Posted on 07/30/2009 11:51:05 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
Do you believe Obama is hiding or lying about something regarding his origins?
Please elaborate.
Yes, a normal person would be open and transparent about their essential records.
It is irrational to fight the release of a long form birth certificate and other documents all the way to the Supreme Court.
Her parents registered her birth with the US Embassy, which issued her a US government birth cert. The Indonesian BC doesn't matter.
When her parents came back to the US in 1977, she was issued a COLB and a passport.
She had been issued a US Passport before she left Indonesia. You don't get a passport after arriving in the U.S., you must have it already to be admitted.
Now, 32 years later, she just got another passport and she only provided her COLB and that old passport.
The old U.S. passport is the proof of U.S. citizenship she needed to obtain a new passport. The COLB was irrelevant.
The COLB doesn't even list her parents but she received her brand new passport in record time just a few weeks ago.
She'd proved U.S. citizenship via an old passport, so unless the application form was messed up it should only take a few weeks. Days if you pay extra.
Yes. If it was only the BC that might be one thing, but it is every document about his life.
Yes!
I believe he is not qualified to be president. His fund raising was done fraudulently and anyone who donated to his campaign should demand their money back. I believe he was not qualified to be a US Senator. I believe he lied on his application to the Bar.
Add another to the yes column.
Of course. But maybe not that he was foreign born. One doesn’t spend the money defending an easily producible document if they aren’t hiding something. Could be BO Sr is not his father. Could be he isn’t black at all, but more Arab. Who knows? We probably will never know because the power trying to hide something is the power that is.
Almost everyone in life has something they are hiding from others in their lives or from the world. Some just have bigger secrets and more dangerous secrets than others. No one goes to so much trouble to hide parts of their life unless there is something questionable, embarrassing, or illegal about their past. An honest person with nothing to hide would disseminate all information being requested from them when asked to do so; especially someone who holds the highest position of power in the land and in the world.
Yet they chronicled every detail of McCain’s health, particularly his melanoma status. And by the way, lots of people thought he might die prematurely in office. Well, McCain is doing just fine. Not a Reagan, but we’d be a lot better off at this point if he had won.
Yes. I believe he holds a dual citizenship.
HOWEVER, the law will be followed dammit.
BTW to be a truther you have to suspend belief in general science. To be a birther you have to believe that one man is hiding something. No conspiracy yet.
I had never considered a deal with Indonesia. Makes sense. Still, you’d have to be perfect and above making mistakes in order to scrub every single scrap of paper that could reveal who you are. How do these buffoons, who can hardly walk and chew gum simultaneously, excel at something that most of us smart people could never pull off?
It was once said by the “Rathers”© on the left, that George W. Bush was not eligible for the office of the presidency because he had gone AWOL during his service in the Air National Guard.
It was a serious accusation, it meant that George W. Bush was guilty of a federal offence under the UCMJ and might not be eligible for the office which he held at the time.
so to silence the “Rathers”© George W. Bush released all his records, in true transparency that included not only his birth certificate (as part of his Officers service record book) but his school records, his medical records his dental records, his flight log book and all military pay records. Faced with this complete disclosure, the “Rathers”© had no choice but to actually forge a fictitious and easily disprovable letter that stated in effect only they wanted to prove.
And now in a mirror opposite of the presidency of George W. Bush, we have another man that is said to be not eligible for the office of the presidency, only this time the “Rathers”© are covering up his past, using forged documents to shield him from scrutiny, and allowing him to spend millions of dollars from his campaign fund to hide a single sheet of paper that would normally cost $12 from being exposed in a court of law.
If Obama had an “R” after his name the “Rathers”© would be rioting in the streets calling for his immediate arrest on a host of charges from forgery to murder.
The Birthers still believe that our laws will eventually win out.
I pray they are right, because if the law fails us by 2012 this country as we knew it won’t exist.
The Dems could make us all look like nuts by producing it. They haven't.
Where there is smoke, it's a good idea to check for fire.
I think Anne is his bio mother. They really do look alike. But Obama does not resemble his purported father at all. Odinga was very dark, with very prominent features. B.O. has none of his features, but he does look just like Frank Marshall Davis.
Yes, he’s both lying and hiding.
Time to release the long-form BC, passport records, school admissions and funding records, overseas contributions to his campaign, etc.
I think he is hiding something. I just don’t know what it is.
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1.Obama delivered not one, but three different COLBs as proof of “natural born citizen” status. The one most commonly referred to by the press is attached. It is clearly a forgery.
2.Also attached is a “real” Hawaiian COLB issued to two twin girls born at one of the “two” hospitals Obama claims to have been born at. Their birth was less than 24 hours after Obama’s alleged birth. You will see that the real COLB looks nothing like the COLB produced by the Obama camp.
3.I have also attached an excerpt of Hawaiian law regarding the rules for issuing a COLB, which does NOT require that a child be born in Hawaii, or even born to US citizens, in order to receive a COLB, which explains how a foreign father could get a Hawaiian COLB for his son. Read it carefully.
4.If you research the Founders remarks regarding their “natural born citizen” clause, Article II - Section I of the US Constitution, you will learn that is doesn’t really matter where Barack Hussein Obama II was born, but rather where his father, Barack Hussein Obama I was a legal citizen at the time of the birth. The “dual citizenship” - “divided loyalty” clause, “natural law” was written into the Constitution for exactly the situation Barack Obama II represents. As the son of a British subject and citizen of Africa, Obama II would by “birth right” - “natural law” automatically adopt the name and citizenship of his father, who was not a US Citizen. This means that Obama II would have the very “dual or divided” loyalties that the Founders attempted to keep out of the Oval Office by way of Article II - Section I. And in case there is any doubt about the dangers involved of ignoring that clause, we can now see first hand, the result of having a president with “divided loyalties” in his “global” agenda, at odds with American interests.
There are two different COLBs. One is a “certificate of live birth” used for Hawaiian born citizens. The other is a “certification of live birth” used for Hawaiian residents born outside of Hawaii. Which one does Obama have, the one referred to by Hawaii officials as “real.?”
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/13223
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Great post. In my spy novel fantasy, brilliant Mossad agents infiltrate all of these institutions and uncover the dirt.
Yes. If there was nothing being hidden, there would be full disclosure of his records, if for no other reason than for historical purposes.
Yes, and the more he tries to hide it or make people who question it out to be lunatics, I think it more so.
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