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Russian Subs Patrolling Off East Coast of U.S.
The New York Times ^ | August 4, 2009 | Mark Mazzetti & Thom Shanker

Posted on 08/04/2009 3:04:17 PM PDT by Saint Reagan

WASHINGTON — A pair of nuclear-powered Russian attack submarines has been patrolling off the eastern seaboard of the United States over recent days, a rare mission that has raised concerns inside the Pentagon and intelligence agencies about a more assertive stance by the Russian military.

The episode has echoes of the cold war era, when the United States and the Soviet Union regularly parked submarines off each other’s coasts to steal military secrets, track the movements of their underwater fleets — and be poised for war.

But the collapse of the Soviet Union all but eliminated the ability of the Russian Navy to operate far from home ports, making the current submarine patrols thousands of miles from Russia even more surprising for military officials and defense policy experts.

“I don’t think they’ve put two first-line nuclear subs off the U.S. coast in about 15 years,” said Norman Polmar, a naval historian and expert on submarine warfare.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: appeasement; bhorussia; bhoussr; coldwar2; communism; kgb; navair; navy; putin; redarmy; resetbutton; russia; russianmilitary; russiannavy; russkiesop; sovietnavy; sovietunion; ussr; ussr2
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1 posted on 08/04/2009 3:04:18 PM PDT by Saint Reagan
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To: Saint Reagan

Someone needs to turn that into a .gif that turns from
“reset” to “Launch”.


2 posted on 08/04/2009 3:06:16 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Saint Reagan

Maybe they’re planning to take out Congress. Now that would be such a shame.


3 posted on 08/04/2009 3:06:40 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Saint Reagan
Russian Subs Patrolling Off East Coast of U.S.,

With a Virginia class SSN following in close proximity.

4 posted on 08/04/2009 3:08:23 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Cementjungle

They most likely have permission from whats his name.


5 posted on 08/04/2009 3:08:31 PM PDT by RC2
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To: RC2
They most likely have permission from whats his name.

They have mine too.

6 posted on 08/04/2009 3:09:39 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Cementjungle

I’m sure we are doing the same to them.


7 posted on 08/04/2009 3:11:45 PM PDT by DonaldC
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To: Red Steel
Russian Subs Patrolling Off East Coast of U.S.,

With a Virginia class SSN following in close proximity.


No Doubt.
8 posted on 08/04/2009 3:11:58 PM PDT by ScubieNuc
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To: ScubieNuc

Maybe even the SS Texas?


9 posted on 08/04/2009 3:14:06 PM PDT by GeronL (Guilty of the crime of deviationism.)
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To: Red Steel

But probably under orders to do absolutely nothing if our Russian friends decide to do anything rash.


10 posted on 08/04/2009 3:14:11 PM PDT by wally_bert (My doctor says that I have a malformed public-duty gland and a natural deficiency in moral fibre)
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To: Saint Reagan

their subs don’t even need to do anything to be a threat:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_submarine_K-219


11 posted on 08/04/2009 3:20:40 PM PDT by robertwalker62
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To: Saint Reagan

Is a military coup in the works for the U.S.? Will someone stand up and say “Enough!”


12 posted on 08/04/2009 3:21:25 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( I hate all politicians. Including republicans.)
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To: Saint Reagan

Biden said we’d be tested in the Zero administration and that we may not like the way they respond. Hope he’s wrong on both occasions. We haven’t like the way they’ve responded to anything yet.


13 posted on 08/04/2009 3:24:23 PM PDT by From The Deer Stand
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To: wally_bert

Why should they do anything rash? That implies that they find us threatening. The best and bravest armed forces in the world has it’s collective hands tied.


14 posted on 08/04/2009 3:25:31 PM PDT by greatplains
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To: Saint Reagan

what about their boomers?


15 posted on 08/04/2009 3:25:31 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (if the government makes trading a used car this hard how are they going to handle a doctor visit?)
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To: Saint Reagan

Fear not, Comrades. Premier Obama is my homie.

16 posted on 08/04/2009 3:25:39 PM PDT by Popman
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To: wally_bert
But probably under orders to do absolutely nothing if our Russian friends decide to do anything rash.

It's probably sailing with a training crew of inexperienced conscripts. The fear is not that they'll do something rash, but something extremely stupid.

17 posted on 08/04/2009 3:25:39 PM PDT by Tonytitan
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To: Saint Reagan

Are they trying to defect?
Should we call in U.S.S. Dallas?

Where the heck is Jack Ryan when you need him???


18 posted on 08/04/2009 3:26:58 PM PDT by BlueNgold (... Feed the tree!)
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To: Saint Reagan

What Would Sarah Do?


19 posted on 08/04/2009 3:34:50 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: Saint Reagan
If the Soviet err, 'Russian' subs are just attack 'SSN' type boats, I'm not so concerned.

On the other hand, if they were armed with cruise missiles or ballistic missiles, I think I would be VERY concerned, and as other posters have mentioned, hopefully we've got some of our own subs keeping close tabs on them.
20 posted on 08/04/2009 3:36:48 PM PDT by mkjessup (Excuse me Mr. 0bama? No documentation = No eligibility, ok? Now GTF out of OUR White House, got it?)
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To: Saint Reagan

And this is news how?


21 posted on 08/04/2009 3:37:30 PM PDT by lakeman
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To: Saint Reagan
Let's not forget those bastards at Toshiba who sold them the technology to duplicate our silent propulsion and the ability to track OUR subs with.

It may have been in the 80's, but there will never be ANY Toshiba products in this house!

How many folks today even remember this? I'll bet there are a good many Freepers using Toshiba laptops.

22 posted on 08/04/2009 3:43:51 PM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Slump Tester

This particular Freeper will Never buy Toshiba, for just that reason.


23 posted on 08/04/2009 3:55:20 PM PDT by RoadGumby (Ask me about Ducky)
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To: NativeNewYorker
What Would Sarah Do?

In any situation, or crisis, I am confident that a President Palin would always err on the side of protecting her country, even if it risked being 'chastised' by leaders of other nations or their citizens.

24 posted on 08/04/2009 4:03:37 PM PDT by jla
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To: Slump Tester

Forney, Wampum, Pa.


25 posted on 08/04/2009 4:17:29 PM PDT by Ed Condon (Wanted, newer tag line in good condition.)
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To: Saint Reagan

Nothing to see here, it’s just Obama’s ride to Martha’s Vineyard.


26 posted on 08/04/2009 4:33:16 PM PDT by Indy Pendance ("The beauty of the 2nd is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Tonytitan

I could see the stupid side now that you mention it. However since they are just learning, anything they do is OK as per 0’s rules of engagement.


27 posted on 08/04/2009 4:39:10 PM PDT by wally_bert (My doctor says that I have a malformed public-duty gland and a natural deficiency in moral fibre)
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To: Saint Reagan

Cold War II


28 posted on 08/04/2009 5:16:54 PM PDT by PureSolace (Trust in God)
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To: Indy Pendance

Either that or the Russians want to trade in their Clunkers.


29 posted on 08/04/2009 5:23:54 PM PDT by Palladin (Me to Gubmint Healthcare Counselor: "Get your ass out of here or YOU will be in intensive care!")
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To: Palladin

Clunker subs? LOL!


30 posted on 08/04/2009 5:29:22 PM PDT by Indy Pendance ("The beauty of the 2nd is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ScubieNuc

I myself am not terribly worried about it, since those are probably the only two sea-worthy submarines in the entire Russian fleet.


31 posted on 08/04/2009 5:32:03 PM PDT by Thane_Banquo (The GOP: The Big Tent with a Fifth Column.)
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To: Slump Tester; Saint Reagan; RoadGumby

The Swedes were complicit in that betrayal as well - a Swedish company called Kongsberg.


32 posted on 08/04/2009 5:32:23 PM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: RC2

Or they have come to rescue us from our oppressive government.


33 posted on 08/04/2009 5:33:20 PM PDT by conservativegranny
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To: Saint Reagan

They just want to enjoy the FL coast now that the snowbirds are up north.


34 posted on 08/04/2009 5:37:32 PM PDT by synbad600
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To: NativeNewYorker

She’d do absolutely nothing. She would (hopefully) let the Navy handle it.


35 posted on 08/04/2009 5:37:46 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (Fides et Audax)
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It only takes 5-15 minutes from a Russian sub missile launch either from the West or East Coasts to hit any city.Very little time to take cover.It takes the same amount of time for our missiles from a Trident submarine to hit their Russian targets.


36 posted on 08/04/2009 5:38:40 PM PDT by sonofstrangelove
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To: Saint Reagan
They provide security for Obama on his sabbaticals to Moscow, courtesy of Putin and Soros.

37 posted on 08/04/2009 5:40:39 PM PDT by bd476
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To: Saint Reagan

Hey Obeyme- your ride is here


38 posted on 08/04/2009 5:42:15 PM PDT by MissDairyGoodnessVT ("Economy is the method by which we prepare today to afford the improvements of tomorrow"C.Coolidge)
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To: Saint Reagan
The NYT's sonar has detected it.

Good job NYT! /s

39 posted on 08/04/2009 5:42:32 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Saint Reagan

The big question here is why would the New York Times have/been given this knowledge? The follow-up question is why are they being reported?


40 posted on 08/04/2009 5:43:18 PM PDT by Swan
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To: Saint Reagan; All

This is why we need to be investing in modern diesel boats.


41 posted on 08/04/2009 5:45:47 PM PDT by rottndog (WOOF!!!!!)
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To: sonofstrangelove

42 posted on 08/04/2009 5:47:32 PM PDT by sonofstrangelove
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To: Saint Reagan
“Anytime the Russian Navy does something so out of the ordinary it is cause for worry,” said a senior Defense Department official who has been monitoring reports on the submarines’ activities.

Yeah!

Submarines will take the focus off of those who really are for the destruction of the USA post haste......

Liberals in power and Al Qeada as a close second.

43 posted on 08/04/2009 5:48:47 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Saint Reagan
OMG The Russians Are Coming!


44 posted on 08/04/2009 5:49:06 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Don’t worry about the Ruskies missels we have our Laser trained on it right now. As soon as the silo door opens we will melt it in seconds. Shhhhh maybe I wasn’t supposed to tell that.................


45 posted on 08/04/2009 5:52:54 PM PDT by PROSOUTH ( Deo Vindice "God Will Vindicate")
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To: Slump Tester
Let's not forget those bastards at Toshiba who sold them the technology to duplicate our silent propulsion and the ability to track OUR subs with.

Toshiba sold machining technology used in the manufacture of propellers. There's a great deal more to controlling sound emissions from the propulsion plant than just the screws....not that that isn't important too.

Any anomaly in the propulsion plant can cause a distinct sound signature to be transmitted to the water. Under way we spend as much time listening to ourselves as we spend listening to others.
46 posted on 08/04/2009 5:54:42 PM PDT by rottndog (WOOF!!!!!)
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To: PROSOUTH

We still need to be mindful that a submarine in the West Coast and a submarine in the East Coast can turn cities into radioactive rubble in 5 minutes. I think most people people do not know that.


47 posted on 08/04/2009 5:54:57 PM PDT by sonofstrangelove ("I don't mind being called tough, because in this racket it's tough guys who lead the survivors.)
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To: PROSOUTH

It is good to be vigilant


48 posted on 08/04/2009 5:56:19 PM PDT by sonofstrangelove ("I don't mind being called tough, because in this racket it's tough guys who lead the survivors.)
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To: Saint Reagan
PUTIN Pictures, Images and Photos
49 posted on 08/04/2009 5:56:35 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Cementjungle

I was thinking along the same lines, but more specifically I was trying to place where the obamanation is staying this month on his ongoing vaction..somewhere on the east coast....hmmmm


50 posted on 08/04/2009 5:58:17 PM PDT by bareford101 (Give me liberty, or give me death!)
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