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HR 2749: Food Safety’s Scorched Earth Policy
Farm Wars ^ | 7/22/09

Posted on 07/23/2009 5:11:36 AM PDT by FromLori

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To: nw_arizona_granny; appleseed; bamahead; Eric Blair 2084

Nanny and socialism ping

This is ridiculous.

Did they ever stop to think about all the critters that live underground?

The nocturnal ones that nobody sees because they come out at night?

The birds that fly over everything and poop everywhere?

What’s wrong with our politicians? Is being certifiable now a requirement for holding political office?


41 posted on 07/23/2009 8:52:25 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Eagle50AE

No surprise that they’re all Communists.


42 posted on 07/23/2009 8:56:50 AM PDT by wastedyears (The Tree is thirsty and the hogs are hungry.)
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To: Eagle50AE; All
More on HR 2749

 Food bill would hurt small farmers
Kansas City Star - MO,USA
If your friends farm, or if you were to take up farming for more than your family, you could be under a kind of FDA martial law with the passing of HR 2749, ...
'Food' discussion highlights local farming
Bangor Daily News - Bangor,ME,USA
Panelists and some in the audience urged people to pay attention to HR 2749, a federal food security bill that they said could make doing business a lot ...
 Farm Groups Say Food Safety Bill Would Make it Tougher for Farmers ...
CNSNews.com - Alexandria,VA,USA
“In recent weeks some concerns have been raised about HR 2749, many on the Internet, suggesting almost apocalyptic outcomes for farmers if the bill becomes ...
CONFER: The federal assaults on farms
Tonawanda News - North Tonawanda,NY,USA
HR 2749 would give the FDA almost unlimited power that would touch on every facet of ... HR 2749 is just another in a long line of attacks on capitalism and ...
Food Safety Bill Triggers Fight
Farm Futures - Carol Stream,IL,USA
Although there was much bipartisan support of HR 2749, a food safety bill, earlier this year, after several farm and livestock organizations testified ...
 New food safety bill needs to be stopped
The Newark Advocate - Newark,OH,USA
A new food safety bill is on the fast track in Congress -- HR 2749, ... HR 2749 gives FDA tremendous power while significantly diminishing existing judicial ...
 The high cost of cheap food
Denver Post - Denver,CO,USA
What the passing of HR 875 and 2749 could mean is a loss of organic, small-farm options and a reduction of both the shopper's autonomy and the good things ...
 Muzzle FDA
Northwest Herald - Crystal Lake,IL,USA
Large corporate farming? A new law no doubt. Only genetically modified food can claim any health benefits. I'm opposed to this bill (HR 2749).
 
Letter: HR 2749 rejects 'choice' of foods
St. Augustine Record - St. Augustine,FL,USA
Editor: I urge Congress not to pass HR 2749, Food Safety Enhancement Act. I highly object to the take over of our food supply by corporations such as ...
NPPC: Resolve Issues Before Passing Food-Safety Bill
CattleNetwork.com - Overland Park,KS,USA
As written, the bill would change the standard to allow on-farm inspections if food is “thought to be adulterated, misbranded or in violation of HR 2749. ...

43 posted on 07/23/2009 9:11:29 AM PDT by DelaWhere (Support Cap 'n Trade - CAP TAXES & SPENDING. TRADE CONGRESS FOR REAL PUBLIC SERVANTS.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

This should definitely be of interest to your weekly gardening list, and anybody who eats!

Having followed these types of issues for years, I can explain what is happening.

The processors and distributors (often transnational corporations) want to put the onus for food safety on the farmer so they can cut corners and save costs on food safety and sanitation in their own plants.

In their warped world view, if the fields are made completely sterile of everything except the crop, then they don’t have to have a lab, a technician to check the facility and product for contamination, nor expensive pesky food safety procedures and equipment.

Before Bill Clinton signed an executive order for harmonizing our food safety laws with the WTO and UN sponsored rules and Codex Alimentarius group, companies had food safety engineers or technicians, which regularly tested the products. The county state and federal governments all had agencies and inspectors and working together with the Ag university extension offices, America developed the safest food supply in the world.

Under harmonization with international ‘rules’, the transnational corporations and in country producers became their own inspectors. Our government’s cut the FDA and Food and Ag inspectors keeping in line with the internationalist’s mantra that any prohibitions on the transnational corporations by the government was a ‘barrier’ to free trade.

So now we have a system, for example, where the company that produced the e coli tainted lettuce wasn’t properly maintaining the cleanliness of their system ostensibly for cutting costs. Because they are the only ones responsible for maintaining their sanitation at their site , no inspectors checked their site or process. THEY washed the spinach in e coli contaminated wash water but blamed a farmer and some wild hogs which have been living next to Salinas valley farms ever since farms were started there. However, the ‘crisis’ they created resulted in all row crop farmers having to sterilize their fields of all animal life. What do you think the effect on the environment is when you have poison bait traps every 50 feet around your fields to poison rodents which may enter the field? How do you think it affects the raptors and other animals that prey on the rodents? How do you think their water rules affect the crop and the land? Especially since they don’t want water to run off a farm, as it would do in a natural watershed? How do you think that it would affect the natural environment off the farm?

The ideas expressed here are purely communist, in that, these food dictators believe in the communist notion that every thing is a system that human beings with ‘perfect knowledge’, that is trained communists, can control to be the perfect producing machines to meet the ‘needs’ of society. Well their machine kills people and destroys the environment, and isn’t that what we have always seen is the result of communistic control?


44 posted on 07/23/2009 9:16:05 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: DelaWhere

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45 posted on 07/23/2009 9:16:53 AM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF*GOA*SAS*CCRKBA)
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To: Eagle50AE; All
More on HR 2749

 Food bill would hurt small farmers
Kansas City Star - MO,USA
If your friends farm, or if you were to take up farming for more than your family, you could be under a kind of FDA martial law with the passing of HR 2749, ...
'Food' discussion highlights local farming
Bangor Daily News - Bangor,ME,USA
Panelists and some in the audience urged people to pay attention to HR 2749, a federal food security bill that they said could make doing business a lot ...
 Farm Groups Say Food Safety Bill Would Make it Tougher for Farmers ...
CNSNews.com - Alexandria,VA,USA
“In recent weeks some concerns have been raised about HR 2749, many on the Internet, suggesting almost apocalyptic outcomes for farmers if the bill becomes ...
CONFER: The federal assaults on farms
Tonawanda News - North Tonawanda,NY,USA
HR 2749 would give the FDA almost unlimited power that would touch on every facet of ... HR 2749 is just another in a long line of attacks on capitalism and ...
Food Safety Bill Triggers Fight
Farm Futures - Carol Stream,IL,USA
Although there was much bipartisan support of HR 2749, a food safety bill, earlier this year, after several farm and livestock organizations testified ...
 New food safety bill needs to be stopped
The Newark Advocate - Newark,OH,USA
A new food safety bill is on the fast track in Congress -- HR 2749, ... HR 2749 gives FDA tremendous power while significantly diminishing existing judicial ...
 The high cost of cheap food
Denver Post - Denver,CO,USA
What the passing of HR 875 and 2749 could mean is a loss of organic, small-farm options and a reduction of both the shopper's autonomy and the good things ...
 Muzzle FDA
Northwest Herald - Crystal Lake,IL,USA
Large corporate farming? A new law no doubt. Only genetically modified food can claim any health benefits. I'm opposed to this bill (HR 2749).
 
Letter: HR 2749 rejects 'choice' of foods
St. Augustine Record - St. Augustine,FL,USA
Editor: I urge Congress not to pass HR 2749, Food Safety Enhancement Act. I highly object to the take over of our food supply by corporations such as ...
NPPC: Resolve Issues Before Passing Food-Safety Bill
CattleNetwork.com - Overland Park,KS,USA
As written, the bill would change the standard to allow on-farm inspections if food is “thought to be adulterated, misbranded or in violation of HR 2749. ...

46 posted on 07/23/2009 9:17:52 AM PDT by DelaWhere (Support Cap 'n Trade - CAP TAXES & SPENDING. TRADE CONGRESS FOR REAL PUBLIC SERVANTS.)
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To: Daisyjane69
But don’t we all buy fresh seed every year?

No.

Some of us recognize that our plants actually produce seeds, save them, and use them the next year.

There's a difference between buying fresh seeds annually because it's convenient vs. because government has prohibited not doing so.

47 posted on 07/23/2009 9:23:46 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: CORedneck

Is “fatty liver” easily diagnosed? Just wondering. I imagine some of my relatives who are FATTIES have fatty livers....but, I’m wondering if less fat people have fatty livers too?


48 posted on 07/23/2009 9:47:12 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Abort the Obama Presidency, now!!!)
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To: FromLori
First they came after the small farmers, but I wasn't a small farmer, so I did nothing. Then they came after anyone who grew gardens because it was for human consumption and violated the new food laws and gardeners were hoarding and selfish. But I lived in the city, and didn't have a garden, so I said nothing. Then when the Monsanto frankenfoods started making us all sick, it was too late, because there was nothing else to eat. Millions died and we asked why is this happening to us? We want our country back, but it was too late. The giant corporations owned us too.

Think this is too far fetched? Think again!

49 posted on 07/23/2009 10:21:11 AM PDT by 1ofmanyfree ((No jobs, licenses,mortgages,bank accounts or amnesty for any illegal alien criminals ! ))
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50 posted on 07/23/2009 12:27:03 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: FromLori

This is absolute madness.


51 posted on 07/23/2009 12:29:15 PM PDT by americanophile (Sarcasm: satirical wit depending for its effect on bitter, caustic, and often ironic language.)
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To: ctdonath2

Plants produce seeds? Wow.

Uh, I’m an Ohio State University Master Gardener and I teach homeowner classes.

My curiosity comes from the fact that all seeds aren’t necessarily easy or convenient to save and store. It’s often just much easier to pick up fresh seed each season, especially for the home gardener who plants many varieties, albeit in smaller quantities. Nothing quite like sitting at home with the snow piling up outside, flipping through the next year gardening catalog.

I see this as being a far bigger problem with farmers; the inability to save seed. That could indeed be a large problem.

That said, just watching these clowns deciding how much of our health care they are going to take over makes me wonder how excited they are going to get over seeds. meh


52 posted on 07/23/2009 12:45:29 PM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: Concho

Where are the environmental nutjobs on this?

This seems like their one chance to do something useful.


53 posted on 07/23/2009 12:48:07 PM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: Daisyjane69

Ask a silly question...

Anyway, there’s a huge difference between buying seeds out of simple convenience vs. the alternative being illegal.
Will be a sad, dangerous day when it is illegal to collect homegrown seeds for next year’s use.


54 posted on 07/23/2009 12:58:25 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (John Galt was exiled.)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...
Dick Peixoto planted hedges of fennel and flowering cilantro around his organic vegetable fields in the Pajaro Valley near Watsonville to harbor beneficial insects, an alternative to pesticides. He has since ripped out such plants in the name of food safety, because his big customers demand sterile buffers around his crops. No vegetation. No water. No wildlife of any kind... The question that must be asked is, do we really want to destroy our local organic farming industry by poisoning ponds, bulldozing crops and killing wildlife all in the name of food safety?

55 posted on 07/23/2009 1:00:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Red_Devil 232; Diana in Wisconsin; girlangler; SunkenCiv; HungarianGypsy; Gabz

Not sure how much truth there is to this article or if it’s more scaremongering.

Not the part about the seeds but the part about having bare ground surrounding fields/crops. In most states it’s illegal to do that, esp close to waterways—creeks and rivers and stuff. Farmers are required to plant/sustain buffer zones.

Sounds like a damned if you do damned if you don’t situation for the farmers.


56 posted on 07/23/2009 6:11:21 PM PDT by gardengirl
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To: gardengirl

“Sounds like a damned if you do damned if you don’t situation for the farmers.”

It’s been that way since we came out of the ‘Dust Bowl Days’ when Mother Government stepped in and was hell-bent on ‘helping us’ all the way back then, wasn’t she?

And yet we’ve survived and thrived. ;)

‘In, around, under or through.’ Works for the Marines, works for me. ;)


57 posted on 07/23/2009 6:31:32 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: gardengirl

Nice thing about journalism is, with a press-release / talking-points based story like this, it isn’t likely to ever have a follow-up by another journalist.


58 posted on 07/23/2009 6:57:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: metmom

What’s wrong with our politicians? Is being certifiable now a requirement for holding political office?

Perhaps, not, but being an ignorant, arrogant, lying, cheating, stealing, crook and womanizer certainly seems to be.


59 posted on 07/24/2009 4:44:38 AM PDT by wita
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To: goodnesswins
It is diagnosed through blood test and ultrasound. I have the beginning stages of it and I have read up on it. Part of it is high triglycerides. I found this out back in the end of May. I have been reading it more and one of the major causes is high sugar items. I have been very careful what I have been eating especially the simple carbohydrates and to a certain extent, watch the saturated fat intake. I need to get in for another blood test to see where it is at. Also duringmy lunch hour at work, I do biking for about 40 minutes. I have lost some weight since then as well.

This started because my blood pressure was around 140/80 which since has gone down with the exercise.

Is “fatty liver” easily diagnosed? Just wondering. I imagine some of my relatives who are FATTIES have fatty livers....but, I’m wondering if less fat people have fatty livers too?
60 posted on 07/24/2009 6:18:27 AM PDT by CORedneck
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