FR Poll: Do you believe Obama is hiding or lying about something regarding his origins?

July 30, 2009 | Jim Robinson

[Jim Robinson]

Do you believe Obama is hiding or lying about something regarding his origins?

Please elaborate.

[boomop1]

It is curious that a man with no record of accomplishments has hidden the records of his entire life with a special order. What is hidden? Whatever it is, it must be consequential regarding his legitimacy, he is unqualified by all means to be president.

[Calpernia]

Yes he is.

Elaborated Opinion:

OBAMA:

• was born in Kenya.
• is a Kenya “natural born” citizen.
• foreign birth was registered in the State of Hawaii.
• mother gave birth in Mombosa, Kenya.
• mother’s maiden name is Stanley Ann Dunham a/k/a Ann Dunham.
• COLB [Certification of Live Birth] that was posted on the website “Fightthesmears.com” was a forgery.
• was adopted by a Foreign Citizen.
• was adopted by Lolo Soetoro, M.A. a citizen of Indonesia.
• was not born in Hawaii.
• was not born at the Queens Medical Center in Hawaii.
• was not born at Kapi’olani Medical Center for Women and Children in Hawaii.
• was not born in a Hospital in Hawaii.
• is a citizen of Indonesia.
• never took the “Oath of Allegiance” to regain my U.S. Citizenship status.
• is not a “natural born” United States citizen.
• traveled to Pakistan in 1981 via Indonesia to Pakistan on an Indonesian passport.
• Pakistan was under Martial Law, and at war with South India due to a military coup in 1981 and not advisable for American Citizens to travel.
• relatives have requested changes to the portion of his birth certificate that identifies his first name.
• relatives have requested changes to the portion of his birth certificate that identifies his last name.
• relatives have requested changes to the portion of his birth certificate that identifies his place of birth.
• requested changes to the portion of his birth certificate that identifies his first name.
• requested changes to the portion of his birth certificate that identifies his last name.
• requested changes to the portion of my birth certificate that identifies his place of birth.
• The document identified as his Indonesian School record from Fransiskus Assisi School in Jakarta, Indonesia is genuine.
• went to a Judge in Hawaii to have his name changed.
• went to a Senator and/or Congressman or other public official in Hawaii to have his name changed.
• had a passport issued from the Government of Indonesia.
• The United States Constitution does not allow for a Person to hold the office of President of the United States unless that person is a “natural born” United States citizen.
• is ineligible to serve as President of the United States.
• never renounced his citizenship to the country of Indonesia.
• never renounced his citizenship of Kenya.
• is an Attorney who specializes in Constitutional Law.
• Kenya was a part of the British Colonies at the time of his birth.
• Kenya did not become its own Republic until 1963.
• is not a “Naturalized” United States Citizen.
• obtained $200 Million dollars in campaign funds by fraudulent means.
• cannot produce a “vault” (original) long version of a birth certificate showing his birth in Hawaii.
• “vault” (original) long version birth certificate shows his birth in Kenya.
• Queens Medical Center in Honolulu, Hawaii does not have any record of his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham (Obama) giving birth to him.
• Kapi’olani Medical Center for Women and Children in Honolulu, Hawaii does not have any record of his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham (Obama) giving birth to him.
• was born in the Coast Province Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya.
• represented on his State Bar application in Illinois that he never used any other name other than Barack Hussein Obama.
• went by the name Barry Soetoro in Indonesia.
• Indonesian school records are under the name of Barry Soetoro.
• holds citizenship with at least one other Country besides the United States of America.

[SaraJohnson]

I think Bamster is not a natural born citizen by virtue of not having two American parents and he does not want the case going to court because of that. Liberals (in both parties) are hysterical because they know it is legally risky what they have done by putting him in office.

Also, there is something going on with his citizenship after being adopted. He may have duel citizenship or maybe he is Indonesian. Either would disqualify him.

We just need to get standing in a court of law and let a judge sort it out.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks justiceseeker93. We know he’s not hiding the fact that he hates Israel, or the fact that he’s a dolt. :’)

[potlatch]

Your post is very attractive devolve!

[BIGLOOK]

Bookmarked, thanks JJ!

[Rocketwolf68]

We need to explore what the implications are if he is Indonesian or Kenyan. how does that affect the decisions concerning the bailout, car companies and the finance sector. Would those decisions be reversed? And why the hell didn’t the supremes see fit to take up this case pre- inauguration??? What about any military actions? I have a bad feeling about this.

[devolve]

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Thanks potlatch

[GVnana]

McCain produced a birth certificate. Obama didn’t. ‘Nuff said.

[MarMema]

Yes. Why else would you pay so much to have all of your records kept sealed?

[smokingfrog]

Who is this guy Barack Obama anyway? How much do we really know about him? He's the most powerful person in the world and will be 48 years old in a few days. If you were to write his biography today, it would be about 10 pages long!

[PhilDragoo]

Why else would you pay so much to have all of your records kept sealed?

Obamanomics: Pay over a million to suppress a twelve-dollar document.

[SisterK]

He is ssoooo hiding his past. Spent too much money covering up his history.

[smokingfrog]

Chief Justice Roberts: “Okay President-Elect Obama, here’s how it’s going to go. I’m going to swear you in as TEMPORARY President of the United States, until someone with ‘standing’ comes forward to challenge your eligibility.” “How does that sound to you?”

Barack Obama: “Hey, that works for me!”

[Fred Nerks]

I always knew it would be a good idea to save this graphic...

[Lexinom]

It's the same deal as Nixon and Watergate: It's not what's on or not on the birth certificate that's hurting President Obama. It's the cover-up!

Personally, I think he is hiding something other than his birthplace.

[DennisR]

Okay, you got me there...

[Lexinom]

And if you analyze it, dear sir, isn't it almost as damaging to his presidency to have his honesty permanently and publicly called into question as it would be for him to be removed from office? Humility is not one of Obama's flagship characteristics, you'll no doubt agree! Imagine what a large and public dose of humiliation would do to him in light of the image he's so deftly woven of himself.

That is why he is hiding the B.C.

[Red Steel]

Hello JimRob,

Do I believe Obama is hiding or lying about something regarding his origins?

That question is so laughable of course he is - yes.

Here’s another reason among many which should be on this thread. Why has The Kenyan Parliament members talked of Obama as being born (or as close as one can say it) in Kenya, and his visit to Kenya in 2006, did he violate the Logan Act and other possible criminal activity? Comments from Kenyan Parliament and from the website. November 5th, 2008:

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January 27, 2009

Enclosed are direct quotes from Kenya’s National Assembly Official Report for Parliamentary Debates on November 5, 2008.

There are a total of 41 pages (pages 3259 -3299) in the National Assembly Official Report. I have extracted a total of 15 quotes from various Parliamentary members contained in the Kenyan National Assembly Official Report.

1. Several quotes make reference to Barack Obama as “originating from” Kenya (5, 8), “son of this soil” (4) or “we were supporting our own” (15)

2. One quote (9) reveals Barack Obama calling the Vice-President and Minister for Home Affairs at midnight and asking him, “Mr. Vice President, could you make sure you out this problem?”

3. Another quote (12) reveals that Barack Obama had lunch with the Assistant Minister for Defence in 2006 at the Tamarind Retaurant and “cherish the memory of that time.”

4. Another quote (10) reveals where the Assistant Minister for Higher Education, Science and Technology said it is possible for a presidential candidate to become president with “…money which they have gotten legally or illegally…”

FIFTEEN QUOTES WITH COMMENTS

Page 2 (3260)

Speaker: Dr. Khalwale
(1) “… continue the celebrations of having a Kenyan ruling the USA?”

Page 4 (3262)

Speaker: Minister for Public Works – Mr. Obure
(2) “I know that his victory will assist to improve the economic welfare of the people, not only of the USA, but all over the world.”

Page 8 (3266)

Speaker: Assistant Minister for Water and Irrigation – Mr. Kiunjuri
(3) “I am also hoping that there will be no homecoming for Obama.”

Page 17 (3275)

Speaker: Ms. Odhiambo:

(4) “…President-elect, Mr. Obama, is a son of the soil of this country.”
(5) “It is only proper and fitting that the country which he originates from…”

Page 18 (3276)

Speaker: Communication from the Chair
(6) “…United States of America have just had a historic election where the son of this soil, Barrack Hussein Obama…”

Page 19 (3277)

Speaker: Communication from the Chair

(7) “…Thursday 6th November, 2008, a public holiday in honour of the election of Senator Barrack Hussein Obama.”

Speaker: Vice-President and Minister for Home Affairs – Mr. Musyoka:
(8) “…we now have an African American of Kenyan origin being President-elect.”

Page 20 (3278)

Speaker: Vice-President and Minister for Home Affairs – Mr. Musyoka:
(9) “At the beginning of this year, Senator Barrack Obama called me at midnight and told “Mr. Vice President, could you make sure you out this problem?” I want to assure him that problem has since been sorted out.” (Several Members stood up)

Comments:

Obama called Vice-President and Minister for Home Affairs, Mr. Musyoka, at the beginning of the year (2008) and said, “…could you make sure you out this problem?”

Why did several members stand up? Were there other members who were aware of the “problem” as well? It must have been an important “problem.” Obama called the direct phone number of Mr. Musyoka, Vice-President and Minister for Home Affairs at midnight.

What problem was Barack Obama referring to? Birth Certificate perhaps?

Page 26 (3284)

Speaker: Assistant Minister for Higher Education, Science and Technology – Dr. Mwiria:
(10) “Barrack Obama on his victory and also say that even as we look at that victory say it is possible, it is only possible because there are structures in place in the US that make it possible for any potential candidate to win, irrespective of whether they have a lot of money which they have gotten legally or illegally…”

Comments:
Interesting Comment – “money… gotten legally or illegally?” Did Barack Obama receive any “illegal” money from Raila Odinga or Kenya?

Speaker: Ms. Odhiambo
(11) “I want to proudly say that Mr. Barrack Obama falls in the category of the ones that are called Kenyan-Americans.”

Speaker: Assistant Minister for Defence – Major-General Nkaisserry:
(12) “In 2006, I had an opportunity to share lunch with the President-elect of the United States of America at the Tamarind Retaurant. I, therefore, cherish the memory of that time.”

Comments:
Why was Obama meeting the Assistant Minister of Defence of a foreign country in 2006 as a Senator of the United States of America? A meeting that the Assistant Minister of Defence said he will “cherish the memory of that time.”

Page 31 (3289)

Speaker: Assistant Minister for Higher Education, Science and Technology – Mr. Kamama:
(13) “..we would not be celebrating the success of our brother, Obama from Kogelo.”

http://thinknoblethoughts.ning.com/forum/topics/kenyas-parliament-official

And I have the original .pdf of Kenyan government minutes.

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I’ll throw in another reason.

Does Obama still maintain a Indonesian citizenship? Obama admitted on or about October 23, 2008 that he lost his Kenyan citizenship at the age of 21, but he made no mention of an Indonesian citizenship. Was Obama adopted by Soetero and became an Indonesian citizen?

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=72667

For I want some one in the damn press to do their job and ask Obama these pointed question. What Eunuchs.

[FTJM]

Without a doubt Obama is hiding something regarding his origins. Whether he is lying remains to be seen. Releasing the original birth certificate and all amendments is only the first step. The information on it will have to be corroborated with hospital records, if a hospital is listed.

The issue of whether he had Indonesian citizenship and whether he enrolled as a foreign student is also very important, he is also hiding the source information for this too.