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A grief conserved: Perinatal hospice offers alternative to trauma of aborting disabled child
WORLD ^ | August 15, 2009 | Matt Anderson

Posted on 07/31/2009 8:32:29 AM PDT by rhema

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To: ntnychik

I think the point of this was that these were babies who were clearly not going to live much past the first few hours after birth. The author couldn’t see the point of trying to force those people into murdering their children, in the mistaken attempt to not have their pain drawn out, when what they truly needed was just some moral support to be able to have the chance to love that baby, no matter how long it had to live, or even if it were to be stillborn. At least that baby would have felt love up until the minute of his or her death.


41 posted on 07/31/2009 8:30:44 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: rhema

I have a friend that had took a lot of medicine and had surgery not knowing that she was pregnant. She was advised to abort her baby. She was about 6 months along at this time. She refused to kill her baby and now she has a perfect little girl with no birth defects at all.


42 posted on 07/31/2009 8:36:56 PM PDT by NellieMae (Here...... common sense,common sense,common sense,where'd ya go... common sense......)
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To: SuziQ; potlatch

God bless the little ones, their parents, and anyone else involved. It’s good the parents have an alternative to late-term abortion. I hope they find comfort, and I hope the babies got medical care and nutrition.


43 posted on 07/31/2009 10:09:10 PM PDT by ntnychik
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44 posted on 07/31/2009 10:17:52 PM PDT by Salvation (With God all things are possible.)
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I read two interesting stories recently.

One was the experience of a woman whose child had died fairly late in the pregnancy. She was advised that she could wait several days until it was expelled naturally, or she could go through an abortion-like procedure. She made an appointment with the now departed but not missed Tiller. She wanted to see the baby, but Tiller told her it would be dismembered during the process, and would not be viewable. Although she’d thought at the time that having the dead child removed in a process almost identical to abortion was her best option, she regretted it later. Had she waited until the natural expulsion of the dead infant, she would have been able to hold it...

The other thing I read recently was about a study done of women who miscarry but do not expel the dead babies right away. Typically, they are advised to have the remains removed surgically. In the study, half the women were given a choice—whether to wait longer, or to have the remains removed. The other half were given the standard treatment, which was to have the remains removed without being given a real choice. In some cases where the women had elected to wait, the remains were not expelled after a week, and were removed surgically anyway; they were counted along with the women who had elected to wait until nature took its course. Psychological evaluations were made at two different time points afterwards. What the researchers found was that the women who had elected to wait for the dead children to be expelled naturally were psychologically better off than the women who had been advised to undergo a D&C to remove the remains. They suffered less grief. They were more adjusted to the fact that they had lost a child. They were less depressed. (The graphs also showed that the women who had elected to have the remains removed surgically also suffered more, but the differences were not statistically significant.)


45 posted on 08/01/2009 12:08:03 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: rhema; ntnychik; SuziQ; CMoran325; Lorianne; Marysecretary; Guenevere; ASOC; Liberty Valance; ...
I was 19 yrs old when I had my first daughter. I am Catholic and became pregnant again when she was only 9 months old. In my third month I started bleeding and was rushed to the hospital. This happened twice.

From that point on I was told to lie flat on my back in bed until my child was born. My body wanted to abort that child but I did all I could to save it. I had to hire a woman to take care of me as I never moved from that bed.

At 7 months I went into labor and my son was born at only 2 and one half pounds. This was long ago now and there were no ultra sounds. He was baptized and kept in an ‘incubator’ as they called them then. I was never even allowed to go in and hold or touch him. That's how it was then!

The doctor said that the placenta had torn away from the uterine wall and that cause the bleeding. The baby was not getting all the nurishment he needed to grow.

After 4 months flat on my back, I was hardly able to stand and walk at first. It took me some time to become strong again. He was in the hospital for two months. Amazingly, he did well and when he was 4lbs I was allowed to bring him home. He was tiny but beautiful.

When he was 4 months old I found him dead in his crib one morning. Crib death, now called SIDS. The autopsy showed he was perfectly normal with no defects. I had worried about that.

I still cry when I recall all of this. I hope that even one single liberal woman who supports abortion reads this and has a glimmer of what some of us will go through to save our babies.

I even had some tell me, ‘that baby is not meant to be, get up and lose it, you'll have another’! My son is an angel in God's Heaven. What happened was God's will.

I pinged all on this thread. No need at all to reply, I just thought that different stories bring different meanings to the value of a life. Thanks if you just read mine.

46 posted on 08/01/2009 1:41:50 PM PDT by potlatch ( There is no education in the second kick of a mule.)
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Thank you for telling that story. God bless you.


47 posted on 08/01/2009 2:02:44 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (We're definitely in the Rise of the Empire era, but is Obama Valorum or Palpatine?)
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Thank you.


48 posted on 08/01/2009 2:08:08 PM PDT by potlatch ( There is no education in the second kick of a mule.)
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To: potlatch

I know you still think of him. God bless you both. You will see him again.


49 posted on 08/01/2009 2:34:43 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Media: quit making things up." --Sarah Palin)
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Thank you Albion!


50 posted on 08/01/2009 2:49:38 PM PDT by potlatch ( There is no education in the second kick of a mule.)
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“But honestly I do not know that I could have gone through with a stillbirth and seen the baby. I was already heartbroken and I think it would have been too painful (physically and emotionally).”

My points exactly — most doctors don’t even tell you it’s an option. And though you were heartbroken, and it would have been tough — if you could have gone to a hospice and let things happen naturally, and not had an invasive procedure — I think you would have come out the better with others supporting you through it.

Instead, doctors are more concerned about lawsuits — advising their patients to “just get it over with” serves their bottom line and gets their paperwok done (no follow-ups to worry about).


51 posted on 08/01/2009 3:13:48 PM PDT by CMoran325
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To: potlatch

Thank you, potlatch. That was quite a testimony. I pray it opens someone’s eyes.


52 posted on 08/01/2009 3:25:54 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL!)
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I do too Mary. Thank you.


53 posted on 08/01/2009 3:27:10 PM PDT by potlatch ( There is no education in the second kick of a mule.)
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To: potlatch

Thank you for sharing :) Every child matters, and your little one even in his limited time has touched many, including all of us who read your story.


54 posted on 08/01/2009 5:39:00 PM PDT by visualops (portraits.artlife.us or visit my freeper page)
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if you could have gone to a hospice and let things happen naturally, and not had an invasive procedure — I think you would have come out the better with others supporting you through it.

I don't think so actually. I mean it's a thought but then again I had previously gone through a miscarriage where I bled all weekend and was in extraordinary pain and I think it would have been a mistake to risk that again especially since I was a lot farther along than the first miscarriage. In the end I think I would have made that decision even if I had been presented with the choice.
55 posted on 08/01/2009 5:45:45 PM PDT by visualops (portraits.artlife.us or visit my freeper page)
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Thank you visualops!


56 posted on 08/01/2009 5:47:19 PM PDT by potlatch ( There is no education in the second kick of a mule.)
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To: CMoran325

Plus this happened when I was close to 40 years old.


57 posted on 08/01/2009 5:47:55 PM PDT by visualops (portraits.artlife.us or visit my freeper page)
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No need at all to reply, I just thought that different stories bring different meanings to the value of a life. Thanks if you just read mine.

I don't know how I couldn't.

A truly heart-breaking story. God Bless your son, may his name be a blessing. You and he will be reunited, bathed in to Love of God.

58 posted on 08/02/2009 6:22:55 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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Thank you Owl Eagle!


59 posted on 08/02/2009 5:13:36 PM PDT by potlatch ( There is no education in the second kick of a mule.)
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((Hugs)) Potlatch. I’ve known your story, but find the details stunning in print. God bless your beautiful little boy, and thank you for your generosity in caring about my grandson.


60 posted on 08/03/2009 7:24:26 PM PDT by ntnychik
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