conservatives.


224 posted on 07/21/2009 3:18:26 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: angelcindy

“TIME TO SURROUND WASHINGTON!!!!”

That is coming up and the date is September 12th.


225 posted on 07/21/2009 3:19:41 PM PDT by jcsjcm (Upholding the Constitution til my last breath)
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To: Marty62

Our side needs to FLOOD the TV and Internet with commercials highlighting the most horrific tenets of this bill. Read directly from it and then pictorialize it.


226 posted on 07/21/2009 3:33:27 PM PDT by 1951Boomer
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To: gidget7

What was the name of the new “Czar”, who wrote a textbook advocating Eugenics? Is it the new science czar (or commissar might be a better word)? People like that are the ones making policy. I think a lot of these bills were written up by Marxist/leftists before Obama was ever elected.


227 posted on 07/21/2009 3:36:08 PM PDT by boxlunch
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To: HonestConservative

If this passes, you can bet that the ones making life-and-death decisions will be petty bureaucrats—fat ACORN employees—who barely speak/write English, sit and pick their nails, and talk on the phone to their BF all day while rubber stamping document after document.


228 posted on 07/21/2009 3:38:37 PM PDT by 1951Boomer
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To: FromLori
Shock...Who wrote this bill?

This bill has been written, in more or less this form, for forty years.

You just haven't been paying attention to the American communist movement. They have been clear...crystal clear...about their goals and objectives.

And, now, they think they have won and no one can stop them.

We shall see. Give it 12-18 months, and I think what TASS always used to refer to as the "correlation of forces" will have shifted just a bit.

What form that will take, it's too soon to know.

But the reds now in power don't have the force to apply that they think they do, and the contrary tendencies (real Americans) may turn out to be more powerful than this rabble in power can imagine.

Interesting times.

229 posted on 07/21/2009 3:43:01 PM PDT by Jim Noble (I hope Sarah will start a 2nd party soon)
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To: boxlunch

Yes it was him, Holdren or something equally close to Holder. His whole administration is full of such types.


230 posted on 07/21/2009 3:47:05 PM PDT by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: angelcindy

“TIME TO SURROUND WASHINGTON!!!!”

With Torches and Pick forks


231 posted on 07/21/2009 3:50:15 PM PDT by DAC21
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To: cajungirl

I’ve decided to ping you to threads FYI, feel free to request I cease.


232 posted on 07/21/2009 3:51:02 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Ez 38 Pray.)
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To: Coleus; nickcarraway; narses; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; TenthAmendmentChampion; ...
This is almost as pathetic and inefficient as the Soviet System.

This must be defeated and it's promoters removed from government.

233 posted on 07/21/2009 3:53:10 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available FREE at KnightsForLife.org)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
What is that green flag, pray tell?

It looks like a seagull about to dive-bomb an unsuspecting tourist with a "bird turd".

Cheers!

234 posted on 07/21/2009 3:56:38 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: FromLori

235 posted on 07/21/2009 3:58:30 PM PDT by Typical_Whitey (Obama intends to bankrupt the USA and force the CHANGE to Socialism.)
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To: ninergold3
Tell him to go watch the movie "The Unbearable Lightness of Being." Tell him to note that under Communist rule (socialism), the protagonist, Tomas went from being a neurosurgeon to a window washer or somesuch.

Cheers!

236 posted on 07/21/2009 4:00:00 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: FromLori

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237 posted on 07/21/2009 4:01:21 PM PDT by mockingbyrd (Boehner Baby!!!)
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To: Constitutions Grandchild
Already sent it to our Senior Partner for analysis. I’m “on it”. It’s time to rein in the lunatics who are attempting to take over the asylum.

Thank you and please let us know your findings from your analysis.

This is a full out assault on our individual rights and freedoms.

238 posted on 07/21/2009 4:02:29 PM PDT by kara2008 (Government cannot be the solution when government is the problem)
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To: FromLori

I’m sorry — this bill makes the government a murdering beast. That means we have a horrible duty to preserve our own lives we may have to start taking theirs — that is the lives of the bureaucrats and legislators and judges who would dare implement these murderous provisions called “End of Life”.

I do remember what happened to Terri Schindler. I will not allow it to happen to anyone I love.


239 posted on 07/21/2009 4:07:18 PM PDT by bvw
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To: FromLori
Oh who cares, what's on TV tonight?

(what will it take for the millions of American drones to wake up, or will they never?)

240 posted on 07/21/2009 4:08:23 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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