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Red State ^ | 7/31/09 | unknown

Posted on 07/31/2009 6:00:44 PM PDT by Semperfiwife

Democrats like to say a lot of things about healthcare, in order to calm the jitters of the voting public. Of course you can keep your current health insurance, they say. The public option will simply keep those private companies in check. Furthermore, they say, fears of rationed care are unfounded — and clearly the fear of mandated euthenasia is pure paranoia.

But are these the facts? Do these calming words have any basis in reality?

As has been noted here and elsewhere, a public option will almost certainly evolve into a single-payer system — and, indeed, that is what it’s designed to do. Rationed care? A necessary symptom of the single-payer system. When a single payer is responsible for the health needs of everybody, there are bound to be some conflicts.

Just ask Ezekiel Emanuel. Ezekiel — Chief of Staff Rham Emanuel’s brother — also works with the Obama administraiton, as a presidential health care advisor. He published an article in January, in a British Medical Journal called ‘Lancet,’ in which he examines, not only the possibility of rationed care, but how to make beaurocratic decisions on who should get limited treatments. (via RightSoup)

E. Emanuel is also, as of March, a member of the Federal Coordinating Council on Comparative Effectiveness Research — tasked with determining a “Federal system for withdrawing care.” He seems more than up to the task.

Writes Emanuel:

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“Such an approach accepts a two-tiered health system-some citizens will receive only basic services while others will receive both basic and some discretionary health services… Substantively, it suggests services that promote the continuation of the polity-those that ensure healthy future generations, ensure development of practical reasoning skills, and ensure full and active participation by citizens in public deliberations-are to be socially guaranteed as basic. Conversely, services provided to individuals who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens are not basic and should not be guaranteed. An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia.”

Scary enough. It gets worse.

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“When implemented, the complete lives system produces a priority curve on which individuals aged between roughly 15 and 40 years get the most substantial chance, whereas the youngest and oldest people get chances that are attenuated.” This may be justified by public opinion, since “broad consensus favours adolescents over very young infants, and young adults over very elderly people.”

Under the Ezekiel Emanuel plan, the infants and the elderly sit rather uncomfortably at the bottom of the food chain, while young adults take precedents over adolescents. And then, incredibly, Emanuel even stipulates that job and social standing will have to be accounted for:

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“Social Value Allocation” prioritizes specific individuals to enable them to promote other important values, or rewards them for having promoted these values. In view of the multiplicity of reasonable values in society and in view of what is at stake, social value allocation must not legislate socially conventional, mainstream values.”

“Allocators must also avoid directing interventions earmarked for health needs to those not relevant to the health problem at hand, which covertly exacerbates scarcity. For instance, funeral directors might be essential to preserving health in an influenza pandemic, but not during a shortage of intensive-care beds. For instance, former organ donors seem to deserve reciprocity since they make a serious sacrifice and since there is no surplus of organ donors. By contrast, laboratory staff who serve as vaccine production workers do not incur serious risk nor are they irreplaceable, so reciprocity seems less appropriate for them.”

In short, if you’re an electrician, and both you and a surgeon need the same liver — guess what? If the Government decides it needs surgeons, you’re what they call in the Insurance business SOL.

More on this can be found at the Washington Times. But one has to ask: if it’s true that regular folks don’t have to worry about things like rationed care under a Federally-run system, then why even submit the theory? And what the hell is going on in Georgia?

Are fears of a “Logan’s Run” kind of world under the Obama administration unfounded? When folks like this are the ones making the decisions on the Administration’s health policy, don’t bet on it. It’s time to get our representatives to read these bills they’re trying to pass. It’s time to let Obama and Company know that we aren’t stupid. Stand up against the Trojan Horse of “public options.” And remember not to eat the green crackers.

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KEYWORDS: obamacare
How "socially valuable" are You???
1 posted on 07/31/2009 6:00:46 PM PDT by Semperfiwife
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To: Semperfiwife
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2 posted on 07/31/2009 6:08:03 PM PDT by dynachrome (I am Jim Thompson!)
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To: Semperfiwife
This is the single most offensive thing I hav e read about uhbama, rahm emanuel, and the MONSTER, rahm emanuel's brother...if the mainstream PRESS will NOT REPORT on the writings of this man who may well sit in judgement of all of us when it comes to WHO GETS CARE, and WHAT THAT CARE CONSISTS OF, then SOMEONE has to take over and shout this from the rooftops...

This man wants to separate people out from health care according to age, over all health, mental acuity, SOCIAL STANDING and CORE VALUES that help shape a good society!!!! WHAT THE HELL???? What in the HELL IS GOING ON?

3 posted on 07/31/2009 6:09:46 PM PDT by Republic (Ubama OWES Sgt Crowley a HUGE APOLOGY right away...if he can man up, he will do this immediately)
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To: Semperfiwife
>>>How “socially valuable” are You???<<<
—I suppose it will be computed by how much one donates to the DNC (race/gender/sexuality quotas not withstanding). This is devastating information Americans need to know and we should run with!
4 posted on 07/31/2009 6:17:44 PM PDT by Shqipo (When Conservatives bicker and stay away from the polls, the country dies a little faster.)
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To: Semperfiwife
Obamacare is to health care as marshal music is to music.

Why does the ONE believe that America sucks in every endeavor except the endeavors that have failed miserably everywhere else on earth over the past two centuries?

Does he hate America more than white people?

Lord,I hope not.

5 posted on 07/31/2009 6:25:36 PM PDT by Happy Rain ("Charlie don't surf--and neither does Obama.")
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To: Republic

I seem to recall something like this in Europe in the 30’s and 40’s. Lemme see....what was it called?....Oh yeah, I remember now. It was called “The Final Solution.” I seems that “Doctor” Emmanuel was born a few years too late. He would have done well in the old days. Well, maybe except for that ethnicity thing.


6 posted on 07/31/2009 6:27:40 PM PDT by navyblue (<u>)
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To: Republic

7 posted on 07/31/2009 6:30:20 PM PDT by Tuxedo (The seeds of the next Revolution are sown....)
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To: Semperfiwife
Thirty five or so years ago I heard a talk on situational ethics. One section covered the notion that the state could be given the power to decide if a person was worthy enough to be allowed to live. I thought at that time, "That's ridiculous. This nation would never tolerate such an idea, let a lone practice it."

Thirty five years later it is almost a reality. If this bill passes I will have to agree with President Obama's statement, "This is no longer a Christian nation."

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8 posted on 07/31/2009 6:31:19 PM PDT by oyez
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To: dynachrome

After Pope John Paul passed away, just as the cardinals were walking into the Sistine chapel to elect a new pope, a reporter stopped one of the cardinals and asked a question about the antichrist.

The cardinal responded very easily and confidently “we know who the Antichrist is and he is alive and well”.

I thought at the time that was a pretty stunning revelation,
And I am not a Catholic.

Just saying...


9 posted on 07/31/2009 6:35:12 PM PDT by muddler
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To: oyez

BTTT


10 posted on 07/31/2009 7:02:56 PM PDT by freednumb (Health care?/ Shmealth care!! It's no care for the infirm or the old...ie only the well)
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So you would receive care if you were”polically correct” enough or politcally connected (properly of course). Otherwise...sol


11 posted on 07/31/2009 7:04:39 PM PDT by freednumb (Health care?/ Shmealth care!! It's no care for the infirm or the old...ie only the well)
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To: freednumb

BTTT


12 posted on 07/31/2009 7:06:14 PM PDT by freednumb (Health care?/ Shmealth care!! It's no care for the infirm or the old...ie only the well)
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To: Republic

Tell it, Republic!

It is maddening what is happening. Totally unbelievable.


13 posted on 07/31/2009 7:28:30 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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The posted article in this thread needs to be read completely and it needs to be sent to every radio host ASAP...this is important if what they say about Rahm's brother is true!

And we need to get a FULL print out the article this man wrote for the medical journal in Britain.

14 posted on 08/01/2009 7:28:07 AM PDT by Republic (Ubama OWES Sgt Crowley a HUGE APOLOGY right away...if he can man up, he will do this immediately)
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