Posted on 07/29/2009 11:39:26 AM PDT by mnehring
WASHINGTON -- The University of Chicago released a statement Thursday saying Sen. Barack Obama "served as a professor" in the law school -- but that is a title Obama, who taught courses there part-time, never held, a spokesman for the school confirmed on Friday.
"He did not hold the title of professor of law," said Marsha Ferziger Nagorsky, an assistant dean for communications and lecturer in law at the school.
The U. of C. statement was posted on the school's Web site two days after the Clinton campaign issued a memo headlined: "Just Embellished Words: Senator Obama's Record of Exaggerations & Misstatements."
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Where exactly does it say that? I don't see anywhere a opinion based statement about "importance". The statement had two distinct points, 1. He was not hired based on part of an academic search process. 2. Said hiring did not have any scholarly research obligation. Everything else you are adding your own opinion as to the reasoning why.
But you undermine your case when you compare him to the sessional(sic) lecturers employed to teach undergrads at slave wages.
Which pretty much proves my point in all of my responses to you. None of the items here I said. You continue to frame your argument in the second person, yet only include your first person assumptions of the matter.
You seem to have a vested interest in continuing to push your misstatements and ignore or try to reason away the direct statements of the school instead of taking them at face values? What would your motivational desires be? (..and don't say the truth as you've already shown you are willing to make up what others have said in this situation.)
I’m the one who used the “glorified T.A.” phrase. What I meant was simply that he wasn’t much above the level of a T.A. I don’t think that’s a wantonly careless use of language. Give me any speech of Obama’s, and I can point out far less precise use of language than that.
Thanks for the list...great visual help.
That's what I believe. And I don't give a rat's ass what people say about me for it. There are lots of so-called conspiracy theories that were found to be actual truth. It took a few decades, but the communist/subversives/one-worlders finally got their man in place. Now it's up to us.
You don’t need to posit a conspiracy to think that the U.C. might want to make Obama look good, or to make him appear to have had more of a prominent role than he did. With Obama, it’s done all the time - his most ordinary speeches and actions - e.g., swatting a fly - are given absurdly grandiose significance.
I’ll bet he cashed his checks... there should be a record of his being paid
Sure, UC says he was offered tenure track, but that is something easy to say retrospectively. If he was offered, it was likely with a proviso of ...and, uh, Barack, we do expect some academic writing from you. Which he knew he couldn't do. So a claim of an offer is devoid of any meaning whatsoever.
And Lecturer is, anyway you look at it, a far from lofty position in any academic setting.
This is really not significant — more semantics than anything else. The term “professor” is in widespread usage to mean anyone who is teaching a course at a post-secondary institution. Students routinely address and refer to people whose official titles are “Lecturer” or “Instructor”, as “professor”. The popular website RateMyProfessor.com is understood by everyone to cover all people who teach college courses, regardless of their formal titles. This informal usage is so pervasive that the University of Chicago even used it in this written press release.
It wasn’t on a resume, just some campaign literature. A formal resume should carry formal titles of all paid positions held, and his formal title for this position was presumably “Lecturer” or some other term not containing the word “professor”. If he’d put on an actual resume that he was a “Professor” at the law school, I’d have a big problem with that, but for campaign materials there’s nothing wrong with use terms as they are normally used in informal speech and writing.
Lecturer is a high rank in British schools. That’s the point—terms alone mean little. They have to be interpreted in the context of the type of school employing them.
I taught P.E. (1968 NY country day school) $150/week, was I a professor? I taught remedial math (1974 NY community college) for $5.25/hour, was I a professor? Please let me know cause my resume’ is in serious need of an update.
What is the purpose of a formal resume?
Look, you are the one who was making assumptions when you said “translated, this means.”
You felt free to give the “real meaning” of the technical language used by the U of C spokesman. I gave you a different “translation.” Rather than take issue with the content of my translation, you fault me for translating, when you were the one who arrogated to yourself the authority to “translate.”
And sessional is a proper, technical term for someone hired session by session (semester by semester). So stop the pedantic “sic” business.
Yes. You were a professor. Look it up in the dictionary.
It’s a good thing B0 is not a Republican! Can you imagine all the vitriol, shouting, calling for impeachment, hearings, special prosecutors and comprehensive journalistic investigation?
Right - but why do I need to see Obama’s Harvard Record? The man was president of the law review and he graduated magna cum laude - what good would his record there?
Law review articles and scholarly articles are not his to release, but can be found at a law library. Client practice list would require consent from the clients. Aren’t the Illinois State Records also maintained by the State of Illinois?
Just playing devils advocate - I also haven’t seen the full release of his SAT test - but then why would i care?
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