Posted on 08/02/2009 11:36:51 AM PDT by GoreNoMore
If with this new birth certificate it is determined that OBAMA is not legal to be president we need to cease his agenda immediately. Congressmen you are RESPONSIBLE as our trustees and I would hate for you to be sued by the AMERICAN PUBLIC for not doing your job.
The end of the Democratic party for sure.
I would like a list of Congressmen that are sticking their heads in the sand.
Which congressmen voted for the bailouts?
Which congressmen are voting for this hellaious health care bill?
I’m sure there are more, please add.
We’ve lost our jobs, we are losing our rights, and we will have to hold congressmen accountable.
I bet nothing stops or slows down....
The approach will be “YOU prove it”
if the obamanation is a fraud, then he should be removed immediately. We cannot have a criminal serving as president of America or stomping us into the ground in his quest of fascism control!!
He has already cost the American people trillions of dollars, loss of income, loss of savings, and a wide divide between the races. WE CAN'T LET HIM CONTINUE DESTROYING US
Sadly it has taken both parties to get us to this point.
Bush Sr wrote Nafta and Clinton got it pushed thru. Remember the Savings and Loan debacle, alot of legislation has happened with both parties in control and look where we are. It is time for this country to stop the divide and join together to get this crap stopped.
This country is made up of alot of great republicans and democrats and neither American republican or democrat is happy with what is being rammed down our throats.
Fantastic, except, there is no challenge from inside government. So where does that leave anyone except to try to change the representation. If you aren’t patient, press your local representatives. When they are adequately pressed they press those above them and the ball rolls up hill. Why do you think secessionist talk scares them so badly? They could soon be the government of nothing.
Look at what is happening this August break. The townhall meetings are becoming loud and unruly.
These congressmen better wake up before the public holds them PERSONALLY accountable.
Tar and Feather comes to mind
If any congressman holds townhall meetings during the August break, please attend, copy this birthcertificate and pass them out. Leave them around town, copy and e-mail to all on your list. The CORRUPT, OBSOLETE, MEDIA, FOX included should be ashamed of themselves, they have now lowered themselves below the NATIONAL ENQUIRERE.
Pink slips for anyone that quotes the media because I HAVE HAD IT WITH THEM..
AC360, HANNITY & COLMES, O’REALLY, all of them are for S*&T
The media and newspapers are already trying to say its a fake. A conservative friend of mine told me that he just read some where where they are saying its fake.
They will cover for this guy no matter what he does. It’s obvious, and I think the Republican leadership is too weak to do anything.
There was a time when accountability could be fatal.
Remember Virginia City, Montana 1863 when local Committee’s for Public Safety brought out the ropes with thirteen loops above the noose!
There was a time when accountability could be fatal.
Remember Virginia City, Montana 1863 when local Committee’s for Public Safety brought out the ropes with thirteen loops above the noose!
SEND THIS TO ALL YOUR CONGRESSIONAL REPS
I wonder how they feel in Michigan now?
Please consider these points:
1. If he is not an American natural born citizen by birth I would suggest that the best you could get him on is fraud, treason is relegated to American citizen.
2. The charge in theory would be against those whom certified him president to include VP Cheney, and every state that put him on the states ballot (sec state)
3. the House would be open to charges of crimes against the country for willingly approving of plans and policies that are diametrically opposite of what the constitution says that they have the authority to pass into law.
We can be charged with contempt of congress, how about we hold congress in contempt of the people
Just some food for thought.
The largest thing that is happening is that the agenda is UNRAVELLING. Those that allowed and helped commit this upon the American people against our military should be very worried.
Watch as it UNRAVELS, it’s happening at a much faster pace, I’d would expect anything to happen to get this off the forfront of the American Public. Watch the media, they seem to support his agends because the done NOT A DAMN thing to help the efforts.
They haven’t even supported the attorney that PUSHES this forward, that sould speak VOLUMNES to you.
Yea, the CHANGE that people voted for as the CHANGE that the other goons just could not complete.
Oh yes, yes they should. The government of the USA is illegal, and it is rogue.
Exhibit A, The Twentieth Amendment, Section 3 reads as follows:
" 3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.
Exhibit B U. S. Code, CITE: 3USC19
TITLE 3--THE PRESIDENT, CHAPTER 1- PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS AND VACANCIES
Sec. 19. Vacancy in offices of both President and Vice President; officers eligible to act
(a)(1) If, by reason of death, resignation, removal from office, inability, or failure to qualify, there is neither a President nor Vice President to discharge the powers and duties of the office of President, then the Speaker of the House of Representatives shall, upon his resignation as Speaker and as Representative in Congress, act as President.
Exhibit C: U. S. Constitution, Article Six Oath of Office for elected officials:
The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.
Exhibit D: The Electoral Vote Counting Act of 1877:
The process currently provides that someone challenge the electoral votes during a short, specified time frame while the Electoral College votes are opened and tabulated. This process does not cover challenges to "eligibility" qualifications. In fact, if this act pretends to do so in the manner in which it prescribes, it is unconstitutional. Any act of this sort that does not require that qualifications be presented by the President elect serves to undercut the provisions in the Constitution itself. No act that does not support the Constitution is constitutional. In order to change the requirements of the Twentieth amendment, one would need to pass another amendment. An Act doesnt cut the mustard.
The portion in bold stating or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify in section three is particularly interesting in that it plainly seems to infer that a qualification of some sort must be made in order to serve as President. Certainly, one cannot argue that it does not require a qualification process for one to qualify. To infer that the lack of a specified qualification process means that stated eligibility qualifications for the office of president can be ignored is fallacious. The wording of this passage in the twentieth amendment clearly infers that a qualification is required, regardless of how this is done.
There is only one set of qualifications listed anywhere in the Constitution that are not health related and they are listed in Article two, section one.
No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
To satisfy meeting the requirement of the twentieth amendment to qualify, a president elect must present evidence that he meets its requirements for eligibility to serve. This means that a proper birth certificate HAD to be presented by the president elect in order to serve as president. In fact, without establishing whether or not the President elect is "qualified", Congress would not know whether or not to step in and name a temporary replacement as the Amendment requires. Certainly, this means that the proof of "qualifications" must be presented to Congress.
If this was done, where is that certificate and to whom was it presented? If this was done, why would we not have the right to verify and inspect it under the freedom of information act?
If it was NOT done, then under the provisions of the twentieth amendment, Barrack Obama has failed to qualify and should not be serving as president of the United States of America.
Based upon the above, I conclude that:
1. We currently have a vacancy at President because no one has yet qualified as required in the Twentieth amendment. The terms "The President elect shall have failed to qualify" clearly places this burden upon the President elect and not on someone raising their hand in objection.
2. Anyone serving in Congress (see Congress in bold in Exhibit A), or anyone who is currently serving under the oath of office in Article six has "standing" and can DEMAND that their oaths be met by receiving proper qualifying documentation from Mr. Obama. This charade at the time of counting the Electoral College votes does not limit their ability to do so at any time they so choose. The very fact that they are duty-bound by oath to "support" the Constitution REQUIRES them to respond to any and all attacks against it. No judge can deny any of them the standing to do so. It would ask them to break the law in their effort to enforce the law.
3. We need to start pressing legal charges against all of our local representatives and senators covered by the oath of office in Article six for disobeying their oaths to support the Constitution as it pertains to the language of section three of the Twentieth amendment. Put PRESSURE on them to represent the document that gives them their authority in the first place. We are looking into how best to do this down here. We all should be looking into this approach. NOW.
That post is really worth looking at.
We need to work together and send to the military, these guys use their life to defend us and they deserve us doing our part.
Related thread:
Andrew Sullivan: Back To Square One [Andrew Sullivan, Semi-Birther?]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2305794/posts
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>>>The end of the Democratic party for sure.
Please.
The idiots that voted for 0bummer, the same ones that can’t see that the country as we knew it is about to die, certainly don’t give a crap where the clown in the oval office was born.
This whole issue is like pissing in the wind and saying “My, what a nice warm shower.”.
I personally lay blame at the feet of the corrupt media.
when local Committees for Public Safety brought out the ropes with thirteen loops above the noose!
Someone FINALLY gets it! HANG THEM FOR TREASON.... When will the trials start?
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