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Obama’s Science Czar Said a Born Baby ‘Will Ultimately Develop Into a Human Being’
Cybercast News Service ^ | July 28, 2009 | Terence P. Jeffrey

Posted on 07/29/2009 5:34:12 AM PDT by WhiteCastle

President Obama’s top science adviser said in a book he co-authored in 1973 that a newborn child “will ultimately develop into a human being” if he or she is properly fed and socialized.

“The fetus, given the opportunity to develop properly before birth, and given the essential early socializing experiences and sufficient nourishing food during the crucial early years after birth, will ultimately develop into a human being,” John P. Holdren, director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, wrote in “Human Ecology: Problems and Solutions.”

Holdren co-authored the book with Stanford professors Paul R. Ehrlich and Anne H. Ehrlich. The book was published by W.H. Freeman and Company.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: abortion; czar54; ehrich; embryo; holdren; johnholdren; onechildpolicy; paulehrlich; populationbomb; populationcontrol; prolife; scienceczar; unborn; zpg
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1 posted on 07/29/2009 5:34:13 AM PDT by WhiteCastle
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To: WhiteCastle

I can think of one obvious counter example.


2 posted on 07/29/2009 5:35:32 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (AGWT is very robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it at the 100% confidence level.)
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To: WhiteCastle
"Obama’s Science Czar Said a Born Baby ‘Will Ultimately Develop Into a Human Being’"

Whoo-boy! You gotta get up pretty early in the morning to put anything past the Obama Admin.

3 posted on 07/29/2009 5:35:56 AM PDT by avacado
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To: WhiteCastle

Glad he cleared that up. I had my doubts. (sarc)


4 posted on 07/29/2009 5:36:06 AM PDT by duckman (Jesus I trust in You. Mary take over)
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To: WhiteCastle

What do the ones who are not “properly socialized” turn into?


5 posted on 07/29/2009 5:38:00 AM PDT by G Larry ( Obamacare=Dying in Line!)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

You beat me to it.


6 posted on 07/29/2009 5:38:25 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: WhiteCastle

The quantity and quality of intelligence that comes from this Administration is truly mind boggling - worse than I thought.


7 posted on 07/29/2009 5:39:27 AM PDT by cblue55
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To: WhiteCastle

Folks, this guy is setting the foundation for legalized infanticide.


8 posted on 07/29/2009 5:39:38 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: WhiteCastle

This is just plain creepy.


9 posted on 07/29/2009 5:39:49 AM PDT by RexBeach
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To: G Larry
What do the ones who are not “properly socialized” turn into?

Democrats.

10 posted on 07/29/2009 5:40:02 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: G Larry

“What do the ones who are not “properly socialized” turn into?”

Libtards maybe?


11 posted on 07/29/2009 5:40:09 AM PDT by duckman (Jesus I trust in You. Mary take over)
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To: WhiteCastle

Leftists see people as things. The man can look at a 6 month old and say it isn’t human. That’s simply deranged. The part about “and given the essential early socializing experiences “ is quite telling. If they are raised the way he thinks is right, they are humans. If he doesn’t like their mindset, they are not. What a twisted bastard.


12 posted on 07/29/2009 5:43:39 AM PDT by allmost
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To: pnh102

I thought the same thing!


13 posted on 07/29/2009 5:45:15 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: WhiteCastle
"a newborn child “will ultimately develop into a human being” if he or she is properly fed and socialized. "

And if the baby ISNT properly fed or "socialized", it goes up to be something entirely different...



14 posted on 07/29/2009 5:47:39 AM PDT by GregoTX (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: allmost; duckman
If they are raised the way he thinks is right, they are humans. If he doesn’t like their mindset, they are not.

Seriously, the left is looking for a reason, an excuse to do what they historically always do - exterminate their ideological opponents.
This is but another angle. If you don't have the leftist (ie, Satanic in origin, worldly) worldview, you're not even to be considered human and can be disposed of as convenient.

15 posted on 07/29/2009 5:48:11 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Me too! :)


16 posted on 07/29/2009 5:48:45 AM PDT by cvq3842 (Countless thousands of our ancestors died to give us the freedoms we have today. Stay involved!)
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To: WhiteCastle
Think about it before you say this is stating the obvious... This is NOT!

What the effect of this is: The baby before it is born and some time after is not human. It apparently takes some time before the "thing" develops into one.

Don't allow this type of foolish talk. It opens the door to legitimize abortion and presumably infanticide. Just sick.

17 posted on 07/29/2009 5:50:04 AM PDT by Damifino (The true measure of a man is found in what he would do if he knew no one would ever find out.)
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To: allmost

I’m told my grandfather, upon seeing me as a newborn remarked: “My God, that kid looks almost human.”


18 posted on 07/29/2009 5:50:13 AM PDT by shove_it (and have a nice day)
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To: avacado

A special zoo should collect and display the freaks from Barry’s administration.


19 posted on 07/29/2009 5:50:44 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: WhiteCastle

Wow. The genius and intelligence the oozes forth from this administration to enlighten those of us that dwell amongst the “unwashed masses” is truly amazing. We should be thankful.....\s


20 posted on 07/29/2009 5:51:10 AM PDT by lgjhn23
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To: WhiteCastle

I don’t suppose he details his definition of what constitutes “proper socialization”, hmm?

Wasn’t there a period of time, not so long ago, where skin color made some people less human than others? What is the difference between this and some arbitrary definition of “proper socialization” to determine one’s humanity?

Wow. Just, wow.


21 posted on 07/29/2009 5:51:34 AM PDT by Zeddicus
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To: G Larry
What do the ones who are not “properly socialized” turn into?

Democratic presidents' science advisers, based on available evidence.

22 posted on 07/29/2009 5:51:36 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (AGWT is very robust with respect to data. All observations confirm it at the 100% confidence level.)
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To: G Larry

Politicians and criminals, but I repeat myself.


23 posted on 07/29/2009 5:54:04 AM PDT by WV Mountain Mama (Lord Stanley, Lord Stanley bring me the brandy!)
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To: HIDEK6
Folks, this guy is setting the foundation for legalized infanticide.

Something 0bama wholeheartedly supports, based on his votes as an Illinois state senator.

24 posted on 07/29/2009 5:54:25 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: WhiteCastle
a newborn child “will ultimately develop into a human being

It's too bad that Holdren started out as a human and turned into a monster.

25 posted on 07/29/2009 5:56:01 AM PDT by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: HIDEK6

If I’m not mistaken, he has advocated teh right to infanticide up to the age of two. I guess the post womb/delivery phase fetus has developed into a living being by their 11th trimester of liflike qualities.


26 posted on 07/29/2009 5:56:24 AM PDT by Billg64 (It is my belief that this is our last opportunity to peacefully protect our republic.)
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To: WhiteCastle

Menegele.

What next, will Bambi appoint an ‘Adequate socialization Czar’?


27 posted on 07/29/2009 5:59:42 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: Billg64

Ok where is Captain Obvious? ..........how stupid.


28 posted on 07/29/2009 6:00:01 AM PDT by Cheryllynn
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To: agere_contra

Oops, ‘Mengele’


29 posted on 07/29/2009 6:00:05 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: WhiteCastle
These folks make Neanderthals seem clever, warm and charming.
30 posted on 07/29/2009 6:00:16 AM PDT by J40000
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To: WhiteCastle

And where does this go? Conservatives are not human. Yes, that would be the “logical leap” these heirs of Lysenko would take.


31 posted on 07/29/2009 6:01:03 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (From this point forward the Democratic Party will be referred to as the Communist Party)
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To: WhiteCastle
Holdren co-authored the book with Stanford professors Paul R. Ehrlich

Ehrlich, the most fatuously wrong scientist of all time? The man who predicted the world-wide famines that killed 90% of us in the 70's, but which so few of us can remember?

32 posted on 07/29/2009 6:01:48 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: Fred Hayek
Conservatives are not human.

They've tried numerous angles to try to further this very theory.

They want us DEAD, folks. Make sure you understand that.

33 posted on 07/29/2009 6:03:19 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: G Larry

“What do the ones who are not “properly socialized” turn into?”

I’m guessing Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals, and other undesirables.


34 posted on 07/29/2009 6:05:25 AM PDT by Hugin (Sarah Palin: accept no substitutes!)
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To: WhiteCastle
Just to be clear: babies are fully human from the moment of conception Holdren you murderous piece of cr*p.

Don't give us this mealy-mouthed Molochspeak.

35 posted on 07/29/2009 6:05:33 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: Damifino
Don't allow this type of foolish talk. It opens the door to legitimize abortion and presumably infanticide. Just sick.

Opens the door to EXTERMINATIONS

36 posted on 07/29/2009 6:07:16 AM PDT by GreyMountainReagan
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To: J40000

...and they make Nazi Germany seem almost compassionate.


37 posted on 07/29/2009 6:07:59 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: WhiteCastle

Did this apply to his kids? Just wondering.


38 posted on 07/29/2009 6:08:46 AM PDT by Texas resident ( Boys and Girls, it's us against them.)
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To: WhiteCastle

Well this guy still hasn’t


39 posted on 07/29/2009 6:09:21 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: G Larry

Liberals


40 posted on 07/29/2009 6:10:24 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Hugin
John P. Holdren, director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, wrote in “Human Ecology: Problems and Final? Solutions.”

There fixed it. I can't believe they used the word "Solutions" in the title.

41 posted on 07/29/2009 6:11:33 AM PDT by GreyMountainReagan
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To: MrB

MrB. You, sir, get it, as in understand liberalism.

I would add, enslaved or dead.

One or the other or both but NOT free AND alive.


42 posted on 07/29/2009 6:15:53 AM PDT by GreyMountainReagan
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To: GreyMountainReagan

There is nothing that makes a leftist more infuriated than someone living outside of their control.

Just as a parallel, let’s look at the options that Islam offers the world:

1) Be one of us
2) Be our slave
3) Die

Familiar?


43 posted on 07/29/2009 6:18:54 AM PDT by MrB (Go Galt now, save Bowman for later)
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To: WhiteCastle

Hmmmm, I’m still waiting for the safer bullets that was suggested years ago by another Dem wonder.


44 posted on 07/29/2009 6:19:06 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (TR started the Bull Moose Party, maybe Palin can start the Moose Cow Party?)
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To: G Larry
"What do the ones who are not “properly socialized” turn into?"

Liberals.

45 posted on 07/29/2009 6:23:25 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: WhiteCastle

“Obama’s Science Czar Said a Born Baby ‘Will Ultimately Develop Into a Human Being’ “

So, this reasoning will allow Obama and his minions to continue to murder newborns if they’re “accidentally” born during a botched abortion. Good thinking . . . Can you imagine: Will Ultimately Develop Into a Human Being!”

Then what the hell is it before this so-called development? What are we . . . Nazis?


46 posted on 07/29/2009 6:28:31 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: All
“The fetus, given the opportunity to develop properly before birth, and given the essential early socializing experiences and sufficient nourishing food during the crucial early years after birth, will ultimately develop into a human being,”

John P. Holdren, director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy

This guy likes where this is going.
47 posted on 07/29/2009 6:28:37 AM PDT by j_k_l
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To: WhiteCastle

Combine with Obama’s freakish Euthanistic Ezekiel Emanuel, and you have an administration with truly frightening “values.”


48 posted on 07/29/2009 6:35:58 AM PDT by cookcounty
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To: G Larry
Q: What do the ones who are not “properly socialized” turn into?

A: RWEs*

 

 

 

 

 

 

*For those with short memories, "right wing extremists"

49 posted on 07/29/2009 6:48:11 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: WhiteCastle

Michael Crichton wrote about this same idea in his novel “A Case of Need” (under the pseudonym Jeffrey Hudson) back in the late 60’s. At that time, it was known as the “DNA Template Theory.”


50 posted on 07/29/2009 6:56:00 AM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Abraham Lincoln would have let Berkeley leave the Union without a fight)
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