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Obama's to Blame for the Birther Movement
Fox ^ | 7/29/09 | Tommy De Seno

Posted on 07/29/2009 2:54:54 PM PDT by pissant

Trust but verify.

-- Ronald Reagan

It's good practice to take a person at his word until someone shows you proof he is lying.

Barack Obama says he was born in Hawaii, and since no one has shown any proof he was born in Kenya or elsewhere, it's OK to conclude he was born in Hawaii.

Sure his grammar school records show that he was enrolled as an Indonesian Muslim, but some people will say anything to get their kid in the right school. It doesn't really answer the question.

It's OK though for others not to use my deferential standard and continue to question whether Obama was born in Hawaii. We aren't talking about a 12-year-old qualifying to play Little League here. There is a Constitutional mandate that the President be a natural-born citizen, and if Obama is not one, he certainly will have committed the biggest fraud since the White Sox threw the World Series.

The reason why people still question Obama's citizen status is one-fold: "President Transparency" has refused to release any original documents on the matter. He can end the controversy in a day by releasing original documents, but for some inexplicable reason he refuses, and his love-struck media never asks him why he won't. The media instead spends hell-bent hours on making the Birther movement look like fringy, conspiracy-hungry kooks.

You have to admit though, even if you are a devout Obama-bot, Obama's refusal to release any original documents makes for a newsworthy story by itself.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
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To: penelopesire

I scrolled past all the à crap and found that the incomplete sentence completed just fine, as did the rest of the article.

The à crap seems to have inserted itself mid-sentence. Nothing sinister happening here, I don’t think (I hope?)


41 posted on 07/29/2009 3:19:57 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: Caipirabob

I think this is more the job for the CIA and FBI.


42 posted on 07/29/2009 3:20:30 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Trust but verify......can only be used if there is some credibility in the person to start with.....Zero has none. He should have to document everything about himself since he said he would usher in a presidency with transparency! What a liar!


43 posted on 07/29/2009 3:21:00 PM PDT by savagesusie
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To: DonaldC

Where were you during the 08 campaign? The BC issue was all over Free Republic. The MSM snuffed it while they stuck their collectivist heads up bambi’s arse.


44 posted on 07/29/2009 3:21:31 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (Squash the fascist insect that preys upon the lives of the people -- FUBO!)
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To: pissant

No, I just went to the link, and I get the same thing. Looks like Fox has been hacked.


45 posted on 07/29/2009 3:21:57 PM PDT by webschooner (“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.” Mahatma Gandh)
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To: pissant

Well De Seno is blogger not a Fox staffer (afaik) but it is, nevertheless, nice to see Fox posting an honest Birther article. The truth about Obama’s refusal to release his records is slowly but surely oozing out into the mainstream.


46 posted on 07/29/2009 3:27:09 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: pissant

Friend of mine emailed Mark Silva from the Loser Times saying he wanted to make a donation to Obama’s birth hospital in the name of the Doctor that delivered him. Asked Silva if he could point him in the right direction.

Silva’s Response: “The end of a pier.”

What a fine journalistic pile of dogflop this man is.


47 posted on 07/29/2009 3:31:02 PM PDT by NoobRep
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To: pissant

I get the same thing . From the school records section on .


48 posted on 07/29/2009 3:32:05 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: pissant

Man, I am loving this. Obama is bound to be having some sleepless nights.

Sometime soon, the dam is going to start leaking, and once the first few facts start coming out, it’s going to crumble completely.

I am curious, though. In the UCMJ there are very specific penalties for swearing to a statement, signing a paper that is known to be false.

What would be the penalty for this? If it is true that he is indeed foreign born, not a natural born citizen of the United States, he at the very least has committed perjury by taking the oath of office because he knew from the onset that he was not qualified.

I would LOVE to see him prosecuted and sent to prison for many years.


49 posted on 07/29/2009 3:57:47 PM PDT by Ronin (It will be helpful if Geithner can show us some arithmetic.)
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To: Stand Watch Listen; pissant; real_patriotic_american; potlatch; devolve; Fred Nerks; Polarik; ...

50 posted on 07/29/2009 3:59:39 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: ncfool
But then we would know that he was a muslim or Frank Marshall was his Dad.

Actually, if Marshall was his dad it would clear up his citizenship question as Marshall was a U.S. citizen. Bambi's problem is that his dad probably was a British subject and his mom being too young to transfer her citizenship makes his "Natural Born" citizenship the core of his and our problem.

51 posted on 07/29/2009 4:01:38 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: NMEwithin
The pundits on “Hardball” right now have just concluded that the “birther” issue is about race...nothing more. (BARF)

That's total B.S. I'd rather see Condi, Sowell, Keyes, Thomas..... heck, even the former democrat congressman from Tennessee is more qualified. Anyone but obama. The man has no traceable past. We don't know who he really is. And that's troubling.

52 posted on 07/29/2009 4:07:25 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: pissant
There's a whole list of people and institutions to blame for the Birther controversy.

1. Barack Obama for doing this and not providing his birth certificate.
2. The Democrat Party for not vetting Obama even before he announced his candidacy.
3. The Secretary of State of Illinois for not demanding confirmation.
4. The Congress for not demanding the evidence. They demanded and got the evidence from McCain, evaluated it and made a decision. Why didn't the Democrat-controlled US House and US Senate do their duty, as they did with McCain?
5. The MSM for not vetting Obama, for becoming a propaganda organ for Obama, for personally attacking anyone and everyone, who brought this and any other issue up.
6. John McCain for not doing his duty to his country and demanding Obama's birth issue be cleared up at the same time his was.

Epic Fail for all Beltway and Government institutions. No surprise there.

53 posted on 07/29/2009 4:07:43 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Are they insane, stupid or just evil?)
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To: Don Corleone
Anchor babies who are born in the US are considered full US citizens.

I don't think the mother being too young is an issue, nor is the father being British.

Not covering for Zero because I think he's covering all this up for a reason, but if he's born here that part is not an issue.

54 posted on 07/29/2009 4:08:38 PM PDT by what's up
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To: DonaldC

“It should have been a possible show stopper to obama getting the white house.”

Exactly, where was Lou Dobbs etc then. Everyone kept telling us to move on and attack on the issues. It’s not the fact that he hasnt released a copy of the birth certificate that’s troubling, but the lengths he has gone to, to keep all personal info private. Which leads to the question............

Who is Barrack Obama??

Original birth certificate — Not released
Obama/Dunham marriage license — Not released
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license — Not released
Soetoro adoption records — Not released
Besuki School application — Released
Punahou School records — Not released
Selective Service Registration — Released and under suspicion
Occidental College records — Not released
Passport (Pakistan) — Not released
Columbia College records — Not released
Columbia thesis — Not released
Harvard College records — Not released
Harvard Law Review articles — None (maybe 1, unsigned?)
Baptism certificate — None
Medical records — Not released
Illinois State Senate records — None
Illinois State Senate schedule — Lost
Law practice client list — Not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles — None


55 posted on 07/29/2009 4:11:32 PM PDT by mouse1
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To: pissant; penelopesire; seekthetruth; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; BP2; Pablo Mac; ...

GREAT article .. published on FNC Opinion page

deSeno’s page:

http://justifiedright.typepad.com/


56 posted on 07/29/2009 4:21:41 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: pissant

Of course he’s to blame. It’s like when you were little and another kid said, “I know a secret and I’m not going to tell you!” We all left him or her alone right? We didn’t pester them, did we?

You can’t make people stop digging if you let them think you are hiding something. You’re screwed, obie. It’s just going to keep getting worse until you say, “Yes, I was born in Hawaii, but my daddy is Marshall Davis (or Malcolm X or whoever), not that short, dark, little Obama guy my momma dug up for appearance sake. I don’t look nuttin’ like that dude. Now let’s get health care passed, people!”


57 posted on 07/29/2009 4:24:38 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ( Obama, you're off the island!)
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To: pissant

Dear Congressman,

As you know there are some people in this country that remain skeptical as to the location of President Obama’s birth.

These people, dismissed by some in the media as lunatics and called “Birthers” simply desire proof that the President is a legitimate Constitutionally qualified natural born American.

President Obama could easily clear up the questions surrounding his birth simply by releasing the long form version of his Birth Certificate to the public, but to date President Obama has refused and legally fought challenges to release that document.

The long form version of his Birth Certificate would contain specific information about his birth such as the name of the hospital he was born and the name of the Physician that witnessed his birth.

One of the reason there are so many skeptics is because in 1961 the Hawaii state law made it possible to obtain a Birth Certificate even if you were not physically born in the state see (Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii which was in effect in 1961).

We can understand that if young Ann Dunham had birthed Obama in Kenya that a call to her parents and the idea that their grandson was not natural born might have persuaded the Dunhams to go to the registrar to give young Barack the appearance of being a natural born U.S. Citizen.

In addition, there are numerous inconsitancies when viewing the copies of his Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) and comparing them with Long form versions of Birth Certificates issued to children born around the same time as Obama, i.e., the serialized dept of health number assigned to his COLB is a number that is higher then ones assigned to children born on Aug 5th 1961 a day after his birth and in the same hospital. No one has adequately explained that inconsistancy but it would make sense if his birth was filed with the registrar on a date later then the date on which he was born.

So in order to put this matter to rest I ask you to draft and forward a Congressional Resoluton to Honor the Doctor that brought Obama into the World. There can be no doubt that this Doctors name is historically relevant and it is quite natural and non-political to want to see the Doctor that birthed Obama honored in this fashion, after all he birthed the first black President and the first President from the State Of Hawaii.

This will also allow people to make donations to the Hospital that Obama was born In the name of the One that brought him forth into the world.

Thank you.


58 posted on 07/29/2009 4:25:02 PM PDT by Typical_Whitey (Imagine if Bush had said the police acted stupidly when a black cop arrests a mouthy KKK member.)
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To: what's up

“Full US citizen” is not the requirement
to run for and be POTUS.


59 posted on 07/29/2009 4:25:41 PM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: STARWISE

Oh, I am soooooo bookmarking right here!


60 posted on 07/29/2009 4:31:29 PM PDT by IrishPennant (We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. ~Aesop)
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