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Clinton 51%, Palin 39%
Rasmussen Reports ^ | August 4, 2009 | Scott Rasmussen

Posted on 08/04/2009 11:35:12 AM PDT by DanZanRyu

If America elects a woman president soon, right now her name appears to be Hillary Clinton.

In a hypothetical match-up between the two most formidable female candidates in their respective parties, Clinton defeats former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin 51% to 39%, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of likely U.S. voters. Seven percent (7%) prefer some other candidate.

Clinton performs better against Palin than President Obama who in a hypothetical 2012 match-up beats last year’s GOP vice presidential nominee by just six points, 48% to 42%.

Women overwhelmingly favor Clinton over Palin, 59% to 32%. Men favor the GOP ex-governor by eight points, 48% to 40%.

Palin gets 71% of the Republican vote, while Clinton captures 81% of Democrats. Voters not affiliated with either party break down almost evenly between the two candidates, giving Clinton a slight 44% to 41% edge.

(Excerpt) Read more at rasmussenreports.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: hillary2012; palin2012; womanpresident

1 posted on 08/04/2009 11:35:12 AM PDT by DanZanRyu
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To: DanZanRyu

I bet Clinton/Obama numbers were even worse three years out. Who cares? If Palin had a chance to campaign and debate, it is very possible we would see a different result.


2 posted on 08/04/2009 11:36:40 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: DanZanRyu

great! arbitrage opportunity! sell clinton, buy palin.


3 posted on 08/04/2009 11:37:09 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (The revolution IS being televised.)
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To: DanZanRyu

As far as women are concerned, it comes down to the abortion issue. That is why Hillary is leading this poll. I think that even though Sarah is trailing Hillary, the fact she is within 11 points is pretty darn good, considering Hillary actually ran for President and campaigned and Sarah did not


4 posted on 08/04/2009 11:37:35 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: DanZanRyu

Wow! Wonder if women are voting against Palin because she is sexy and pretty... I know the men are! (ducking)


5 posted on 08/04/2009 11:38:16 AM PDT by John123 (Turn on your teleprompter Obama and read your lips... "No New Taxes!!")
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To: ilgipper

IMHO, it is over for Hillary. If she could not win on Bush’s exit, no way in Hades will she win after dems are done trashing the country.


6 posted on 08/04/2009 11:38:28 AM PDT by DonaldC
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To: DanZanRyu
Men favor the GOP ex-governor by eight points, 48% to 40%.

So much for the characterization of conservative men as knuckle-dragging sexist pigs.

7 posted on 08/04/2009 11:38:28 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: ilgipper
Palin can't win. Palin is no good. Insert Palin rumors. Democrats are invincible and universally loved. Did I forget anything?
8 posted on 08/04/2009 11:38:39 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: DanZanRyu

Well, that’s only fantasy.

The only way that would happen is if Hitlary jumps off the ZERO EXPRESS slashes his tires.


9 posted on 08/04/2009 11:40:18 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: DanZanRyu

More proof that 50% of the country are STILL idiots


10 posted on 08/04/2009 11:40:45 AM PDT by TV Dinners (Hope is not a Strategy)
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To: ilgipper

Continuing growth of the non-white population is going to make it impossible for conservatives to get elected.


11 posted on 08/04/2009 11:41:42 AM PDT by American Silver Eagle
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To: DanZanRyu

Oh heck, Bubba wins just because of the potential entertainment factor.

That scamp.


12 posted on 08/04/2009 11:42:26 AM PDT by RexBeach
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To: DanZanRyu

Tell you what: keep playing Hillary’s “I’m sick and tired...” screeching speech over and over and you’ll see a flip-flop on numbers!


13 posted on 08/04/2009 11:45:52 AM PDT by brushcop (SFC Sallie, CPL Long, LTHarris, SSG Brown, PVT Simmons KIA OIF lll&V, they died for you, honor them)
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To: DonaldC
"IMHO, it is over for Hillary. If she could not win on Bush’s exit, no way in Hades will she win after dems are done trashing the country."

I agree that it's over for her as a nationally elected politician. With one caveat - If Biden somehow finds himself off the ticket in 2012, I'll give you one guess who his replacement will be.

Hilary's no spring chicken. Thatcher was 53 or 54 when she assumed the role of Prime Minister. Clinton would be 69 for the 2016 election. It may sound sexist, but America is not going to elect a 70 year-old woman when they already passed on a 70 year-old war hero.

14 posted on 08/04/2009 11:46:14 AM PDT by OldDeckHand (No Socialized Medicine, No Way, No How, No Time)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Seems to me that although Sarah personally opposes it that she did nothing as governor to outlaw abortion - she figured it was the law or something. Pro-abortion people don’t have much to fear - we had Bush for 8 years and we still have abortion.


15 posted on 08/04/2009 11:48:13 AM PDT by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: Sarah Barracuda

16 posted on 08/04/2009 11:48:26 AM PDT by byteback
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To: DanZanRyu

Palin has high negatives among Democrats. It’s that simple.


17 posted on 08/04/2009 11:48:38 AM PDT by sourcery (Obama Lied. The Economy Died!)
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To: OldDeckHand

I have a feeling that Obama will force Biden into retirement in 2012, and replace him either Mark Warner or Colin Powell.


18 posted on 08/04/2009 11:49:36 AM PDT by yongin
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To: DanZanRyu

what a stupid poll. Hilary won’t run in 2012 and she’ll be too old in 2016.


19 posted on 08/04/2009 11:50:48 AM PDT by balch3
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To: Luke21
Palin can't win. Palin is no good. Insert Palin rumors. Democrats are invincible and universally loved. Did I forget anything?

Yes, the sarcasm tag. LOL
20 posted on 08/04/2009 11:51:23 AM PDT by Know et al (Everything I know I read in the newspaper and that's the reason for my ignorance: Will Rogers)
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To: DanZanRyu
nteresting poll:

Overall
Clinton 51%
Palin 39%

Obama 48%
Palin 42%

Women
Clinton 59%
Palin 32%

Men
Palin 48%
Clinton 40%

Independents
Clinton 445
Palin 41%

Republicans
Palin 71%

Dims
Clinton 81%

So Palin is doing much better against 0bama than against Clinton. 0bama’s communist agenda is already starting to bite him in the butt.
And Palin is doing much better amongst independents than the media keep propagating.
However, Plain needs to work to do more work to get a heck of a lot higher share of the Republican vote. 71% share of the Republican vote is just not good enough if you wanna beat Zero in 2012.
But hey, it's early days yet. We have over 3 years to go. We all remember them polls that had Hilary already having the Democratic nomination “sewn up”, back in 2007, don't we?

21 posted on 08/04/2009 11:52:03 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: byteback

YUCK, it’s a good thing I already ate hours ago or else I might have puked at that photo


22 posted on 08/04/2009 11:52:42 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: byteback

The Twilight Zone Returns?


23 posted on 08/04/2009 11:54:19 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

Considering she has not campaigned or even announced she is running for President, this is really good. Rasmussen seems to be a pretty accurate poll so I don’t doubt the poll numbers, maybe they are off by a point or two. But the main issue with women is abortion. My Mom’s friend, who is a Dem, did not like Obama but did not want Sarah Palin in the White House because she said “I don’t want her to take away my right to have an abortion” so far as women are concerned, it’s the abortion issue that tends to sway them away from Sarah Palin. I think Sarah has a MUCH better chance at beating Obama, which is why he keeps on finding people to attack her. I don’t see Hillary running in 2012, she had her chance and blew it


24 posted on 08/04/2009 11:56:29 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: DanZanRyu

Uh huh. Sure.


25 posted on 08/04/2009 11:57:22 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: balch3

“Hilary won’t run in 2012 and she’ll be too old in 2016.”

Don’t count on that. No one has more ambition that she has.
Anything can happen in politics.
Se wouldn’t be the first Sec of State to become president would she?


26 posted on 08/04/2009 11:59:17 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: DanZanRyu

Big deal. The earliest we could see a Palin-Clinton showdown would be in 2016, if ever.


27 posted on 08/04/2009 11:59:55 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Obi-Wan Palin: Strike her down and she shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.)
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To: Aria
she did nothing as governor to outlaw abortion

The Governor doesn't make laws. Congress does. To end abortion we need a Conservative Supreme Court. You think she would not appoint pro-life SCOTUS if given the chance?

28 posted on 08/04/2009 12:01:15 PM PDT by SolidWood (Sarah Palin: "Only dead fish go with the flow!")
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To: DanZanRyu

This could actually be good news. First, there’s probably some buyer’s remorse in that poll from Obama voters. And when you consider that the state controlled media have already shot their wad when it comes to Palin-bashing, she has nowhere to go but up.


29 posted on 08/04/2009 12:02:16 PM PDT by clintonh8r (Honduras can happen here. Yes it can!)
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To: DanZanRyu

Hillary the paper champion. She aws a world beater at this point in the last cycle.


30 posted on 08/04/2009 12:02:50 PM PDT by Augustinian monk
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To: DanZanRyu

People are not liking zero’s policies, so they gravitate toward the nearest similar candidate. Makes sense to me.


31 posted on 08/04/2009 12:03:19 PM PDT by throwback
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To: throwback

I can’t pray hard enough for Sarah Palin!


32 posted on 08/04/2009 12:08:22 PM PDT by bicyclerepair (Thank you Mr. Robinson (toodamtall1@yahoo.com))
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To: Sarah Barracuda
My Mom’s friend, who is a Dem, did not like Obama but did not want Sarah Palin in the White House because she said “I don’t want her to take away my right to have an abortion” so far as women are concerned, it’s the abortion issue that tends to sway them away from Sarah Palin. “

Pretty much.
I have a liberal female friend(I know. I know. What was I thinking?), and her number one gripe against Sarah Palin is “taking away her right to abortion”.
Question is, who needs such a right which allows doctors to kill unborn babies anyway?
Not to mention the President Of the United Stares does not take away rights to anything.
What Sarah can do as president is to stop the Federal Government subsidizing abortions, or pushing a pro-abortion agenda like 0bama is doing, and of course appoint normal human beings to the Supreme court instead of racist, aborting loving pigs like Sotomayor.

I think Sarah has a MUCH better chance at beating Obama, which is why he keeps on finding people to attack her”

Oh yes.
Nothing else can explain why 0bama’s hatchet men spend 99% of their time and efforts attacking and smearing Sarah.
The little weasel empty suit 0bama is running sacred.

33 posted on 08/04/2009 12:12:58 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: SolidWood

I thought I read about something she did that showed her being rather pragmatic about this - something she had to deal with as governor..... I don’t doubt for a second that she is absolutely against abortion and of course would want to appoint pro-life judges and encourage pro-life policy.

I’ll have to see if I can find what I think I remember regarding this.


34 posted on 08/04/2009 12:18:12 PM PDT by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: Aria

You must be thinking about the “parental notification” thing... which reduces the number of abortions, but implies an acceptance of the notion of abortion per se (if melt it down to the core). But as already said... it was not within her power as governor to end abortion.


35 posted on 08/04/2009 12:22:29 PM PDT by SolidWood (Sarah Palin: "Only dead fish go with the flow!")
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To: Sarah Barracuda

{As far as women are concerned, it comes down to the abortion issue. That is why Hillary is leading this poll}

With women on the East and West Coasts, definitely.

However, some evangelical women may be turned off by Sarah as well. These Church Ladies feel that Sarah is acting like an improper mother, being in the public spotlight. According to them, Sarah should be a homemaker.


36 posted on 08/04/2009 12:23:04 PM PDT by yongin
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To: SolidWood
It might have been this:

Earlier this year, Palin rejected adding debates over a partial-birth abortion ban and parental consent measure to the special legislative session. While that may have seemed like a rejection of the pro-life position, Palin said legislative leaders have given her no plan for successfully passing the bills.

While she would have preferred to see the bills put into law, she had no guarantee that spending significant amounts of taxpayer funds on the special session would result in a bill that would be sent to her desk to sign.

I think she makes sense. Why spend $ on something likely to lose. There has been no politician since Reagan that I totally supported until Sarah. She is amazing and I hope the rats haven't ruined her for the fight. We desperately need her.

37 posted on 08/04/2009 12:36:50 PM PDT by Aria ( "The US republic will endure until Congress discovers it can bribe the public with the people's $.")
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To: DanZanRyu

Are there really going to be many democratic voters after 2009? With the rate thigns are deteroiating I can’t imagine that anyone would vote for more of this?


38 posted on 08/04/2009 12:37:31 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: John123

Women are voting for Sarah because she is smart, Conservative & good looking.


39 posted on 08/04/2009 12:39:06 PM PDT by jrcats (Well, I never thought there was going to be a worse President than Carter but Obama has him beat.)
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To: jrcats
Women are voting for Sarah because she is smart, Conservative & good looking.

Absolutely! :)

40 posted on 08/04/2009 12:52:42 PM PDT by John123 (Turn on your teleprompter Obama and read your lips... "No New Taxes!!")
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Not all women.

My wife is 21, pro-life. we have two almost 9 month old twin girls. She is mostly apolitical. not really intrested in politics. but definately pro-life. and she likes Palin.

but a lot of the other people I know just shock me with their PDS and their almost instant crazy hatred of the woman.


41 posted on 08/04/2009 12:53:58 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative (Sarah Palin in 2012 !)
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To: DonaldC

Hillary is yesterday’s news. She’s overexposed, and she would catch the blowback from the abomination that is the current administration. I would not want to be a Democrat running for election in ‘010. Clearly, there is a groundswell building that will at least take back many House seats, and enough Senate seats to extinguish the 60 seat majority. It just can’t happen soon enough.


42 posted on 08/04/2009 1:06:48 PM PDT by shotdog (I love my country; it's my government I'm afraid of.)
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To: DanZanRyu

Right. Obama will take a header and let Hillary run. I think I am going to throw up in my mouth now!


43 posted on 08/04/2009 1:50:30 PM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: DanZanRyu
America is not ready to elect a woman President and I do not think America will be ready to do so for long time to come. Hillary Clinton defeat in the democrat primaries last year was an example of that. I hope that some on our side realize this fact before they will be faced with a very bitter disappointment.

Poll after poll shows that Americans prefer a man President over a woman President and almost half of the woman have this man President preference and an overwhelming majority of man do.

44 posted on 08/04/2009 1:56:33 PM PDT by jveritas (God Bless our brave troops)
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To: byteback

Are these people women or drag queens? It’s hard to tell.


45 posted on 08/04/2009 2:07:30 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: yongin

“According to them, Sarah should be a homemaker”

A few maybe


46 posted on 08/04/2009 3:21:50 PM PDT by beefree (God bless our troops and vets.)
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