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How to obtain a copy of Obama's original long-form birth certificate, legally. [Vanity]
State of Hawaii, Department of Vital Statistics, Section 338-18 ^ | 07/24/09 | None

Posted on 07/24/2009 10:34:42 PM PDT by rumrunner

According to Hawaii law, one must have a tangible interest in a birth certificate in order for the requestor to obtain the same.

http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2007/bills/sb1326_sd1_.pdf


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; obama; usurper
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The statue that controls in Hawaii Revised Statutes, Section 338-18.

The act in part states:

"The Department shall not...issue a certified copy of any such record or part thereof, unless it is shown that the applicant has a direct and tangible interest in the record." Section 2(b)

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The following persons shall be considered to have a direct and tangible interest in a public health statistics record:

1)The registrant;

2)The spouse of the registrant;

3)A parent of the registrant;

4)A descendant of the registrant;

5)A person having a common ancestor with the registrant..."

As can be seen clearly, Hawaii has specifically allowed those who are researching their family trees to obtain birth certificates of others. This is quite different and much more broadly worded than allowing only those descended from the registrant as in the class of permitted applicants. In essence, if one could find a person who shares a common ancestor with Obama, and that person agreed to obtain a certified copy of the birth certificate...

I am not a genealogical researcher, nor do I play one on television. But I do seem to remember this article http://www.mormontimes.com/people_news/newsmakers/?id=8167 in which Obama's family tree was partially revealed. "According to parish records uncovered by experts at the genealogy Web site Ancestry.com, Obama's sixth great-grandfather, Johann Conrad Woelflin, was born Jan. 29, 1729, in Besigheim, a small town north of Stuttgart on the Enz river where it feeds into the Neckar."

Since genealogists seem to have such delight in finding common ancestors, it would appear to be a simple task for those schooled in such a discipline. Maybe even in finding one person out in this wide world of ours who would put in an application to the State of Hawaii...

1 posted on 07/24/2009 10:34:43 PM PDT by rumrunner
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To: rumrunner
Hmmmm... you may be onto something here. Also, military personnel may have standing if challenging orders from a Hawaii base...
2 posted on 07/24/2009 10:38:12 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: rumrunner

How about Dick Cheney?

He does share common ancestry with Barack Obama.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article2677660.ece


3 posted on 07/24/2009 10:39:28 PM PDT by tellw
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To: rumrunner

I thought he was related to Cheney.

Dick, get busy.


4 posted on 07/24/2009 10:43:02 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: rumrunner

I think there was a media report that VP Cheney is a distant cousin.

Now that would be a hoot if VP Cheney obtained a certerfied copy and posted it on the web. Can you imagine how the MSM would throw fits about that? LOL

I would buy tickets to watch that fight, heheh.


5 posted on 07/24/2009 10:48:29 PM PDT by RebelTex (I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK!!)
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To: rumrunner
How about reason # 14, a police officer needing evidence for a criminal investigation?
6 posted on 07/24/2009 10:49:34 PM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: April Lexington

Bingo! This is exactly what I was going to post.


7 posted on 07/24/2009 10:49:37 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: RebelTex

I read here that Orly Taitz had ordered a BC via a relative of BO’s, but the wait would be a year long.


8 posted on 07/24/2009 10:49:48 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: pissant

Someone should ask Liz Cheney to request a copy.


9 posted on 07/24/2009 10:50:25 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: RebelTex

certerfied = certified

grrr - got to remember to proof read.


10 posted on 07/24/2009 10:51:45 PM PDT by RebelTex (I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK!!)
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To: rumrunner

Well then, we can ALL have access to Obama’s birth certificate... what with Noah and Adam. ;)


11 posted on 07/24/2009 10:53:24 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Smokeyblue

Does Frank Marshall Davis have any family members that went conservative on him?


12 posted on 07/24/2009 10:54:35 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: rumrunner
Here's the family.

Even if you found that one of these people would cooperate, Hawaii would certainly refuse to release the certificate without Obama's permission unless ordered to do so by a court. It would be necessary to hire a Hawaiian attorney.

Still, your idea might work. Congratulations on coming up with a new approach.

13 posted on 07/24/2009 10:57:30 PM PDT by TChad
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To: rumrunner

“The Department shall not...issue a certified copy of any such record or part thereof, unless it is shown that the applicant has a direct and tangible interest in the record.” Section 2(b)

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Ok, I’m not an attorney, but it seems that this language is sufficiently broad enugh that it can be interpreted to mean that others could obtain a copy of the BC if they had what the department considers to be a direct and tangible interest. My guess is that, if this is so, the Department has been bribed or coerced into denying access.


14 posted on 07/24/2009 10:58:07 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: pissant

Obama has an uncle in Chicago he would be able to get it.

I believe he once disputed a story that Obama said.


15 posted on 07/24/2009 10:59:02 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Steelfish

Great minds think alike!


16 posted on 07/24/2009 10:59:48 PM PDT by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: rumrunner
in essence, if one could find a person who shares a common ancestor with Obama, and that person agreed to obtain a certified copy of the birth certificate...

In theory fine....if you were looking up your long lost cousin Joe Smith. However, this is the President, and Hawaii officials (and everyone with a brain, including all judges up the the U.S. Supreme Court) knows that this could be a constitutional crises--hence FAT CHANCE of ever seeing a birth certificate--even if you were O's long lost twin brother.

The other most obvious issue is, most of us now believe there is NO Hawaii birth certificate to be found...

17 posted on 07/24/2009 11:07:11 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: pissant

re: Dick, get busy.

How many times have I uttered that!


18 posted on 07/24/2009 11:09:17 PM PDT by jwparkerjr (God Bless America!)
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To: RebelTex

I think there was a media report that VP Cheney is a distant cousin.

Now that would be a hoot if VP Cheney obtained a certerfied copy and posted it on the web. Can you imagine how the MSM would throw fits about that? LOL

I would buy tickets to watch that fight, heheh.
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Now that is some funny sh*t. I would pay to see that one unfold.


19 posted on 07/24/2009 11:13:34 PM PDT by mojitojoe (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: tellw
OMG Dick Cheney & Barack Obama are related.. would that be ironic if they had to release a copy to Dick Cheney
20 posted on 07/24/2009 11:17:42 PM PDT by tophat9000 (Obama plans to fix America like he fixed his dog)
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