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New Photos Released From Flyover Blunder : The Pentagon also released the flight manifest
NBC NewYork.com ^ | 7/31/2009 | VICTORIA CAVALIERE

Posted on 07/31/2009 9:14:09 PM PDT by mojitojoe

Responding to dozens of requests from the public, the Defense Department has released 146 more photos from the infamous Air Force One flyover that struck fear in thousands of unsuspecting New Yorkers in April.

The photos are posted right on the Pentagon's Website, defense officials said today. The Pentagon also released a heavily redacted flight manifest.

The April 27 photo-op caused quite a fright in Lower Manhattan and New Jersey, as many people who had lived through the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks thought the city was again under siege. Workers poured out of office buildings as the planes buzzed the city near the Financial District.

Local officials in New York and New Jersey had not been informed of the photo-op, which cost some $328,000, and the lack of communication and needless worry caused by the incident led to the resignation of Louis Caldera, the Obama official behind the stunt

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TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: af1; af1groundzeroflyover; airforceone; bhoairforceone; blunders; duplicate; flyover; newyork; obamaaf1flyover; photogate; securitybreach; usaf
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To: mojitojoe

If only AF personnel were on board why were the enlisted who take care of passengers on board? I think they redacted the names of AF personnel especially enlisted because it would show these are the aides that serve the food/drinks to the passengers.


21 posted on 07/31/2009 9:43:41 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: hattend

I think you are correct about donors. I would bet the reason for redacting the stewards was because other members of the AF would know who they are and start questioning why they were on board if there were no passengers. That is my question. From the ranks listed, bet they were the stewards to serve food and drinks. There is a lot of them listed. You would never have that many enlisted unless people are on board other then the crew.


22 posted on 07/31/2009 9:46:03 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: Eagles6; mojitojoe
We have adolescents with a chip on their shoulders in charge.

I must have had too much gin. At first I thought you wrote "a chimp on their shoulders".

23 posted on 07/31/2009 9:48:07 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Eagles6
"We have adolescents with a chip on their shoulders in charge. "

Truer words have never been spoken....
24 posted on 07/31/2009 9:48:36 PM PDT by FrankR (We are only enslaved to the extent of charity we receive....INCUMBENTS OUT!!!)
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To: mojitojoe
Here's a picture of "Air Force Whatever", on its way to Boston to collect the Cop and the Break-In Guy, for the Beer Garden visit with Zer0 and Plugs.


25 posted on 07/31/2009 9:50:07 PM PDT by jws3sticks (Sarah Palin forever!)
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To: 50cal Smokepole; mojitojoe

The only released document available from the referenced sources is FLIGHT AUTHORIZATION, not a manifest listing passengers.

(download the pdf and if necessary the free Adobe Acrobat reader)

The redacted names are all USAF flight personnel, only the commanding officer, Col. S. M. Turner is mentioned by name.

The 24 April 2009 flight had Mission designation AO133 with call sign Venus 01


26 posted on 07/31/2009 9:52:17 PM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: mojitojoe

Something looks funny with that photo.


27 posted on 07/31/2009 9:53:48 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (For those who have had to fight for it, freedom has a flavor the protected shall never know.)
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To: exit82
I also thought there was a “Redtail” chase plane. There were two fighters, F-16s, but the only one in the pictures does not have a red tail. The Redtail must have been the photo plane, then.

Is the F-16 in the picture a single-seater, or a two-seater. If a two-seater, it's the photoplane. The "Redtail" chase plane was definitely a one-seater. IIRC, the Alabama ANG has never explained why one of their airplanes was sent up North to chase AF1.
28 posted on 07/31/2009 9:56:13 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Rebelbase; CheneyChick
Where’s the flight manifest?

Looks like it may have been the photo shoot it was originally reported as.

Flight manifest

29 posted on 07/31/2009 9:58:06 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Rebelbase

The flight manifest looks like it was done on one of those old mimeograph machines.


30 posted on 07/31/2009 10:01:25 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (For those who have had to fight for it, freedom has a flavor the protected shall never know.)
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To: Covenantor

You are right it is just the Flight Authorization. So we still do not have the manifest?


31 posted on 07/31/2009 10:06:13 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Irish Eyes
“The redacted manifest makes no sense to me . Looked at it and do not understand the reason to make the redactions.”

I could understand redacting the security clearances which in this case they did not.

32 posted on 07/31/2009 10:06:30 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (For those who have had to fight for it, freedom has a flavor the protected shall never know.)
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To: Covenantor

Anyone know what the designations for crew position mean? Especially “MEGP”.

The “manifest” tells us the USAF crew.

Why would an unattended flight require such a large crew?


33 posted on 07/31/2009 10:09:10 PM PDT by exit82 (Sarah Palin is President No. 45. Get behind her, GOP, or get out of the way.)
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To: exit82

The crew includes aircraft maintenance folks. They always ride in case something needs fixing.


34 posted on 07/31/2009 10:11:31 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: exit82
Anyone know what the designations for crew position mean? Especially “MEGP”

MEGP is Mission Essential Ground Personnel.

35 posted on 07/31/2009 10:18:33 PM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: Jet Jaguar

JJ, I can understand about maintenance folks.

But this is a 747.

How many people does it take to fly an empty 747?

Two pilots, a navigator, and a techie? There’s only so much you can fix inside a plane.

Seems like a big crew and some high ranks for an unattended flight to me.


36 posted on 07/31/2009 10:20:05 PM PDT by exit82 (Sarah Palin is President No. 45. Get behind her, GOP, or get out of the way.)
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To: Covenantor

Thanks, Covenantor.

What would these folks be doing on the flight? Maintenance types, admin types, stewards?


37 posted on 07/31/2009 10:23:19 PM PDT by exit82 (Sarah Palin is President No. 45. Get behind her, GOP, or get out of the way.)
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To: exit82

They take more than a flying crewchief.

But, I would imagine that some civvies were on the flight. (speculation only)


38 posted on 07/31/2009 10:25:18 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: jws3sticks; mojitojoe
Here's a picture of "Air Force Whatever"

I think the worst thing about that picture is that unattractive-looking white building that has been added to the Statue of Liberty. I winder if that has something to do with post-9/11 security.

39 posted on 07/31/2009 10:37:19 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: hattend

The call sign for the flight was ‘Venus01’.

Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus!

Was the #1 Woman on board?


40 posted on 07/31/2009 10:43:27 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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