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So what have we learned about how the two women reporters were captured by North Korea?
vanity ^ | August 5, 2009 | self

Posted on 08/05/2009 9:39:25 AM PDT by Poundstone

Amid all the adulation over Bill Clinton's "rescue" of the two reporters from North Korea, what have we learned since they were released about the circumstances under which they were captured by the North Koreans? Have the two acknowledged whether they crossed illegally into North Korea and thereby precipitated the crisis?


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chat; clinton; currenttv; eunalee; goretv; journalist; lauraling; northkorea; reporters; vanity; x42

1 posted on 08/05/2009 9:39:26 AM PDT by Poundstone
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To: Poundstone

They’re ugly and worked for a fat moonbat.


2 posted on 08/05/2009 9:40:42 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: Poundstone

If they are reporters or journalists, I am officially the Queen of Sheba. Bow down. What was Algore thinking sending two naive but well indoctrinated young women into the heart of darkness that is the North Korean border? You might almost imagine this was some kind of set-up.


3 posted on 08/05/2009 9:44:07 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Poundstone

Yes, they acknowledged they crossed illegally in order to get the amnesty/pardon.


4 posted on 08/05/2009 9:45:19 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: Poundstone

I am curious if a couple of missionaries captured while passing out Bibles would have been as high on the priority rescue list.

Still though, I’m glad the girls are safe. I hope they’ve learned that there was a reason N.K. was on Bush’s axis of evil list, that evil dictators and “going green” don’t necessarily go together.


5 posted on 08/05/2009 9:45:20 AM PDT by BuckyKat
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To: La Lydia
You might almost imagine this was some kind of set-up.

Massive free publicity for Algores little enterprise. Sucker chicks!

6 posted on 08/05/2009 9:45:40 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: sarasota

Yep, Clinton apologized for their illegal actions and was then granted the pardons.

So if they crossed into NK illegally, why is anyone mad at NK?

I know we don’t care about our borders, but that’s no reason to expect other countries to have open borders.


7 posted on 08/05/2009 9:48:36 AM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: Poundstone

“Have the two acknowledged whether they crossed illegally into North Korea and thereby precipitated the crisis?”

Yes, they did.


8 posted on 08/05/2009 9:49:24 AM PDT by edcoil (If I had 1 cent for every dollar the government saved, Bill Gates and I would be friends.)
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To: Poundstone

So what have we learned about how the two women reporters were captured by North Korea?
We learned that Bubba will fly half-way around the world for a couple of Asian chicks.


9 posted on 08/05/2009 9:50:22 AM PDT by La.daddyrabbit (Born and bred in the briar patch)
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To: edcoil

What is interesting is that Korea and Iran arrest people illegally entering their country and we give them free house, school, medicine.


10 posted on 08/05/2009 9:50:31 AM PDT by edcoil (If I had 1 cent for every dollar the government saved, Bill Gates and I would be friends.)
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To: Poundstone

I’m just glad they’re out of that hole. No doubt they mouthed the words that needed to be mouthed to get free.

Even if they did cross illegally, all that deserves is a slap on the hand, a verbal dressing down, maybe a monetary fine, and getting booted out of the country with future enterance denied. Not 15 years hard labor. That’s just stuid.


11 posted on 08/05/2009 9:50:54 AM PDT by FreedomFerret
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To: Poundstone

I’m just glad they’re out of that hole. No doubt they mouthed the words that needed to be mouthed to get free.

Even if they did cross illegally, all that deserves is a slap on the hand, a verbal dressing down, maybe a monetary fine, and getting booted out of the country with future enterance denied. Not 15 years hard labor. That’s just stuid.


12 posted on 08/05/2009 9:51:06 AM PDT by FreedomFerret
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To: Poundstone
Clue #1: Don't work for Al Gore.

Clue #2: Don't go where you KNOW it could be dangerous.

13 posted on 08/05/2009 9:51:06 AM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: ltc8k6

I agree. It was a political maneuver, plain and simple.


14 posted on 08/05/2009 9:51:23 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: Poundstone

We know very little about the incident. The media in not interested in the background to the story so it must not be supportive of the dimocRATS. It will be awhile before the truth comes out.


15 posted on 08/05/2009 9:51:23 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: edcoil

I am still wondering who this hurts (politically) more...
obama or hillary?


16 posted on 08/05/2009 9:52:01 AM PDT by OL Hickory (I AM JIM THOMPSON!!)
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To: OL Hickory

Neither, will be in the ash heap of history in a few minutes.


17 posted on 08/05/2009 9:54:23 AM PDT by edcoil (If I had 1 cent for every dollar the government saved, Bill Gates and I would be friends.)
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To: Poundstone

Ive learned that one didnt care about her child enough to be at home with her, instead of playing junior commando on the Nork border.


18 posted on 08/05/2009 9:54:30 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: Poundstone

Bill them or their employer for every cost associated with their release.

They cause the problem, and now they are the victims.


19 posted on 08/05/2009 9:54:34 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (There is nothing wrong with the Government that 552 bullets couldn't cure...)
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To: Poundstone

what i want to hear from the reporters is something along the lines of this:

“We are grateful to be released and happy to be back home, although our time was tough, it was NOTHING compared to the suffering/torture/perseceution of the hundreds of thousands of North Koreans who are in the Hard Labor Camps. we should work to have them ALL released, etc. etc.”

But, i doubt that anything like this will come out of them.


20 posted on 08/05/2009 9:54:39 AM PDT by ysoh
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To: La Lydia
What was Algore thinking sending two naive but well indoctrinated young women into the heart of darkness that is the North Korean border?

I didn't realize Al Gore sent them. Do you have a link for that?

21 posted on 08/05/2009 9:57:10 AM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: FreedomFerret

“Stupid” is American liberal chicks, thinking they can pull their BS stunts all over the world. Just like that nut Rachel Corrie.

The only one i feel sorry for is that little girl who would rather have mom at home instead of playing activist in other countries. Poor kid.


22 posted on 08/05/2009 10:00:17 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: Poundstone

Why do we have to “learn” something from every dang thing that happens?


23 posted on 08/05/2009 10:00:57 AM PDT by envisio (Foxtrot Yankee Bravo Oscar)
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To: Doe Eyes
I didn't realize Al Gore sent them. Do you have a link for that?

Click Here

24 posted on 08/05/2009 10:01:24 AM PDT by fso301
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To: Poundstone

All I want to know is what it cost the U.S. to spring these dimwits. What did we promise Kim-Jung Mentally Il? Any deal involving Clinton, Gore and Obama has got to be a loser for our country.


25 posted on 08/05/2009 10:03:15 AM PDT by Bernard Marx ("Civilizations die by suicide, not from murder" Toynbee)
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To: Doe Eyes
"Ling and Lee, journalists for former Vice President Al Gore's media venture Current TV, based in San Francisco, have become pawns in a global chess match."

http://www.cleveland.com/world/index.ssf/2009/04/seized_koreanamerican_journali.html

http://current.com/sl/welcome_home.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Current_TV

Lisa Ling said her sister called to say that she and fellow journalist Euna Lee had broken the law in North Korea when they were captured in March on the China-North Korean border. “She was very deliberate in saying they broke the law,” Lisa Ling said in a phone interview before an evening vigil planned at the state capitol. “Their only hope right now is to be pardoned.”

http://www.edmontonsun.com/news/world/2009/07/09/10082906.html

26 posted on 08/05/2009 10:04:07 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: sarasota

“Yes, they acknowledged they crossed illegally in order to get the amnesty/pardon.”

I don’t mean a “confession” under duress in order to win their freedom — I’m asking if the two reporters have shed any light on how they came to be arrested SINCE they were released.


27 posted on 08/05/2009 10:05:13 AM PDT by Poundstone
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To: ltc8k6

I know we don’t care about our borders, but that’s no reason to expect other countries to have open borders.

Sadly, LMAO...

Seems to me some of these “journalists” live in this dream world where freedom of speech and journalistic license somehow prevails, like they’re Supermen and immune to everything.

Obviously, not so. These idjits precipitated an international incident!

They deserve to get their butts chewed! (figuratively!)


28 posted on 08/05/2009 10:08:47 AM PDT by djf (The "racism" spiel is a crutch, those who unashamedly lean on it, cripples!)
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To: Bernard Marx

No kidding, Our soldiers die before the interests of the nation are sacrificed. Better that these two leftist loons stay in prison, than the US be weakened by be forced to beg or pay ransom. They knew exactly what they were doing.

Mom and pop on vactation somewhere, or other innocent Americans, ok,, but not activistas.


29 posted on 08/05/2009 10:10:14 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: Poundstone

Biographical details of US reporters in NKorea
By the Associated Press (AP) – 1 day ago
___
NAME — Laura Ling
AGE — 32
FAMILY — Married to Iain Clayton. Sister of Lisa Ling, correspondent for “The Oprah Winfrey Show,” “National Geographic Explorer” and CNN.
HOMETOWN — Born in Carmichael, California.
WORK — Vice president of Current TV’s Vanguard Journalism unit and an on-air correspondent.
EDUCATION — Graduated from University of California, Los Angeles.
CITIZENSHIP — U.S.
AWARDS — Ling won the 2009 duPont-Columbia award as a supervising producer for a report on the neo-Nazi movement in Russia.
___
NAME — Euna Lee
AGE — 36
FAMILY — Married to actor Michael Saldate. They have a 4-year-old daughter, Hana.
HOMETOWN — Born in South Korea and moved to the United States in 1995.
WORK — Editor at Current TV.
EDUCATION — Graduated from the Academy of Art University in San Francisco.
CITIZENSHIP — U.S.


30 posted on 08/05/2009 10:13:03 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Poundstone

“I don’t mean a “confession” under duress in order to win their freedom — I’m asking if the two reporters have shed any light on how they came to be arrested SINCE they were released.”

Even here at home,,whats the point in asking them? They’ll lie anyway. They are reporters for a leftist, San Fransico, Al Gore organization. Every work they say will be solely intended to advance their cause. It’s an exercise in silliness to ask them to be honest with us.


31 posted on 08/05/2009 10:13:07 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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To: Poundstone

Might as well ask them to tell the truth about global warming. They work for the biggest liar on the planet,,i don’t see how they can possibly be trusted when they say what “really happened”.


32 posted on 08/05/2009 10:16:03 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs earn the title of "man's best friend", Muslims hate dogs,,add that up.)
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What about the soldier that was taken in Afghanistan? Is Clintoon now going to take care of a real hero??


33 posted on 08/05/2009 10:16:37 AM PDT by SAMS ("I may look harmless, but I raised a U.S. MARINE!" Army Wife & Marine Mom)
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To: Poundstone

That albore sent these two young women to a most dangerous part of the world to learn about the bad behaviour of the North Koreans.

Smart move.

Smarter move. They went.


34 posted on 08/05/2009 10:16:39 AM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: Poundstone

Ya mean they didn’t get a drivers lic and free tuition? BOOO


35 posted on 08/05/2009 10:17:21 AM PDT by Waco (Libs exhale too much)
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To: La Lydia

The expenses should all be paid for by al bore, but I’ll bet anybody, that the American tax payer picked up the tab. Will they be mad about it? Sure they will. Will they do anything about it? No, because they are a big bunch of whineyass pussies that have been brainwashed into thinking if they do try anything, they’ll be branded as “trouble makers” and the police, FBI, BATF, etc. will be called in. So, just SFU and give us your money, we’ll spend it any way we choose, any time we choose. In other words.....In your face John Q Public.


36 posted on 08/05/2009 10:22:59 AM PDT by Slimey
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To: La Lydia

I meant, do you have a link that says Al Gore sent them to North Korea?


37 posted on 08/05/2009 10:27:32 AM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: Poundstone

there is a lot about this that makes no sense to me.

1. they work for Algore - hence they are not journalists, even using our State Run Media examples of journalists

2. and just what did they claim they were trying to do on the border with a hostile nation?

3. and they didn’t enlist the cooperation of the South Korean government and military as the ventured close to this heavy guarded border?

4. just what did this cost us?

5. I wish I could say I am glad they are out, but given the above unknowns, I can’t really say it...


38 posted on 08/05/2009 10:38:23 AM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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To: Doe Eyes
It has been widely reported that Algore's Current TV sent them to the China-North Korean border to do a story on refugees. Having worked for more than one news organization myself, I suspect it was their idea to begin with, but someone had to sign off on it. Did Algore personally give them marching orders to go get themselves captured by the North Koreans? I don't know. After the fact, he did offer to go get them, but apparently wasn't going to be allowed in.

From TechCruch: "Now the LA Times says a Japanese TV channel has reported that Gore would be prepared to fly to Pyongyang and secure the women’s freedom."

39 posted on 08/05/2009 10:38:31 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Poundstone

Their comments are no doubt being sanitized as we speak.


40 posted on 08/05/2009 11:15:14 AM PDT by sarasota
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Yeah, it was a setup to make Clinton look like a fool and hurt US defense policy.

A North Korean setup. Guess who's smiling?

41 posted on 08/05/2009 11:21:40 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: La Lydia

They were stupid to go there like that in the first place. This isn’t some game or Hollywood movie.


42 posted on 08/05/2009 1:07:09 PM PDT by Clock King (There's no way to fix D.C.)
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To: Clock King
You are right. Here is my screed from yesterday;

The whole episode makes me gnash my teeth. The “girls” are Algore-brand fools, not journalists. Our government allowed these young women to manipulate our foreign policy relative to a loose cannon with nuclear weapons. We played right into the hands of the NoKos. Bill Clinton, of all people, is picked to rescue two young women. The NoKos get what they want, did you see the grinning photo of their Dear Leader, and the Obamoids look like idiots — but they’re representing our country. The girls return to widespread media acclaim. There are banana republics that could have handled this better. I think I am going to be sick.

43 posted on 08/05/2009 1:42:19 PM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Poundstone
"I don’t mean a “confession” under duress in order to win their freedom — I’m asking if the two reporters have shed any light on how they came to be arrested SINCE they were released."

Not yet, but I think that it will eventually be forthcoming. Yesterday Laura's sister Lisa said that the women had done nothing wrong. When asked to expand on that statement she said that she would leave it to her sister to tell the full story.

44 posted on 08/06/2009 1:55:46 AM PDT by Mila
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To: DesertRhino

Did you see footage of her reunion with her daughter? Little girl could have cared less. Like meeting a stranger.


45 posted on 08/06/2009 2:02:15 AM PDT by Royal Wulff
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To: rigelkentaurus

What the hell were they doing? Just the two of them wandering around in the woods alone? No guides, no guards? In a foreign land running around like stray dogs? Sounds strange.


46 posted on 08/06/2009 8:44:04 AM PDT by Taffini ( Mr. Pippen and Mr. Waffles do not approve)
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To: Royal Wulff

Maybe she would have been more excited if they had rescued her nanny


47 posted on 08/06/2009 8:46:53 AM PDT by Taffini ( Mr. Pippen and Mr. Waffles do not approve)
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To: BuckyKat
I am curious if a couple of missionaries captured while passing out Bibles would have been as high on the priority rescue list.

Here's your answer:

Christian Woman Executed in North Korea: Family Sent to Prison Camp

48 posted on 08/06/2009 8:49:15 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Poundstone
I’m asking if the two reporters have shed any light on how they came to be arrested SINCE they were released.

The sister of one of them is floating the story tonight that they crossed the line for about thirty seconds. That left me with a vision of a reporter ignoring warnings and stepping into the country long enough to do a stand-up, and the NK's not taking having their warnings ignored well. Sort of the old, "I'm standing on the soil of North Korea and..." GLOM!!!!

49 posted on 08/07/2009 1:13:50 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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