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The Obama Birth Certificate Issue is a Dangerous Distraction for Republicans (so touching)
US News and World Report ^ | 7/27/09 | Peter Roff

Posted on 07/27/2009 2:59:11 PM PDT by pissant

Intensity matters in politics and, at times, is more important than approval.

It may be, and the ratings certainly suggested this was the case, that the television viewing public preferred Jay Leno to David Letterman when choosing which late-night talk show to watch. From a political standpoint, however, it would do a candidate for elective office little good at the polls to announce he was a "Leno person" or to denounce Letterman. Preference in late-night talk show hosts is simply not an issue on which people vote.

On the other hand there are issues which, while they matter little to the vast majority of the electorate, are of great importance to a minority of voters; indeed these issues do a lot to shape the attitudes of these voters and to direct their behavior in the voting booth.

The issue of Barack Obama's citizenship falls into that latter category.

There are those who, despite ample evidence to the contrary, maintain that Obama was born outside the United States. And that, as such, he is not a natural-born citizen of this country and is not eligible to hold the high office he now occupies. These people—whom my bloleague Robert Schlesinger calls "birthers"—despite some fairly convincing details on the other side of the argument, argue that the copy of Obama's birth certificate that has been made available for public examination is either an outright fraud or some kind of forgery.

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I'm just touched, almost to the point of tears, how suddenly the MSM is so concerned about the GOP and its future success.

What a stale joke.

1 posted on 07/27/2009 2:59:11 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant
At least it is a legitimate distraction instead of this Crowley - Gates fiasco mess in MA.

2 posted on 07/27/2009 3:02:12 PM PDT by SouthDixie (We are but angels with one wing, it takes two to fly.)
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To: pissant

I’m just touched, almost to the point of tears, how suddenly the MSM is so concerned about the GOP and its future success.

What a stale joke.


This is just strange to me. This is starting to look more and more like a set up. How does someone spend 1 million to hide their records and not get called on it? Something is very fishy.


3 posted on 07/27/2009 3:03:34 PM PDT by CommieCutter (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/programs/ht/qt/3013_08.html)
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To: pissant

I acquired rights to the domain name “thekenyanimposter.com” today.

I’m going to make a mint when the coverup unravels.


4 posted on 07/27/2009 3:04:57 PM PDT by y6162 (uish..)
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To: y6162

Nice. Good move.


5 posted on 07/27/2009 3:06:20 PM PDT by CommieCutter (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/programs/ht/qt/3013_08.html)
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To: pissant

Peter, Republicans aren’t behind this. Americans are.


6 posted on 07/27/2009 3:06:20 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: pissant

"Does anyone else think it's getting hot in here?"

7 posted on 07/27/2009 3:06:50 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (CITIZENS OF LIBERTY! RISE UP AND DEFEAT THE EVIL BEAST, OBAMUNISM!)
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To: pissant

Oh come now. Surely you don’t think the MSM concern for GOP success is disingenuous.


8 posted on 07/27/2009 3:08:10 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: pissant

US News and World Report - other than reading that before my last tooth pull, is circulation over 5,000?


9 posted on 07/27/2009 3:09:20 PM PDT by wac3rd (80 Carter/Obama 08)
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To: pissant
There are those who, despite ample evidence to the contrary, maintain that Obama was born outside the United States.

All we want is for Obama to release his original birth certificate now under seal by the government of Hawaii. Obama could end of all this speculation immediately.

10 posted on 07/27/2009 3:10:13 PM PDT by kabar
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To: OB1kNOb
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.


11 posted on 07/27/2009 3:10:31 PM PDT by shineon
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To: pissant
Something must have escaped their clutches, some interesting piece of evidence. The Obamazoids have suddenly switched from disdain and refraining from discussing the issue to an all out assault on ‘birthers’. It seems they are trying to inoculate the sheeple against whatever they think is coming.
12 posted on 07/27/2009 3:12:01 PM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: pissant

I haven’t seen ANY reliable ‘evidence to the contrary’ yet


13 posted on 07/27/2009 3:12:49 PM PDT by SF_Redux
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To: pissant

Same argument over and over. Waste of time, we need to move on, not important, distraction, etc etc.

It woiuld take Obama a minute to provide his BC but he hires lawyers and send news media flacks to write crap like this.

So why the buzz now? It may have to do with the judge in CA who was in the Marines. The Dems do not want to read the Obama DeathCare bill or provide the BC but they sure as hell want us to pay taxes.


14 posted on 07/27/2009 3:13:00 PM PDT by Frantzie (Obama DeathCare - Sending Seniors to the Death Camps. Obama = Racist Dope)
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To: pissant

This brought a tear to my eye, as well. The extremely left-wing US News and World Report, who never fails to push a left-wing agenda, cares about Republicans.

Ha! Ha! Ha!


15 posted on 07/27/2009 3:14:57 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: pissant
What could happen to them? Could they become the minority in the House? Could they become the minority in the Senate?
Could they have to work with a belligerent Democratic president?

Wow!!! They had better be careful.

16 posted on 07/27/2009 3:15:32 PM PDT by Know et al (Everything I know I read in the newspaper and that's the reason for my ignorance: Will Rogers)
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To: pissant

I am so glad that US News and World Report is telling the Republicans to not look in the “briar patch.”

I thought the MSM was against us but now they want to be our friends. Maybe Obama truly is getting everyone in on the “hope and change.” How touching!


17 posted on 07/27/2009 3:15:38 PM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: pissant

Interesting. I don’t care about republicans. I care about the Constitution of the United States of America.


18 posted on 07/27/2009 3:17:41 PM PDT by chris37
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To: wac3rd

5,000?
^^^^^^^^

Sitting here laughing! How many dentists are there in the U.S?


19 posted on 07/27/2009 3:17:57 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: pissant

You said — I’m just touched, almost to the point of tears, how suddenly the MSM is so concerned about the GOP and its future success.

No, that’s only “posturing” and presenting the public with a viewpoint that is getting repeated over and over again. That’s not concern with the GOP and conservatives... that’s “posturing” and “innoculation”.

I can see that this is a “campaign” by the leftists and liberals. Just think about all the stuff that the general public is reading about in regards to these news reports from the mainline media. We get a lot of news from other sources and so we can keep up on the details and the ins and outs of what is going on and the significance of it.

But, just pay attention to the “message” that is being put out by the MSM, because that’s the “message” that is being absorbed. You’re not absorbing it and I’m not absorbing it, but there a vast audience out there that is absorbing it. And that’s the intention.

That’s why this increase in articles from the MSM..., it’s an “innoculation campaign”...


20 posted on 07/27/2009 3:18:38 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: pissant
"despite ample evidence to the contrary,"

Which would be... what exactly?

21 posted on 07/27/2009 3:19:02 PM PDT by Mr. K (THIS ADMINISTRATION IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT!!!!!)
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To: Star Traveler

Good, they are assuring that the entire world knows about the issue. Finally.


22 posted on 07/27/2009 3:19:46 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

The only “ample evidence” that exists is a doctored and phony document that was printed on a laser printer with font type “Arial” in 2008.


23 posted on 07/27/2009 3:19:56 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Stop meddling in the affairs of countries and individuals Obama!)
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To: truthandlife


The White House 'dialogue' site has to be scrubbed regularly because of long form birth certificate eligibility posts.

Rush Limbaugh joked several times on his radio show on 6/10/09: "What do God and Obama have in commen? (Answer) Neither have birth certificates."

Even the liberal LA Times on June 30, 2009 in an article dripping with contempt--conceded that the thing Obama's people posted online was "technically... not a birth certificate".

A bill in the US congress with 10 backers currently -- calls for future presidential candidates to be required to show a birth certificate.

The library of congress has recently started including the Obama File in its historic collections of Internet materials related to the Presidential Transition during a Time of Crises. The Obama File holds that Obama's birth certificate as presented online is bogus.

Now this story is starting to change. Some liberals in an open acknowledgement of Obama's problems are starting to call for a change in the constitution.Liberal defenders of Obama in full retreat on Birth CertificateNow The LA Times Wants To Amend the Constitution Rather Than Have Obama Show His Birth Certificate. (Translation: Yeah he’s not a Natural Born Citizen — As the Constitution Requires.)
24 posted on 07/27/2009 3:20:59 PM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: Frantzie

It may have to do with the judge in CA who was in the Marines.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Yep! I would look under that rock. Hiding there is Judge Carter the Marine who served in Vietnam.

I pray for his health and safety every day. Somehow I suspect that if anything happens to Judge Carter the Marine ( such as with the gay choir director or passport operative) the U.S. Marine Corp will be **pissed**! ( And, I would hope that would be the case!)


25 posted on 07/27/2009 3:21:37 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: pissant
........the media picked the GOP candidate, they didn't get to pick the VP. (the attacks continue)

........the media picked Obama and went along gleefully with the choice of Biden.

they know best, you can tell because their so solid economically..*chortle*

26 posted on 07/27/2009 3:22:43 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Frantzie

Don’t forget, Obama paid a million dollars of his own campaign money to cover it up.


27 posted on 07/27/2009 3:23:16 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Stop meddling in the affairs of countries and individuals Obama!)
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To: pissant

Must be getting real close for them to have this article printed. Messing in their pants close...you’d better be scared. You’d better grasp for those straws. There’s a jail cell just waiting for all you who’ve committed fraud and violated the tenets of your oath to protect the Constitution.


28 posted on 07/27/2009 3:23:50 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: SouthDixie
Roff is also the former Political Director of GOPAC, the political committee once headed by House Speaker Newt Gingrich. In that venue, Mr. Roff was a frequent commentator on politics and culture for MSNBC and the Fox News Channel."

So, he is part of the reason the GOP is in such a mess! Obama could put this to bed in one afternoon!

29 posted on 07/27/2009 3:23:55 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: pissant

It’s a strategy of marginalization which is being used on conservatives, unfortunately...


30 posted on 07/27/2009 3:24:00 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Doogle
........the media picked Obama and went along gleefully with the choice of Biden.

When Obama picked Biden, the media portrayed Biden as some tough guy.  Tougher than Rumsfeld and nicer than Cheney.

31 posted on 07/27/2009 3:25:25 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Stop meddling in the affairs of countries and individuals Obama!)
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To: kcvl

It appears Roff’s lips (like so many others in the GOP) are permanently attached to Obama’s backside.


32 posted on 07/27/2009 3:27:34 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Stop meddling in the affairs of countries and individuals Obama!)
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To: Star Traveler

They are trying. Started last week. It is in response to Rush three things. Rush, Lou, and Orly finally getting a partial victory in court.

They had to do this. Now the genie is out of the bottle and it won’t go back in. Obama will have to cough up his real BC.


33 posted on 07/27/2009 3:27:43 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant
There are those who, despite ample evidence to the contrary, maintain that Obama was born outside the United States.

I don't maintain that he was born outside the United States. I don't maintain anything other than that 0bama has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees to defend against something that could be resolved for less than $50 by simply producing the original or a certified copy of his long form birth certificate.

The Constitution sets two requirements for POTUS: Must be a natural borm citizen and at least 35 years of age. I can't imagine that anyone would spend the kind of money that 0bama has spent to fight this out unless he does not meet one of those qualifications.

34 posted on 07/27/2009 3:28:17 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: pissant

The author presents not a shred of fact or logic to connect the birther issue to his premise that it will harm Republicans at the polls.

What swing voter cares about this issue either way?
What lazy non-voter is motivated to get out and vote based on this issue?

This issue will have zero impact on election day 2010, regardless of what comes of the issue.

Now, whether it is a matter of taking the Constitution seriously, that is not partisan politics ... or is it?


35 posted on 07/27/2009 3:29:50 PM PDT by spintreebob
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To: kabar
All we want is for Obama to release his original birth certificate now under seal by the government of Hawaii. Obama could end of all this speculation immediately.

It really is just that simple.

This is not a Republican issue. This is an American issue. A Constitution issue. It is an issue of truth.

But then I guess it is a Republican issue because truth, the Constitution and America are things Democrats trample and disrespect.

36 posted on 07/27/2009 3:30:28 PM PDT by A message (3 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days until Jim Thompson is President)
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To: pissant

37 posted on 07/27/2009 3:30:34 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: pissant

If this is such a non-issue, why the flood of articles on it?


38 posted on 07/27/2009 3:31:24 PM PDT by manic4organic (We Are S0 Screwed)
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To: manic4organic

Because they are in a state of panic.


39 posted on 07/27/2009 3:33:11 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

LOL. So what are they going to say when and if Orly Taitz gets a subpoena for the Long Form?

Oops? perhaps?

The issue is about a forgery... Thats the point they are missing. There is no other reason on earth why Obama would conceal the long form. Its because the two don’t match.


40 posted on 07/27/2009 3:34:29 PM PDT by Danae (I AM JIM THOMPSON - Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: pissant
If I were Obama and if I had a legitimate birth certificate, I would keep it under wraps too and bring it out at the right time with such venom that it would make the republicans look even worse than the idiots they have been for some time. Perhaps he's not that clever but then again ..... (it's not as if the republicans are that bright)!

One thing is for certain, the right answer at the wrong time is the wrong answer. Timing is everything on this one.

41 posted on 07/27/2009 3:35:36 PM PDT by pt17
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And that’s why the left is demanding Lou Dobbs stop mentioning the missing birth certificate.

Because it’s hurting republicans.

of course it is.

not


42 posted on 07/27/2009 3:36:03 PM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: pissant

Oh I did not know the vast majority of Americans do not care if the President is a citizen. They are getting nervous. About this.


43 posted on 07/27/2009 3:36:28 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: pissant

It is response to the Major Cook thing you can be sure. They need to pull out all the stops to ensure more service men don’t do wht Major Cook did


44 posted on 07/27/2009 3:37:07 PM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: pt17

Republicans have next to nothing to do with the issue


45 posted on 07/27/2009 3:37:26 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: kabar

Ample evidence...A fake colb and a newspaper ad???


46 posted on 07/27/2009 3:37:49 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: pissant

Nope, that’s just ‘progressive’ code for “we gonna put you in Gulags, Stalags and whatever other prisons we have left when we empty them out from all of the unjustly convicted minorities......”


47 posted on 07/27/2009 3:38:23 PM PDT by Gaffer
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Well..., as always, “time will tell”...

The other part of that phrase is that I’m afraid that “time” just keeps on ticking by. I mean, I knew pretty much all the basic facts before the election. Sure there has been a number of additional details and filling in, here and there, and another case or two or three, and a different name here, another lawyer there — but this is the same place as it was before the election.

What was it before the election? Well, “birth certificate” and “qualifications”. What is it now... well... birth certificate and qualifications. What has changed? Just a bunch of details about “birth certificate” and “qualifications”. LOL... and that does seem funny to me...

So, the one thing that I keep urging people to do is get their own state legislature to pass a law that requires a candidate to produce a birth certificate or else he cannot be on the ballot.

In doing that particular thing — that’s one thing that I know that “time” won’t pass by. On all this other stuff... it just seems that it keeps on going and going and going — but that’s all that happens... the “going part”... :-)

The “law” would be the thing that *works*....

And for *that* we should have massive organizational campaigns, right here on Free Republic to get that going in the various states. But, I have hardly ever heard *one word* about that kind of a campaign with FReepers, practically nothing at all, except me posting about it... :-)

And to me that means that the legislators in the various states are *not hearing* about this kind of solution in their state at all. They’re not hearing about it, because when something like this kind of a campaign is going on, FReepers *do hear about it*... and in this one, we hear “nothing”...


48 posted on 07/27/2009 3:39:27 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: truthandlife

Remember when the helped us get the “perfect” candidate. Johm McCain. They are so good to us.


49 posted on 07/27/2009 3:39:53 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: Frantzie

So why the buzz now? It may have to do with the judge in CA who was in the Marines. The Dems do not want to read the Obama DeathCare bill or provide the BC but they sure as hell want us to pay taxes.


The Judge CANNOT and SHOULD not use his Marine experience to color his judgement in any way. Sotomayor was just pillored for doing the same thing. To assume that because the Judge was a Marine he will (or should) side against the President is liberal thinking.


50 posted on 07/27/2009 3:40:05 PM PDT by shivashambho
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