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Did you know? Obama’s half sister, born in Indonesia, has a Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth
examiner.com ^ | July 27, 2009 | Gregory Dail

Posted on 07/26/2009 11:03:19 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

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To: John Valentine
I would like to damn to Hell for all eternity the SOB that came up with this abominable “Short Form” Birth Certificate BS. It seems to have spread like a bad smell.

It would have taken no more effort to simply scan in the real long form birth certificate. To make it into a digital record that could be spit out on paper upon request. It would have cost no more money

But that is today.

My short form birth certificate is from 1986. Back then it cost a lost more to scan digitize and store a full long form birth certificate.
Storing the short form information was a lot cheaper

Every state is different and it seems Hawaii digitized birth certificates at a time (2001) when scanning the long form would have cost no more

141 posted on 07/27/2009 7:39:40 AM PDT by dennisw (Free Republic is an island in a sea of zombies)
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To: mojitojoe

Lol! That's probably the goofiest photoshopped pic I've ever seen! ROFL!

Meanwhile Barry was born in Kenya, and he is not a "naturalized citizen", unless he proves so. Therefore, he is ineligible for the office of President.

I believe his Grandma Sarah when she said he was born in Kenya.
Besides, his own family can't remember what Hawaiian hospital he was supposed to have been born in and NO ONE from any Hawaiian hospital has ever stepped forward (no Doctor or Nurse or Admin) who remembers him being born there.

Why else has Obama spent hundreds of thousands of dollars keeping his records sealed? Because he wanted to be a politician; he wanted to be President.

He is not eligible to be President. But that's all water under the bridge because now we all look like some kind of conspiracy nuts. But we are not. He is not eligible for President until he PROVES IT by showing his birth certs to neutral reviewers.

Meanwhile, I'm not holding my breath..............I'm just watching Obama's "presidency" disentegrate through his own rookie moves until his chances are completely gone for ANY glimmer of re-election.

142 posted on 07/27/2009 7:40:43 AM PDT by NoRedTape
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To: Berlin_Freeper; LucyT; Polarik; Red Steel; Fred Nerks
Obama’s and Maya's mother, Ann Dunham, was the consummate scam artist.

And I don't call her a scam artist flippantly — she used nearly a dozen aliases that are well-documented, and moved from place to place when she burned through people who got wise to her tricks.

One example of how she manipulated the facts is when she filed for divorce in Hawaii in 1980, having been married circa 1966 in Indonesia. It's INDISPUTABLE that Maya was born in Indonesia — she lived there the majority of her youth. And yet, Ann Dunman makes it appear that Maya was born in America as a full-fledged American. Not so:Soetoro 1980 Divorce Papers - p4 Soetoro 1980 Divorce Papers - p5

Clearly by Indonesian law, Maya was born an Indonesian citizen -- not a dual citizen. NOW, why would Ann Dunham do this?

Ann Dunham had a similar motivation to get her first-born, Obama Jr, listed as an American. I dare say that if you run Ann's name and her various social security numbers through government databases, you'll see many, many years of US Government Welfare support checks being mailed to Hawaii for Obama Jr and Maya, forwarded to Ann's Indonesian address.

143 posted on 07/27/2009 7:48:12 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: mojitojoe; Ann Archy

Barack Obama is less of a person than an image— a brand. People see whatever they want as they do on a Rorschach test. But does anyone really know him?

In fact, he is:

· An empty suit.

· A man with no birth certificate.

· A man who was deserted in childhood by his biological father.

· A man whose birth records, both in the United States and Kenya , are sealed by government order.

· A man whose childhood mentor, Frank Marshall Davis, spied on U.S. military installations in Hawaii for the Soviet Union, edited a communist newspaper, authored pornographic novels, and wrote poetry in praise of Joseph Stalin.

· A man mentored by and still supported by radical Muslims.

· A man who promised transparency in government, but has spent over a million dollars in legal fees hiding information that would determine his eligibility to be President.

· A former drug user.

· A man whose academic records are sealed from kindergarten through law school.

· A man who arrived in New York in June of 1981 without enough money to get a hotel room, but one month later flew to Indonesia and Pakistan .

· Why did he go?

· Who paid his expenses?

· A man who traveled to Pakistan when it was illegal for U.S. citizens to do so. So what country’s passport did he use?

· A man whose Law School Admission Test scores and grades at Columbia University are known to have been mediocre, but was admitted to Harvard Law School through the intervention of a Saudi named Khalid al-Mansour.

· A law review editor who never published an article in any law review.

· A lawyer with no significant accomplishments in the law and no reputation in the legal community.

· A former State and U.S. Senator, who never authored a piece of legislation.

· A disciple of the Marxist Saul Alinsky.

· A product of the Chicago political machine—the most corrupt political organization in America .

· A man who selects Marxists, corrupt politicians, and criminals as his close political associates and personal friends.

· A man whose presidential candidacy was endorsed by the Democratic Socialists of America , the Socialist International, and the Workers International League.

· A man lauded for the literary brilliance of two memoirs, both of which were ghostwritten by others.

· A so-called Christian who says that knowing when life human begins is “above his pay-grade,” but somehow knows that abortion is permissible at any stage.

· A man who thinks “waterboarding” is immoral, but that partial-birth abortion is moral.

· A man who publicly laments slavery in America—which was abolished 150 years ago—but praises Islam, which still practices both slavery and the sexual mutilation of young girls.

· A man who speaks endlessly about helping the less fortunate, but gives almost none of his sizeable income to charity—not even to his half-brother, who is living in squalor in Kenya.

· A man who had the most left-wing voting record in the United State Senate, but was predicted by the press to “govern from the middle.”

· A man who has never created a job, met a payroll, or even operated a lemonade stand, but wants to tell Detroit how to make cars.

· A President who has never before served as an executive in either the private or the public sector.

· A Commander-in-Chief who doesn’t know how to shoot a rifle, throw a hand-grenade, drive a tank, fly a plane, or con a ship.

· A Commander-in-Chief who has publicly divulged some of our nation’s most important intelligence secrets.

· A man who has been put in charge of the largest economic engine that ever existed, but has never invested in the stock market and admits total ignorance of it.

· A President who says that science will guide his administration, but has no education in the sciences.

· A man who is proficient in reading what is written for him on a teleprompter, but jerks and stammers his way through any off-the-cuff speaking.

· A man whose health records are sealed from childhood to the present day.

· A man whose educational records are sealed from childhood through law school.

· A man who spent 20 years in a church whose pastor espouses Marxist Liberation Theology, anti-Americanism, anti-capitalism, and anti-Semitism, but claims he never heard his pastor utter anti-American, and anti-Semitic statements.

· A man who added more to the National Debt in 100 days than all other Presidents did in the past 220 years, yet feels qualified to lecture Americans about “fiscal responsibility”.

· A man who publicly expressed disdain for the U.S. Constitution on a Chicago radio station because it limited the government’s ability to “redistribute wealth.”

· The first American President to bow before a foreign head of state—a Muslim dictator.

· A man who sits and listens submissively while his country is castigated by Daniel Ortega—a Communist thug whose own daughter accused him of raping her.

· A narcissist who gave the Queen of England a present from the United States —an iPod containing recordings of his own speeches.

· A so-called Christian who officially declared “Pride Month” for a lifestyle that the Bible calls an abomination.

· A man who wanted Americans to ignore his Muslim name during his election campaign, yet boasts of his Muslim name when he travels to Muslim countries.

· A man who can name hundreds of America ’s shortcomings, yet none of its great accomplishments.

· A President who claims the moral high ground by closing Gitmo yet supports the transfer of terror suspects to countries where horrific torture is certain.

· A President who scoffed at being called a socialist yet acted to nationalize the auto industry, the banking industry, and the insurance industry . . . and now seeks to nationalize the healthcare industry.

· A President who violates private property rights, the sanctity of contracts, and the rule of law—three essential principles that go back over a thousand years in the Common Law tradition.

· A man who promised 95% of all Americans a tax cut, but is increasing taxes on 100% of the population through inflation—the cruelest tax of all.

· A lawyer who represented ACORN—an organization now indicted in several states for voter fraud—whose stated goal is to get as many people on welfare as possible in order to destroy our financial system.

· A President who cheated GM’s bondholders by giving their property to the UAW in a political payoff.

· An American President who frequently criticizes his own country when speaking in foreign countries, but never praises America’s generosity, goodness or greatness.

· A President whose Secretary of the Treasury cheated on his taxes—as did several other appointees and advisors.

· A President who, despite the current federal debt of 100 trillion dollars, wants to add the greatest debt ever by nationalizing healthcare.

· A President who scoffs at being called a socialist, yet has appointed 28 “Czars” to circumvent constitutional government, including:

· A “Science Czar” who has advocated compulsory abortions for American women and the “surrender of sovereignty” to a “comprehensive Planetary Regime.”

· A self-professed communist as his “Green Jobs Czar”.

· A “Pay Czar” to regulate the pay of corporate executives.

· A President who swore an oath to “preserve, protect and defend the constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic,” yet has nominated a domestic enemy of the Constitution to the Supreme Court.

· A President whose Homeland Security Chief classified pro-lifers, veterans, and supporters of traditional marriage as terrorists.

· A President who stood silent while the Iranian government hacked unarmed protestors to death with axes, because it was an internal matter, but freely offers his opinions about the internal affairs of Israel and Honduras.

· A President who decreed that true acts of terrorism must now be described as “man-made disasters.”

· A President who cracks hurtful jokes about Special Olympians.

· A President who refused to intercept or inspect a North Korean ship virtually certain to be carrying Weapons of Mass Destruction toBurma.

· A President who wants to cancel all missile defenses while rogue nations are developing long-range ballistic missiles.

· An American President who blames the violence in Mexico on America .

· A Commander in Chief who claims to have been unaware that Air Force One was taken on a terrifying, low-level photo-op over Manhattan .

· A President who berates American CEO’s for flying in private planes at private expense on company business, but whose wife spends hundreds of thousands tax payer dollars flying to Paris for a shopping spree.

· A President who promised a transparent administration, but requires all questions be screened before “impromptu” appearances.

· A man who freely admitted that his energy policies are designed to bankrupt the American coal industry.

· A President who has presided over the loss of 14.7 million jobs and whose “energy policy” will cause the loss of another 1 million jobs.

· A President whose “energy policy” will increase the average American’s utility bills by over $2,000 a year in the middle of the Great Recession.

· A man about whom liberal journalist Tom Brokaw said, “There’s a lot about him we don’t know.” . . .just one week before the election.

The vast majority of Americans do not know who he is, but someone surely does. Someone paid for his travel expenses to Pakistan and Indonesia . Someone engineered legal challenges to all of his election opponents for the State Senate and had them disqualified. Someone straightened and leveled his path to the U.S. Senate when a Democrat Judge made public the child custody records of his Republican opponent. When he was a candidate for the U.S. Senate, someone arranged for him to speak at the 2004 Democratic National Convention. Someone saw to it that all of his records were sealed, both at home and abroad. Someone assembled the massive organization for his run for the Presidency. Someone knows all about him.

Who


144 posted on 07/27/2009 7:49:48 AM PDT by sunny48
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To: Berlin_Freeper; LucyT; Polarik; Red Steel; Fred Nerks
Obama’s and Maya's mother, Ann Dunham, was the consummate scam artist.

And I don't call her a scam artist flippantly — she used nearly a dozen aliases that are well-documented, and moved from place to place when she burned through people who got wise to her tricks.

One example of how she manipulated the facts is when she filed for divorce in Hawaii in 1980, having been married circa 1966 in Indonesia. It's INDISPUTABLE that Maya was born in Indonesia — she lived there the majority of her youth. And yet, Ann Dunman makes it appear that Maya was born in America as a full-fledged American. Not so:
Soetoro 1980 Divorce Papers - p4 Soetoro 1980 Divorce Papers - p5

Clearly by Indonesian law, Maya was born an Indonesian citizen -- not a dual citizen. NOW, why would Ann Dunham do this?

Ann Dunham had a similar motivation to get her first-born, Obama Jr, listed as an American. I dare say that if you run Ann's name and her various social security numbers through government databases, you'll see many, many years of US Government Welfare support checks being mailed to Hawaii for Obama Jr and Maya, forwarded to Ann's Indonesian address.

145 posted on 07/27/2009 7:50:12 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2

Can we get a list or a screen shot of those welfare payments?


146 posted on 07/27/2009 7:50:46 AM PDT by surfer
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To: dennisw

Hawaii will provide either one upon request and payment of the fee.

Apparently the abstract birth certificate (it should really be called an Abstract of Live Birth) can be spit out virtually in real time, and I see no reason why with today’s technology the archival scan would take any longer. I agree that at one time, the scan would have required locating the original and manually creating a copy.

Given that, I think that the diital abstract ought to be abolished.


147 posted on 07/27/2009 7:51:15 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: saquin

don’ lose that number....we may need it.


148 posted on 07/27/2009 8:00:28 AM PDT by AdamBomb
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To: mojitojoe

boy, does that pic say a lot.


149 posted on 07/27/2009 8:00:44 AM PDT by AdamBomb
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To: John Valentine

Yes the short form really is an abstract of live birth. A fuzzy picture of the real long form. This has to make phony IDs for illegal aliens a lot easier. All kinds of identity fraud a lot easier. Certain powers that be love it this way


150 posted on 07/27/2009 8:01:07 AM PDT by dennisw (Free Republic is an island in a sea of zombies)
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To: mojitojoe

this is a great compilation! Wow, I’m making a copy of this for personal records.....if you don’t mind.


151 posted on 07/27/2009 8:02:58 AM PDT by AdamBomb
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To: surfer

Can we get a list or a screen shot of those welfare payments?

Yeah, they're in the same place as Obama's passport files, Barry Soetoro's college and tuition assistance records, etc.

But the Welfare checks is the most-logical motivation for Ann Dunham's antics. Fraud and abuse in the Welfare system (AFDC, SSI, etc) was rampant until about 1995.

Just like with other crime -- it's almost always about the money.

152 posted on 07/27/2009 8:08:16 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: mojitojoe

I’m laughing myself silly over this picture. A perfect mockery of Dum Dum’s apparent belief that we are all just gullible peons that can’t differentiate - - - from rain.


153 posted on 07/27/2009 8:13:14 AM PDT by 1951Boomer
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To: John Valentine
Luckily, Hawaii archived the original birth certificates that were later turned into Certifications (digital abstracts) after November 2001.

Those archives of the original birth certificates are used for such things as security clearances, child adoption and to prove blood lineage to the Department of Hawaiian Homeland Lands:
Loaa Ka Aina Hoopulapula - DHHL requires the Certificate, p 3 Request a Long form COLB for DHHL

154 posted on 07/27/2009 8:24:29 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2

Very good research! Ann Dunham was a loosey goosey flower child hippie years before there was such a thing


155 posted on 07/27/2009 8:26:32 AM PDT by dennisw (Free Republic is an island in a sea of zombies)
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To: sunny48
More than likely it is a group with lots of influence, power, money, and strong anti American strongly held beliefs.

... some group of people that desire to be Hitler, Stalin, Mao Sa Tung, Chavez, Castro,Zimbabwe's president Robert Mugabe, etc., ... all rolled into one in power, purpose, scope.

Take your pick <

Trilateral Commission

The New World Order ...Bilderberg’s.

The World Council of Foreign Affairs

The United Nations

The Club of Rome (and its 10 Kingdoms)

The New Age Movements/religions

The Communist Party ,Socialist's, Marxist's ...

All the above
Soros, The Saudi’s,

Obama is simply a front man. Ask Bill and Hillary ... Bill was a front man too. Still is. JMO! JMO!

Thank you for the posting
Amazing how this has happened Anyone who listened to Obama during his campaign was told about all the bad stuff he is doing as well as all the things(lobbyist curtailment) etc., that he promised to do and is not doing ARGH!

156 posted on 07/27/2009 8:29:50 AM PDT by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: dennisw
Those archives of the original birth certificates are used for such things as security clearances, child adoption and to prove blood lineage to the Department of Hawaiian Homeland Lands:

I read the other day that the short form is now OK to prove lineage. Yes the long form used to be what you needed

Proving lineage is a very touchy issue because proven Native Hawaiians get all kinds of preferences and bennies. Same as claiming you are an Indian who belongs to a casino tribe. You will be put through the mill to prove your lineage because they will only share the $$$ with real Indians. No Warren Churchills need apply

Do you have any idea what percent Hawaiian you have to be get on the gravy train?
Years ago I met a blond woman who told me since she was 1/16th Indian she got some benefits in Alaska where she lived

157 posted on 07/27/2009 8:34:05 AM PDT by dennisw (Free Republic is an island in a sea of zombies)
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To: dennisw
Ann Dunham wanted a way to scam more $ from the US government.

If it meant declaring Obama Jr and Maya as US Citizens, and waiving off child support from her husbands -- so be it!

The FIRST document is from the 1964 Obama divorce
The SECOND document is from the 1980 Soetoro divorce

Obama 64 divorce - p 2 Soetoro 1980 Divorce Papers - p1

"Sole custody" -- BOTH DIVORCES (yet she dumped Obama Jr on her parents in Dec 1971)
"For such other and further relief" -- 1964 Obama divorce
"should NOT be required to provide child support for said children" -- 1980 Soetoro divorce (unlikely -- she probably really "double dipping" from the US Welfare system WHILE collecting child support checks from Lolo, mailed from Indonesia) ...

Note that even with the 1964 divorce decree -- Ann notes when and to whom, but not WHERE the Obama Jr is born ... that would come later when she learned how to exploit the Hawaiian birth certificate system.

Remember: the "Certificate of Hawaiian Birth" Program was terminated in 1972 when, among other reasons, the law required the U.S. Social Security Administration to issue Social Security numbers and to obtain more stringent evidence of age and citizenship or alien status and identity.

It's obvious to THIS Freeper: Ann was after the Welfare payments. I wouldn't be surprised if she simultaneously collected checks for BOTH Barack Obama Jr from the first divorce AS WELL AS Barry Soetoro from the second divorce (while using one of her other SSNs).

And Obama Jr took advantage of the loosey goosey Hawaiian birth certificate system, hiding his original birth certificate(s) and other ROOT DOCUMENT(S), to show the world THIS when he was able to run for President, beginning his campaign in 2005:


158 posted on 07/27/2009 9:32:55 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: roving

I’ve tried to find a copy of Maya’s COLB on-line without success. Do you have a link that shows it?


159 posted on 07/27/2009 9:33:48 AM PDT by tyou48
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To: Canedawg

Well first that thing is was in the UK. Second, as far as the conversation I had with the clerk in HDH that I spoke to just a couple of weeks ago, the Office in Honolulu has 3 printers, one in a room where snail Mail forms are processed. One in an area where requests come in from the internet. And the last one at the front counter. They have a total of three, The snail mail room prints the date above Onaka’s signature, the other two print the date to the left of the signature.

Mine, having neem processed through a Snail Mail request has the date above the signature, and VERY interestingly the date is incorrect. It should have been Mar 6 2000. But someone “screwed up” and the date says Mar. 6 2007. They confirmed for me that it should have said 2000. So it is easy enough to “mis-print” a date, and I have proof of that.


160 posted on 07/27/2009 9:37:43 AM PDT by Danae (I AM JIM THOMPSON - Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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