Dobbs embraces Birthers

Politico ^ | 7/21/09 | Ben Smith

[pissant]

Yes, I have.

It is irrefutable that the COLB he posted has been tampered with and is not a legit, legal 2007 state issued COLB.

You support the contention of the lying SOS Obama that it is legit.

It is irrefutable that the DailyKos and Factcheck and Fight the smears are run by left wing liars.

You support their contention that they are on the up and up regarding the COLB.

It is irrefutable that HI allows changes to birth records, changes that could be reflected on the COLB but not the original BC.

You support the notion that is impossible in Obama’s case.

It is irrefutable that Obama could with a single call or letter, release his real BC to the public.

You support Obama’s position that he has no obligation to prove his birth circumstances.

It is irrefutable that Obama (or taxpayers on his behalf) has spent large sums of money to keep the BC from being released.

You support Obama’s contention he has nothing to hide.

In other words, you are Obama’s jock strap.

[ckilmer]

A detroit radio station called the Kenyan embassy after the election of Obama. After a a few minutes they get through to the ambassador of Kenya.

The ambassador of Kenya says that obama was born in Kenya and that his birth place has become a national shrine.

Listen to the recording here

The quote is around 12:35, so if you don’t have time to listen to the whole thing, you can jump ahead.
The transcript reads:

Radio Jockey: President elect Obama's birth place over in Kenya -- is that going to be a national spot where he was born

Ambassador Peter Ogego: its already an attraction. his paternal grandmother is still alive

Radio Jockey:But his birth place...they'll put up a marker there

Ambassdor Peter Ogego: It would depend on the government. Its already well known.

Here is an abridged Utube version of the the radio interview. So you can hear just the relevant parts.

It can be reasonably pointed out that the DJ was trying to entrap the Ambassador and that the Ambassador fell into his trap.
However, if you listen to the long version of the radio interview --you’ll notice he used the same strategy on two different occasions and the ambassador gently brushed him off.

First, he tried to force the ambassador to sing the Kenyan national anthem. The ambassador referred him to the kenyan website.

Second he tried to push the ambassador into saying something about maybe Kenya becoming the 51st state. Again the ambassador said that Kenya was a sovereign country. ie No.

He used the same technique on the question of Obama’s birth place. This time the ambassador did not brush him off. Rather in answer to the question as to whether Obama was born in Kenya --he says "It is well known."

Because the ambassador answered no in the two previous examples -- you can't say that the ambassdor was either a fool or ill advised.

Finally, you might ask well doesn't he know that saying Obama is born in Kenya would make trouble for Obama? The answer there is why should he be concerned? He has heard no suggestion in the mainstream media that there might be a problem there. So to say what is already well known--as he says--would be no problem.

Here is a utube video of Ambassador Peter Ogego speaking at a conference. Ambassador of Kenya H.E. Peter Ogego To verify that the voice on the radio is Ambassador Ogego-- compare the radio voice with the DJ to the voice on the Utube that goes with Ambassador Ogego. Ambassador Peter Ogego is introduced a bit after minute 18..

They are the same.


Subsequently, the Kenyan ambassador said that he meant Obama's father was born in Kenya. However, when pressed about Obama's birth place:

"I don't know," he said with a tone of irritation. "You should ask your government. I know his father is Kenyan."

However, that's not what the original transcript suggests. clear="all" /> Finally, there is a Affidavit of Bishop Ron McRae which is part of the Berg case. The Bishop says pretty much the same thing as the Ambassador.

"Additionally, it is common knowledge throughout both the Christian and Muslim communities in Kenya, that contrary to news media propaganda here in the United States, US Senator Barack Obama is a Muslim and not a Christian, and that he was born in Mombasa, Kenya and not in the State of Hawaii as falsely purported by the Obama campaign for presidency of the United States."

While you cannot impeach the ambassador's character, you can impeach McCrae's character. After all, he's just an itinerant preacher. But McCrae has been to Kenya. Still that makes two people who say that it is common knowledge in Kenya that Obama was born in Kenya.
Then of course there is a video of Obama's grandmother saying that Obama is born in Kenya
There is a case to be made that Obama mother didn't mean Obama was born in Kenya but rather that he is a "son of this village". However, witnesses insist that she said she was present at obama's birth in Kenya. If taken alone, perhaps she could well be ignored. However, her take is in keeping with others both high and low.

Again here is a pdf transcript of Kenyan National Assembly on Nov 5, 2008, the day after Obama was elected. Over and over again there are references to Obama being a "son of the soil" of Kenya and a Kenyan. On page page 3275 there is this passage:

HOUSE SHOULD ADJOURN TO DISCUSS ELECTION OF MR. BARRACK OBAMA

Ms. Odhiambo: On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. It is not on this issue. I stand on a point of order under Standing Order No.20 to seek leave for adjournment of the House to discuss the American presidential election results.

(Applause)

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the President-elect, Mr. Obama, is a son of the soil of this country. Every other country in this continent is celebrating the Obama win. It is only proper and fitting that the country which he originates from should show the same excitement, pomp and colour.



Again. It is not the one thing. Rather it is the tide.

In July 2009 a Ghanian newspapersays of Obama that ""For Ghana, Obama's visit will be a celebration of another milestone in African history as it hosts the first-ever African-American president on this presidential visit to the continent of his birth," The American Thinker explains here why Obama's short form released by fightthesmears is not sufficient for Hawaii. There is evidence to suggest that the home named in the newspaper archived article as the place where Obama was born -- was lived in by a couple not Obama's parents. Even the Honalulu Advertiser has a different address of record for Obama's father than the one listed newspaper birth listing. The hospital where Obama claims he was born--refuses to either confirm or deny that he was in fact born there--and that despite the fact that Obama has said he was born there in writing--and presented the hospital a memo to that effect...right after he was elected. What's more newspaper accounts of his birth place him in other hospitals around Hawaii. None of these will comment either.

Again. It is not the one thing. Rather it is the tide.

The Obama administration could put this to rest by releasing his long form birth certificate. But he doesn't. Instead of just releasing his long form birth certificate he has paid his lawyers over 1 million dollars from campaign contributions since Sept 08 to squash the suits brought on the issue. Why bother. The Arnold would have run for president long ago and likely won if he were a "natural born" american. He's not. He's naturalized. So he can't run. And he knows it. (though there were some trial balloons sent up a couple years back about changing the law--that went nowhere.)

Like the Arnold, Obama looks to be a naturalized citizen--but maybe he's not even that. Here's a footnoted timeline of obama's life 1961-2008. Its especially helpful to look at 1961 and 2008. Of interest is this: Interesting timeline with footnotes of obama's life.

of note

On April 10, 2008 Senator Claire McCaskill (D-MO) introduces Senate Resolution S. Res. 511 to “recognize that John Sidney McCain is a natural born citizen.” The resolution is allegedly meant to clarify that McCain is eligible to be President even though he was born in Panama. Because McCain’s parents were both Americans and he was born in Panama because his father was stationed there while in the military, existing law already covers McCain and he is eligible to be President. McCaskill’s resolution thus serves no purpose – except that language is included to try and provide a “blanket cover” for other foreign born candidates without military backgrounds, in order to enable Obama to be eligible to be President. This is the language that Obama inserted “Whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside of the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President;” This Clause has no particular relevance to McCain [The language is inserted by Obama.][301,303]

301# http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/10/11/obama-born-in-kenya-new-information/#more-3844

303 # http://watchdog.net/b/us/110/sr511

Obama's Senate efforts to airbrush his past were augmented by his top Intelligence Advisor in March 2008. Obama's Intelligence Adviser Involved in Security Breach. Obama’s top terrorism and intelligence adviser, John O. Brennan, heads a firm that was cited in March [2008] for breaching sensitive files in the State Department’s passport office, according to a State Department Inspector General’s report released this past July. The security breach, first reported by the Washington Times and later confirmed by State Department spokesman Sean McCormack, involved a contract employee of Brennan’s firm, The Analysis Corp., which has earned millions of dollars providing intelligence-related consulting services to federal agencies and private companies. During a State Department briefing on March 21, 2008, McCormack confirmed that the contractor had accessed the passport files of presidential candidates Barack Obama, Hillary Rodham Clinton, and John McCain, and that the inspector general had launched an investigation. Sources who tracked the investigation tell Newsmax that the main target of the breach was the Obama passport file, and that the contractor accessed the file in order to “cauterize” the records of potentially embarrassing information. In this video of Obama's reaction to the break in...he says twice that his reason for being concerned about the matter is not that he is concerned about what the records may reveal about himself...but rather etc. One denial is ok. Two denials in short order is of a piece with the other anomolies in his record.

[stuartcr]

So?

[noah]

Not so fast.

There’s a lot of stuff that needs to be straightened out, including the last election.

[stuartcr]

Again, so?

[metalurgist]

Yeah, the sooner we find out the truth, the sooner Biden gets to be president.

He may be a mindless idiot, but at least he's an American. We can survive American idiots, because they at least look at things with an American prospective. Kenyan Marxists don't.

[stuartcr]

Sounds great

[frog in a pot]

Thanks for this link, it very tempting.

“I have no idea what the reality is here,”

Dobbs is an intelligent man and he
knows his program did an unprofessional whack job on Orly Taitz and Amb. Keyes;
knows the Democrats;
knows the record has been scrubbed;
knows O has not provided a verifiably authentic BC;
knows O has spent big bucks trying to prevent disclosure of his BC;
knows that there is no credible reason to believe O is legitimate but suspects some know for sure he isn’t; and he
knows that his audience and the general public is not buying the cover up.

But, he is in a tight spot surrounded in the workplace by liberals and in a contact with the liberal-enabling CNN, and has to enter the issue sideways.

He needs some time to make it happen.

[Star Traveler]

No, sorry... I support doing something that actually *works*... LOL...

You know..., like what I’ve been saying all along that is *guaranteed* to work, you know... stuff that normal people do — not those of the “Obama Derangement Syndrome” types... :-)

And that’s to get state laws enacted with require specific documentation in order for a candidate to be on the ballot. If they don’t supply it, they can’t be on the ballot.

Oklahoma, Azrizona and Missouri started that process in their legislatures, but the one in Oklahoma failed to get through this session. I’m going to be working on that one again the next session, too. As far as the other two states, I don’t know the status, but I’m sure the citizens there do.

That’s the sort of action that is what “rational” people do — stuff that works... LOL..., not of the “Obama Derangement Syndrome” mentality... :-)

[cripplecreek]

Its just a gut feeling that Biden actually cares about America. He may be wrong about pretty much everything but I don’t see him intentionally harming the country.

[Brookhaven]

Why would the whole election be ineligible?

The election (which chooses the members of the electorial college would be valid. Remember, you actually vote for electors when you vote.

He would be the president, until things got straightened out, which, realistically, would probably take us to the next election.

No, remember the electorial college vote is what counts. The supreme court would probably nullify the EC votes that were cast for Obama (because they were cast for a constitutionally ineligable candidate.) My guess is they would say the EC never cast a majority of votes for a candidae. The Constitution has a provisiton in case that happens, and they would follow those provisions (which I believe puts it into the hands of the Senate.)

Why would the losers and the ex-pres, be put into power? Besides, do you think congress would let that happen?

Bush's term has constinutionally ended. There are not constitutional provisions for extending a president's term (thank God.) I'm really not sure who would be acting as interm president (or if we would even have one), but I'm sure it wouldn't be Bush.

The interesting question to me is the laws Obama signed into law (and the executive orders he issued.) I'm assuming they would all be struck down.

[cripplecreek]

So what are you doing that’s working so well?

[pissant]

And you think freepers don’t support such laws? I ripped my Sec of State (WA) a new one over this very issue. I’ve also emailed all the folks in the US Congress that have sponsored the federal legislation requiring a BC going forward.

But trust me, at least a couple of states WILL pass the verification laws. Because the crazy “birthers” demand it.

In the mean time, you may continue to accept the fraud Obama as legit. And according to you, he won’t have to worry about any new verification laws either, because he’s legit. Good luck with that.

[Wolfie]

Obama’s not going anywhere, regardless of the truth. Can you seriously imagine if he was removed from office? Yikes. Makes me glad I live out in the sticks.

[FreeAtlanta]

How dare you call Hillary a commie slut... oh, you said a commie nut. }:-)

[McGruff]

Lou Dobbs isn’t the kind of person you want to attempt to discredit but democrats don’t seem smart enough to realize that. And that’s a good thing.

[Non-Sequitur]

I have often wondered about this...If he is deemed ineligible, is not the whole election then ineligible?

If Biden is deemed ineligible then Pelosi is president.

Shouldn't Bush/Cheney go back to the White House until a new election can take place?

No. Two terms is all that's allowed.

Or would McCain/Palin assume power?

No, they lost the election.

[pissant]

Be the best thing to happen to America since Reagan’s election.

[mrmeyer]

Also, if Biden knew and was complicit in covering it up, what does that mean for him? High crimes and misdemeanors?

[Exit148]

The lesser of two evils. And you can believe that he’d behave himelf.