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Obama's dissident database could be secret -- and permanent
The Washington Examiner ^ | 08/06/09 | Byron York

Posted on 08/06/2009 6:06:32 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o

The White House request that members of the public report anyone who is spreading "disinformation" about the proposed national health care makeover could lead to a White House database of political opponents that will be both secret and permanent, according to Republican lawyers on the Senate Judiciary Committee who are examining the plan's possible implementation.

On Monday, White House director of new media Macon Phillips posted a note on the White House web site complaining of "disinformation about health insurance reform." "These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation," Phillips wrote. "Since we can't keep track of all of them here at the White House, we're asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov."

In a letter to Obama Tuesday, Republican Sen. John Cornyn wrote that, given Phillips' request, "it is inevitable that the names, email address, IP addresses, and private speech of U.S. citizens will be reported to the White House." Cornyn warned the president that "these actions taken by your White House staff raise the specter of a data collection program."

"I can only imagine the level of justifiable outrage had your predecessor asked Americans to forward emails critical of his policies to the White House," Cornyn continued. "I urge you to cease this program immediately."

Senate Judiciary Committee lawyers studying the proposal say that although there is no absolutely settled law on the matter, the White House plan is likely not covered by the Privacy Act, which prohibits government agencies from keeping any records "describing how any individual exercises rights guaranteed by the First Amendment unless expressly authorized by statute or by the individual about whom the record is maintained." Therefore, it appears the White House can legally keep records of the emails and other communications it receives in response to Phillips' request.

Those lawyers also point out that the White House is not covered by the Freedom of Information Act, which means it would not have to release any information on the plan to members of the public who make a request.

In addition, the lawyers say the collected emails likely will be covered by the Presidential Records Act, which requires the White House to preserve and maintain its records for permanent storage in a government database. Phillips' request suggests that whatever information the White House receives on health-care reform "disinformation" will be used to further the goal of passing a national health-care makeover, which is, of course, one of the president's main policy initiatives. Such material, and whatever the White House does with it, would qualify as presidential records. Only after more than a decade would such records be publicly available.

"So the White House, whether by design or accident, has requested information from the public that will become 'records' under the Presidential Records Act, yet would be impermissible for any government to otherwise collect under the Privacy Act," writes one Judiciary Committee source. "Where were the lawyers in all of this? What is their legal basis for authorizing the collection of these records?"

Linda Douglass, head of communications for the White House Office of Health Reform, says the White House is "not compiling lists or sources of information" on opponents of health care reform. But if "fishy" information is indeed collected, as Phillips' request suggested, the laws involved mean that the information obtained by the White House could not only be secret but permanent. A dissident database, in whatever precise form it ultimately takes, could be around for a long time to come.


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KEYWORDS: agenda; bho44; bhofascism; bhohealthcare; bhotyranny; communism; democratcorruption; democrats; enemieslist; fascism; fishy; hopeychangey; informants; liberalfascism; lindadouglass; lping; marxism; obama; obamabrownshirts; obamacare; snitches; socialism; socializedmedicine; townhalls; transparency; tyranny
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THE BLOG POST IS STILL UP!

Take note of

flag@whitehouse.gov

You can use this handy e-mail address to arrange for them to be sent free information on vinyl siding, lawn furniture, low-carb dessert recipes, and a topical gel which is guaranteed to enhance their bosoms.

1 posted on 08/06/2009 6:06:33 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Mrs. Don-o
“According to 5 U.S.C. § 552a, United States agencies, including the Executive Office of the President shall, “maintain no record describing how any individual exercises rights guaranteed by the First Amendment unless expressly authorized by statute or by the individual about whom the record is maintained or unless pertinent to and within the scope of an authorized law enforcement activity.”
2 posted on 08/06/2009 6:09:32 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

excellent!


3 posted on 08/06/2009 6:10:27 AM PDT by silverleaf (If you can't be a good example, at least don't be a horrible lesson)
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bookmark


4 posted on 08/06/2009 6:10:40 AM PDT by federal
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I’m sure they have a spam filter.


5 posted on 08/06/2009 6:11:16 AM PDT by RepublitarianRoger2
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Well I see one thing 0bama has in common with Nixon, putting together a list of enemies, now I want to see him fulfill another special 'Nixon moment':
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6 posted on 08/06/2009 6:11:36 AM PDT by mkjessup (Hey Comrade 0bama? No documentation = No eligibility, ok? Now GTF out of OUR White House!!!)
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To: CodeToad
The alleged president oversees a criminal organization.
7 posted on 08/06/2009 6:13:02 AM PDT by boomop1
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Linda Douglass, head of communications for the White House Office of Health Reform, says the White House is "not compiling lists or sources of information" on opponents of health care reform.

This woman has proved this week, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that she is dishonest. So be warned. If she says they're not compiling lists, they are compiling lists.

8 posted on 08/06/2009 6:13:29 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: Mrs. Don-o

And of course no one would ever use this new WH “service” to get back at former spouses or settle neighborhood or workplace disputes.

/s


9 posted on 08/06/2009 6:14:27 AM PDT by Let's Roll (Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their government funding!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Of course, if one just happened to report a member of ACORN, that would be a terrible injustice. /s


10 posted on 08/06/2009 6:14:29 AM PDT by LOC1
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I’m reporting dead irish poets :)


11 posted on 08/06/2009 6:14:45 AM PDT by MissDairyGoodnessVT ("Economy is the method by which we prepare today to afford the improvements of tomorrow"C.Coolidge)
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To: mkjessup

Dick Nixon’s words: “I am not a crook”


12 posted on 08/06/2009 6:16:15 AM PDT by MissDairyGoodnessVT ("Economy is the method by which we prepare today to afford the improvements of tomorrow"C.Coolidge)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

The obamedia doesn’t seem to think this rises to the level of checking library usage. That was an infringement on people’s Rights, this is due diligence.

Pray for America


13 posted on 08/06/2009 6:17:40 AM PDT by bray (The messiah has no robe)
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To: CodeToad
Let me know how enforcing that actually works out.
14 posted on 08/06/2009 6:18:30 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit The law will be followed, dammit!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I am not a mob

Speak up America, while you still can.

Go ahead report me to flag@whitehouse.gov

15 posted on 08/06/2009 6:18:56 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: cbkaty; Avocado; Army Air Corps; RebelTXRose; MIchaelTArchangel; spectre; ...

Ping-a-ling.

And while you’re at it, those Toll-free Capitol switchboard numbers are:

800-828-0498

877-762-8762


16 posted on 08/06/2009 6:18:57 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (He who laughs last, thinks slowest.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
And can we use the Freedom of Information Act and sue to force them to release their enemies list?
17 posted on 08/06/2009 6:19:22 AM PDT by nomad
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To: CodeToad

the MOST corrupt administration EVER could hardly
care about 5 USC 552. they have already torn up the
Constitution.


18 posted on 08/06/2009 6:20:27 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Those who go below the surface do so at their peril" - Oscar Wilde)
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To: mware
One of Rockwell's best in my opinion. Obama would have people like this guy arrested.
19 posted on 08/06/2009 6:21:46 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I agree with Rick..)
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To: CodeToad

The article talks about 5,552a (Privacy Act) - says it likely does not apply despite Red State’s addition of “including the Executive Office of the President” to the quote.


20 posted on 08/06/2009 6:23:22 AM PDT by franklog
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